billvon 2,990 #2651 December 21, 2024 14 minutes ago, turtlespeed said: You can find it if you want to. You can just admit that you can't support what you said. Easier that way. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tkhayes 348 #2652 December 21, 2024 18 minutes ago, turtlespeed said: You can look for yourself. You understand how lame a statement that is right? You’re too lazy to back up your own claims? either you have something to back up your claims (but seemingly cannot find it) or you have nothing to back up your claims Go ahead. Pick one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 220 #2653 December 21, 2024 Just now, tkhayes said: You understand how lame a statement that is right? You’re too lazy to back up your own claims? either you have something to back up your claims (but seemingly cannot find it) or you have nothing to back up your claims Go ahead. Pick one. It is neither - but what's the use? Unless you (y'all) will accept it as even a possibility, why bother? Or are you telling me the posters here with TDS have suddenly grown an open mind? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaybird18c 24 #2654 December 21, 2024 8 minutes ago, tkhayes said: You understand how lame a statement that is right? You’re too lazy to back up your own claims? either you have something to back up your claims (but seemingly cannot find it) or you have nothing to back up your claims Go ahead. Pick one. I haven’t read any of this, but looking it up for yourself is in fact a third option. You may see it as lame…but still… Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,489 #2655 December 21, 2024 19 minutes ago, turtlespeed said: You can look for yourself. Hint - it wasnt Trump saying anything. So I need to look for someone saying something about Afghanistan and the only hint is that it wasn’t Trump? Yeah, no. How about stop playing stupid games to cover up your own ignorance? Think you can manage that just once in the history of this site? Say what you mean, link what you think you have. 22 minutes ago, turtlespeed said: Trump was working the plan he had in place. What kind of plan was it to leave the Afghan defence forces unsupported to suffer terrible casualties, and allow a massive Taliban resurgence during 2020? Trump’s plan was exactly he said it was during his campaign, during his Presidency, and during his second campaign - leave foreign wars alone and damn the consequences. By the time Biden got in it would have taken another troop surge just to get back to the stability the country had in 2019, and all the while Trump would have been blasting the war mongering democrats for ignoring his deal and dragging the US back into the quagmire, and you know it. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 220 #2656 December 21, 2024 1 minute ago, jakee said: and you know it. No - I don't know that, and neither do you. You suspect that, and your suspicions are your reality. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,489 #2657 December 21, 2024 (edited) 14 minutes ago, turtlespeed said: It is neither - but what's the use? Unless you (y'all) will accept it as even a possibility, why bother? You know how painfully transparent it is that you’re just trying to cover up that you’re a lying fantasist, right? If there was no point, you wouldn’t have posted anything on the topic at all, let alone continuing to post even after getting hammered for your ignorance and partisan denial of reality. But you are still posting, because you care about not being seen to be totally wrong. Which all means it’s pretty obvious that if you had something, you’d say what it was. But you obviously don’t, because you’re making it all up. Edited December 21, 2024 by jakee 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,489 #2658 December 21, 2024 9 minutes ago, jaybird18c said: I haven’t read any of this, but looking it up for yourself is in fact a third option. You may see it as lame…but still… Look what up? Someone (we don’t know who) saying something (we don’t know what) about Trump’s Afghanistan plan? You do realise AI still isn’t good enough to answer the question ‘what the fuck is Turtle actually talking about’ right? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 220 #2659 December 21, 2024 7 minutes ago, jakee said: You know how painfully transparent it is that you’re just trying to cover up that you’re a lying fantasist, right? If there was no point, you wouldn’t have posted anything on the topic at all, let alone continuing to post even after getting hammered for your ignorance and partisan denial of reality. But you are still posting, because you care about not being seen to be totally wrong. Which all means it’s pretty obvious that if you had something, you’d say what it was. But you obviously don’t, because you’re making it all up. Your assumptions are wrong again. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaybird18c 24 #2660 December 21, 2024 3 minutes ago, jakee said: Look what up? Someone (we don’t know who) saying something (we don’t know what) about Trump’s Afghanistan plan? You do realise AI still isn’t good enough to answer the question ‘what the fuck is Turtle actually talking about’ right? I don’t know… I just popped in and decided to post something useless. :) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 220 #2661 December 21, 2024 (edited) 7 minutes ago, jakee said: Look what up? Someone (we don’t know who) saying something (we don’t know what) about Trump’s Afghanistan plan? You do realise AI still isn’t good enough to answer the question ‘what the fuck is Turtle actually talking about’ right? Start with who you think may have access to that information. Then do a search with that position as part of the search like I did. Its not hard. It was the first link that came up when I was trying to retrieve the article. Edited December 21, 2024 by turtlespeed Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,489 #2662 December 21, 2024 2 minutes ago, turtlespeed said: Your assumptions are wrong again. What assumptions? I’m just saying what we can all see to be true - you’re just lying to cover your ignorance and can’t help digging a deeper hole. To recap, when said Biden ignored and reneged on Trump’s withdrawal agreement. When asked how exactly that was the case you said he ignores it by following it and reneged on it by not reneging on it the way Trump would have done. If you’ve got anything to help make sense of that, you really should link it. I mean, I know you don’t and you know you don’t, but still. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,489 #2663 December 21, 2024 2 minutes ago, turtlespeed said: Start with who you think may have access to that information. “Hey Siri, do you know what the fuck Turtle is that asking about?” Yeah sorry dude, Siri says you’re full of shit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 220 #2664 December 21, 2024 Just now, jakee said: What assumptions? I’m just saying what we can all see to be true - you’re just lying to cover your ignorance and can’t help digging a deeper hole. To recap, when said Biden ignored and reneged on Trump’s withdrawal agreement. When asked how exactly that was the case you said he ignores it by following it and reneged on it by not reneging on it the way Trump would have done. If you’ve got anything to help make sense of that, you really should link it. I mean, I know you don’t and you know you don’t, but still. Well to start with, your assumption that what I am saying is not true, and that I'm lying, and that you can see it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 220 #2665 December 21, 2024 1 minute ago, jakee said: “Hey Siri, do you know what the fuck Turtle is that asking about?” Yeah sorry dude, Siri says you’re full of shit. So limited. Think inside the box. It's really not difficult. I've given you the how - just use your noggin and figure it out. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaybird18c 24 #2666 December 21, 2024 2 minutes ago, turtlespeed said: Well to start with, your assumption that what I am saying is not true, and that I'm lying, and that you can see it. I’m just sitting over here moving at turtle speed. :) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 220 #2667 December 21, 2024 4 minutes ago, jakee said: OK - Here's another clue for the clueless: What position (High Ranking) involves military and would have enough clearance to have strategy meetings with a president? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,489 #2668 December 21, 2024 5 minutes ago, turtlespeed said: Well to start with, your assumption that what I am saying is not true, and that I'm lying, and that you can see it. Obviously you’re going to lie about the fact that you’re lying. That’s just taken for granted. You’ve never seen a hole you didn’t want to dig deeper. Like the bleach and the UV. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 220 #2669 December 21, 2024 Just now, jakee said: Obviously you’re going to lie about the fact that you’re lying. That’s just taken for granted. You’ve never seen a hole you didn’t want to dig deeper. Like the bleach and the UV. Again. I ask you about that - what were the words he actually used. Not your perception of them. But lets make this a side topic. Its fun watching you to try to bully me into posting something you refuse to try to look for. Maybe you could try asking nicely. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,489 #2670 December 21, 2024 3 minutes ago, turtlespeed said: OK - Here's another clue for the clueless: What position (High Ranking) involves military and would have enough clearance to have strategy meetings with a president? How about the guy in command of the military in Afghanistan talking on Fox? Asked if Trump’s Doha agreement, the U.S.-Taliban withdrawal deal, was responsible for the collapse of the Afghan government, McKenzie offered his most pointed criticism of both commanders in chief. “The president of the United States owns the final responsibility for these actions. I believe we had two presidents of the United States that wanted to exit Afghanistan, and they might not have had anything else in common, but they shared that common view,” he said. “So we had a continuity of objective across two administrations that really allowed the events that occurred to occur in the manner that they did.” See how full of shit you are? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,489 #2671 December 21, 2024 1 minute ago, turtlespeed said: Maybe you could try asking nicely. Please could you link to what you’re talking about? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaybird18c 24 #2672 December 21, 2024 Go Turtle! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 220 #2673 December 21, 2024 (edited) 1 minute ago, jakee said: Please could you link to what you’re talking about? Yes, I could. Would you like me to? Edited December 21, 2024 by turtlespeed Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 220 #2674 December 21, 2024 2 minutes ago, jakee said: Please could you link to what you’re talking about? Here. Now, please, do as you will and refuse the possibility and the credentials. You know you will. You don't have a choice. Its in your closed mind. https://www.defenseone.com/policy/2021/08/trumps-pledge-exit-afghanistan-was-ruse-his-final-secdef-says/184660/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 220 #2675 December 21, 2024 That search was so incredibly difficult. "Trump Sec Def on Afghanistan" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites