Woke is a Joke

[jakee 1,489]

On 12/22/2024 at 5:03 PM, turtlespeed said:

The difference here is you cannot see the other side of that position.

It simply cannot exist in your world.

“How can you possibly KNOW that as a fact?”

[nigel99 471]

6 hours ago, wmw999 said:

And that was told me by a woman who was on the same boat as us scuba diving a couple of weeks ago. She wore full make up and false eyelashes for scuba. Consider the source.

Wendy P.

In March I did a balloon jump, there were 3 of us with over 500 jumps, the others were a group of young instagram models/influencers. It was incredible to see the effort put into makeup and getting the right shots, their gear and skydive safety was WAY down the list of priorities. 

The scuba gear was possibly just the prop for her instagram.

[turtlespeed 220]

On 12/24/2024 at 3:22 PM, jakee said:

“How can you possibly KNOW that as a fact?”

Because I have pattern recognition ability in my mental arsenal.

I mean - you realise your posts are visible, right?

 

Edited December 27, 2024 by turtlespeed

[jakee 1,489]

15 minutes ago, turtlespeed said:

Because I have pattern recognition ability in my mental arsenal.

I mean - you realise your posts are visible, right?

So you do indeed genuinely believe you are special, and that you alone are allowed to make judgements that you ridicule when others do the same. 

I mean - you realise I was quoting you, right?

[turtlespeed 220]

14 minutes ago, jakee said:

So you do indeed genuinely believe you are special, and that you alone are allowed to make judgements that you ridicule when others do the same. 

I mean - you realise I was quoting you, right?

And you realize I was quoting you, right?

I am unique, just like everyone else!

Edited December 27, 2024 by turtlespeed

[jakee 1,489]

6 minutes ago, turtlespeed said:

And you realize I was quoting you, right?

Sure - but it doesn’t make any difference. You’re still claiming to have a special ability you won’t accept that anyone else possesses. You are capable of making judgements about others based on what they’ve written but no one else can make judgements about you. 
 

It’s so similar to how you went wrong with your covid bleach fiasco. I mean just imagine being the one to guy to fervently defend Trump’s comments on that and to think you’re somehow good at interpreting things at the same time. 

[turtlespeed 220]

25 minutes ago, jakee said:

Sure - but it doesn’t make any difference. You’re still claiming to have a special ability you won’t accept that anyone else possesses. You are capable of making judgements about others based on what they’ve written but no one else can make judgements about you. 
 

It’s so similar to how you went wrong with your covid bleach fiasco. I mean just imagine being the one to guy to fervently defend Trump’s comments on that and to think you’re somehow good at interpreting things at the same time. 

Dude, that assumption is all in your head. Your record speaks for it's self.

You keep saying that about Bleach - but its YOUR mind that can't do the mental gymnastics it is so good performing when Biden is speaking, but just can't quite let your bias go long enough to try to do the same thing with Trump.

[jakee 1,489]

9 minutes ago, turtlespeed said:

Dude, that assumption is all in your head. Your record speaks for it's self.

No, it’s right here in black and white. Dude, you realise your posts are still visible, right? YOU make concrete judgements about other people, constantly. YOU challenge other people to prove their judgements are absolute fact. You think that you alone possess the ability to judge they way people think from what they wrote. Just like your hollow assertion that you alone have an open mind when you are yet to take a single backward step from any assertion, no matter how stupid. 
 

12 minutes ago, turtlespeed said:

You keep saying that about Bleach - but its YOUR mind that can't do the mental gymnastics 

You’re right - only you were capable of the mental gymnastics needed to defend Trump’s bleach comments. Only you were so blinded by absolute MAGA loyalty to even think to try. I mean seriously, just think what it took to be that guy, to try to justify that idiotic insanity. I mean, just wow, right?

[turtlespeed 220]

21 minutes ago, jakee said:

You’re right - only you were capable of the mental gymnastics needed to defend Trump’s bleach comments. Only you were so blinded by absolute MAGA loyalty to even think to try. I mean seriously, just think what it took to be that guy, to try to justify that idiotic insanity. I mean, just wow, right?

Tell me the difference then.  

I appreciate the agreement.

Yeah - it is WOW.  Why did it take you so long to finally admit it?

Its not blind loyalty to maga, its more about taking a position and defending it.

Edited December 27, 2024 by turtlespeed

[jakee 1,489]

1 hour ago, turtlespeed said:

Tell me the difference then. 

Between you staunchly defending Trump’s idiotic and insane covid bleach comments and everyone else who didn’t? That’s quite self evident, isn’t it?

1 hour ago, turtlespeed said:

Its not blind loyalty to maga, its more about taking a position and defending it.

Ok, so that’s what you do here - you take a position and even if it’s as batshit crazy as sticking up for Trump’s covid bleach comments then that is the position you will continue to defend no matter what. 

So… explain again how we can tell that you’re the only open minded person here? You’re still not admitting you were wrong about anything you said despite it being the stupidest, funniest thing that I can remember on this site, so where exactly is the capacity to reflect that you’re oh so proud of?

[airdvr 210]

On 12/20/2024 at 10:15 AM, kallend said:

Nonsense.  Trump cut and ran.  Biden was left with the mess.

So you think we should have stayed?  Bottom line on this one is I'm glad we're out of that quagmire.  I don't care who did the cut and run.

[jaybird18c 24]

5 minutes ago, airdvr said:

So you think we should have stayed?  Bottom line on this one is I'm glad we're out of that quagmire.  I don't care who did the cut and run.

I’m glad we’re out too. I thought we should have left over a decade ago. However, there was no need to “cut and run.” 

[kallend 2,026]

10 minutes ago, airdvr said:

So you think we should have stayed?  Bottom line on this one is I'm glad we're out of that quagmire.  I don't care who did the cut and run.

Since we're talking hindsight, I think we shouldn't have been there in the first place. Or once we were there, we shouldn't have taken our eyes off the ball and invaded Iraq under false pretenses before finishing the job in Afghanistan.

Edited December 27, 2024 by kallend

[jaybird18c 24]

1 minute ago, kallend said:

Since we're talking hindsight, I think we shouldn't have been there in the first place. Or once we were there, we shouldn't have taken our eyes off the ball and invaded Iraq under false pretenses before finishing the job in Afghanistan.

I certainly think we should have been there in the first place. However, I agree with you that we shouldn’t have “taken our eyes off the ball.” Then again, “the ball” ended up in Pakistan. I’m glad we took him out there. But Iraq…I’m gonna have to agree with you.

[turtlespeed 220]

3 hours ago, jakee said:

Ok, so that’s what you do here -

----Sometimes.  It's entertaining.  There is always a note of seriousness to it, but not always as much as you demand.

So… explain again how we can tell that you’re the only open minded person here? 

I am nowhere near the only open minded person here.

Im just the only one that posts against you.

[turtlespeed 220]

2 hours ago, jaybird18c said:

I certainly think we should have been there in the first place. However, I agree with you that we shouldn’t have “taken our eyes off the ball.” Then again, “the ball” ended up in Pakistan. I’m glad we took him out there. But Iraq…I’m gonna have to agree with you.

I have come to the understanding that Afghanistan was never going to be "winable".

I also understand, or rather, believe that even though there were some horrible things going on in Iraq, the majority of that was a resource battle.  I think the issues were grown and encouraged.

 

[turtlespeed 220]

2 hours ago, airdvr said:

So you think we should have stayed?  Bottom line on this one is I'm glad we're out of that quagmire.  I don't care who did the cut and run.

I believe that the withdrawl should have been better managed and taken a LOT more seriously.

[billvon 2,990]

Conservatives: Biden should be IMPEACHED for his bungled dealings on the pullout from Afghanistan!  It's a CRIME!

(they learn that Trump made the deal with the Taliban, including a provision that they would be allowed to kill US troops if the deal is not carried out)

Conservatives: Well, I'm glad we're out, I don't really care who did what.

[jakee 1,489]

2 hours ago, turtlespeed said:

Im just the only one that posts against you.

So of all the right wingers here who disgaree with me, you are the only one with an open mind? All of your fellow conservatives are closed minded sheep? Odd that you espouse the same positions and the same arguments that they do, no? I'd imagine that'd make an open minded person pause and think for a while.

And again, what evidence is there that you have an open mind? Saying "I'm open minded" while never taking a backward step from any position, no matter how absurd, doesn't really cut it. But if we give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you really have realised you're wrong about this, as you were wrong about Trump's insane covid bleach suggestions, you're just not admitting it... why do you believe that you're such a unique and special flower that you're the only one doing this? When you've admitted that you're not remotely telling the truth about your own positions, why assume that everyone else has no thoughts other than the ones they write down?

[tkhayes 348]

58 minutes ago, jakee said:

So of all the right wingers here who disgaree with me, you are the only one with an open mind? All of your fellow conservatives are closed minded sheep? Odd that you espouse the same positions and the same arguments that they do, no? I'd imagine that'd make an open minded person pause and think for a while.

And again, what evidence is there that you have an open mind? Saying "I'm open minded" while never taking a backward step from any position, no matter how absurd, doesn't really cut it. But if we give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you really have realised you're wrong about this, as you were wrong about Trump's insane covid bleach suggestions, you're just not admitting it... why do you believe that you're such a unique and special flower that you're the only one doing this? When you've admitted that you're not remotely telling the truth about your own positions, why assume that everyone else has no thoughts other than the ones they write down?

I have an open mind, and luckily I am right all of the time as well

[BIGUN 1,306]

10 hours ago, tkhayes said:

I have an open mind, and luckily I am right all of the time as well

Left. You are left all of the time as well.  :)

[turtlespeed 220]

18 hours ago, jakee said:

So of all the right wingers here who disgaree with me, you are the only one with an open mind? All of your fellow conservatives are closed minded sheep? Odd that you espouse the same positions and the same arguments that they do, no? I'd imagine that'd make an open minded person pause and think for a while.

And again, what evidence is there that you have an open mind? Saying "I'm open minded" while never taking a backward step from any position, no matter how absurd, doesn't really cut it. But if we give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you really have realised you're wrong about this, as you were wrong about Trump's insane covid bleach suggestions, you're just not admitting it... why do you believe that you're such a unique and special flower that you're the only one doing this? When you've admitted that you're not remotely telling the truth about your own positions, why assume that everyone else has no thoughts other than the ones they write down?

All?  Umm - Yeah, ALL that are posting here.

This place devolved into an extreme left echo chamber.

That's one reason why so many departed.  

[turtlespeed 220]

18 hours ago, jakee said:

while never taking a backward step from any position, no matter how absurd, doesn't really cut it. 

Thats amusing.  Can you cite even one instance where you changed your mind, and allowed that the conservatives were correct?

[jakee 1,489]

1 hour ago, turtlespeed said:

All?  Umm - Yeah, ALL that are posting here.

So just to be clear - you're calling Jay closed minded? You're calling Brent closed minded? You're calling Bigun closed minded? ALL the right wingers here who disagree with me except you are closed minded... even though you largely share the same positions and arguments as them? Do you really think that's likely?

Anyway, when do you think you've demonstrated openmindedness here? You've never even admitted that Trump was being a dangerous moron over his covid bleach comments that you so staunchly defended. It should be the easiest thing possible to admit for an openminded person, why not try walking the walk for once before this place is gone?

[jakee 1,489]

1 hour ago, turtlespeed said:

Thats amusing.  Can you cite even one instance where you changed your mind, and allowed that the conservatives were correct?

You first, since you actually have a claim that you need to back up.

Unless you can provide any instance of me saying I'm the only openminded person here (as you have repeatedly just done) but I don't think you can.