jakee 1,497 #2776 December 22, 2024 (edited) 3 hours ago, turtlespeed said: You think that soley based on your bias, TDS, closed mind, and hatred for Trump. The media has told you to. You think Trump didn't give the Taliban a year to plan for the withdrawal, didn't stop engaging them with US troops and didn't halt airstrikes against them, giving them the time and space to rebuild their strength? Who the hell told you that? Quote You think it's rediculous. I think it's plausible. Which one of us is considering both possibilities? Sure as hell not you. You haven't said your theory is plausible, you've been saying it's absolutely definitely true. This whole 'open minded' thing is just your get out when you're unable to defend your position anymore. Edited December 22, 2024 by jakee Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 801 #2777 December 22, 2024 On 12/21/2024 at 3:20 PM, jaybird18c said: Turtle…the democrats “cannot” be responsible. Reminds me of Hillary Clinton and Benghazi. The embassy she repeatedly begged republicans fund the defense of? That they repeatedly refuse to fund? That was attacked as feared?? Totally her fault for asking for funds. American ignorance still floors me, yet here we are. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIGUN 1,317 #2778 December 22, 2024 55 minutes ago, normiss said: The embassy she repeatedly begged republicans fund the defense of? The truth is, it is a bipartisan failure, repeated through years of both Republican and Democratic control of Congress. In 2010, Democrats cut $142 million from the Administration's requests for State Department funding. (see Author) Bottom line - "We" failed. https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2013/05/the-real-benghazi-scandal/275950/ For those who don't know how to disable a paywall; copy/paste the url into a Brave Browser. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,523 #2779 December 23, 2024 14 hours ago, kallend said: Funny how this "secret plan" materialized in hindsight, and comes from a Trump crony/apologist. Kool Aid for the gullible. Not as funny as the fact that Trumpty Dumpty bragged that he had put in place a withdrawl plan for Afghanistan that there was no way for Biden to change. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,995 #2780 December 23, 2024 23 minutes ago, wolfriverjoe said: Not as funny as the fact that Trumpty Dumpty bragged that he had put in place a withdrawl plan for Afghanistan that there was no way for Biden to change. "Trump never said that!" "OK he said that but what he really meant was X." "Biden did it wrong." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,720 #2781 December 23, 2024 Just now, billvon said: "Trump never said that!" "OK he said that but what he really meant was X." "Biden did it wrong." Out of curiosity, is there a date certain for the Speakers Corner paywall to start? Asking for gowlerk. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #2782 December 23, 2024 On 12/20/2024 at 3:20 PM, turtlespeed said: Easy - His plan was to continue the negotiations into his second presidency. It was kind of a long game. With Trumps support, he was pressuring the president of Afghanistan to continue to leave troops in country for anti terrorism defense. Biden simply gave up and ran. From what I've read, the plan was a ruse against the taliban. A much deserved ruse. You simply cannot trust them like biden tried to again, and lost. Jesus Christ you are delusional. Cognitive dissonance hard at work here. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #2783 December 23, 2024 On 12/20/2024 at 3:20 PM, turtlespeed said: Easy - His plan was to continue the negotiations into his second presidency. It was kind of a long game. With Trumps support, he was pressuring the president of Afghanistan to continue to leave troops in country for anti terrorism defense. Biden simply gave up and ran. From what I've read, the plan was a ruse against the taliban. A much deserved ruse. You simply cannot trust them like biden tried to again, and lost. Jesus Christ you are delusional. Cognitive dissonance hard at work here. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #2784 December 23, 2024 (edited) On 12/21/2024 at 10:53 AM, turtlespeed said: Thank you for proving my closed mind theory. But i am accepting apologies for calling me a liar, when you said I didn't have the article, that you were going to dismiss, just like you did.!! After it all went to shit a Trump sycophant came on and said, that's not what we meant to do. Turtle: see they are so smart, I love Trump. Edited December 23, 2024 by SkyDekker Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 220 #2785 December 23, 2024 On 12/22/2024 at 2:54 PM, jakee said: Dude, you couldn't even conceive that a former Trump cabinet member who works for the Heritage Foundation could have a reason to embellish Trump's record! That's how closed minded you are I consider it a possibility. Can YOU consider that its also possible that that he didn't? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 220 #2786 December 23, 2024 (edited) On 12/22/2024 at 12:05 PM, JoeWeber said: Alrighty, then, we wouldn't want you to lose your jobs. In the meantime, for the sake of honesty you might precede any authoritative posts on business or employment practices with the statement: I can't claim any experience on this topic but I think...... But I can. I just won't. I can tell you that we do about 1.5 Billion in revenue every year. Edited December 23, 2024 by turtlespeed Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 220 #2787 December 23, 2024 20 hours ago, wolfriverjoe said: Not as funny as the fact that Trumpty Dumpty bragged that he had put in place a withdrawl plan for Afghanistan that there was no way for Biden to change. No way? Maybe he could just do like he did the Prosecutor in Ukraine. Withold and give them a time limit. There's always a way if you want to bad enough. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,720 #2788 December 23, 2024 Just now, turtlespeed said: But I can. I just won't. I can tell you that we do about 1.5 Billion in revenue every year. We, Ke-mo Sa-be? You could be on the assembly line at Toys-R-Us and make the same claim. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,497 #2789 December 23, 2024 (edited) 12 minutes ago, turtlespeed said: I consider it a possibility. No, I mean you literally couldn't conceive it. You couldn't think of a single reason why a political operative wouldn't be telling the absolute truth about his own team. You get how closed minded that is - right? You don't even think it's a possibility that Trump did what he actually did - halt military operations and and airstrikes against the Taliban a year ahead of the withdrawal. You're so closed minded you're blaming that on the Trump hating media Edited December 23, 2024 by jakee Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 220 #2790 December 23, 2024 6 hours ago, SkyDekker said: Jesus Christ you are delusional. Cognitive dissonance hard at work here. No more delusional than you. Biden is the one with the CD. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 220 #2791 December 23, 2024 6 hours ago, SkyDekker said: After it all went to shit a Trump sycophant came on and said, that's not what we meant to do. Turtle: see they are so smart, I love Trump. That makes one of us. But at least he's not Biden, or Harris. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaybird18c 24 #2792 December 23, 2024 6 hours ago, SkyDekker said: I love Trump. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 220 #2793 December 23, 2024 21 minutes ago, JoeWeber said: We, Ke-mo Sa-be? You could be on the assembly line at Toys-R-Us and make the same claim. You believe whatever your little heart desires. It matters not to me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #2794 December 23, 2024 20 minutes ago, jaybird18c said: for a supposedly straight guy you are very obsessed with men giving you oral sex. I don't judge, you don't have to hide your sexuality around me. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #2795 December 23, 2024 19 minutes ago, turtlespeed said: You believe whatever your little heart desires. It matters not to me. Didn't matter to your boy Billy either, until he blew is whole family away. Another sacrifice to the 2nd Amendment. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaybird18c 24 #2796 December 23, 2024 6 minutes ago, SkyDekker said: Didn't matter to your boy Billy either, until he blew is whole family away. Another sacrifice to the 2nd Amendment. I’ll protect myself. You go ahead and rely on the government to protect you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #2797 December 23, 2024 1 minute ago, jaybird18c said: I’ll protect myself. You go ahead and rely on the government to protect you. Billy said the same thing. Now Billy, his wife and his kids are dead. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaybird18c 24 #2798 December 23, 2024 Just now, SkyDekker said: Billy said the same thing. Now Billy, his wife and his kids are dead. And the 2nd Amendment is still intact for law abiding citizens. Prosecute the offenders. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #2799 December 23, 2024 1 minute ago, jaybird18c said: And the 2nd Amendment is still intact for law abiding citizens. Prosecute the offenders. There wasn't anything left to prosecute...Billy did it all himself. His kids are 2 of the many that are sacrificed at the altar of the 2nd Amendment. So much for that protecting of their freedom and liberty you like to talk about. As a country you have fundamentally failed to do so. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaybird18c 24 #2800 December 23, 2024 (edited) 2 minutes ago, SkyDekker said: There wasn't anything left to prosecute...Billy did it all himself. His kids are 2 of the many that are sacrificed at the altar of the 2nd Amendment. So much for that protecting of their freedom and liberty you like to talk about. As a country you have fundamentally failed to do so. I’ll quote this again…because it’s true. “Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.” - Ben Franklin I’ll add. You don’t deserve and you won’t get liberty or safety. No one is coming to save you. You’d better protect yourself. Edited December 23, 2024 by jaybird18c Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites