Woke is a Joke

[richravizza 28]

5 minutes ago, tkhayes said:

 

 In the rejection of the values of Modernism, and acceptance of postmodernism ,the ideology of woke are a mirror image and culmination of the radical postmodernism movement. 

Here's an unbiased take.

 

The acceptance of contradiction. Trump is Hitler. LOL

 

 

[richravizza 28]

On 8/21/2024 at 5:49 PM, richravizza said:

Also have no idea how ANY of those decisions affect me, my family, my life, your life, anyone's life, any family.... and so on.... especially when it is no one's fucking business, except those involved.

Look TK, I just did a phd iddy... jared ravizza style LOL

 Just because they don't affect you and your's.Please don't assume there are no consequences to an affirmation model. Since PhD's are your thing Merriam may help.

 

 

Edited October 2, 2024 by richravizza

[wmw999 2,514]

You'd probably be a lot more interesting if you did your own talking. Me, I can't be bothered to listen to those videos. It takes a few seconds to a minute or two for a post; compared with 5+ minutes for a carefully-guided story/opinion piece. 

Wendy P.

[tkhayes 348]

55 minutes ago, richravizza said:

 In the rejection of the values of Modernism, and acceptance of postmodernism ,the ideology of woke are a mirror image and culmination of the radical postmodernism movement. 

Here's an unbiased take.

 

The acceptance of contradiction. Trump is Hitler. LOL

 

 

Yeah I am not interested in opinions on a different subject, an opinion piece on what you think 'woke' is and that you found something that supports your claim.  I can show you text from legal cases where government attorneys in Florida could not define the term 'woke', which I would put more weight on than a youtube video

It's a valid question.... if there is no definition of woke as an ideology from somewhere semi-reputable that we can all agree on, then why would you be using it as a argument?  There is evidence and there there is good evidence and then there is flimsy evidence.

Edited October 2, 2024 by tkhayes

[richravizza 28]

On 9/6/2024 at 4:34 PM, ryoder said:

[Gasp!] That's socialism!

Who could turn down a Free ride, ALL Aboard ....First stop Harvard!! 

some gain some loss 

[billvon 3,058]

53 minutes ago, richravizza said:

 The acceptance of contradiction. 

"The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exist.” - Hannah Arendt

Republicans are working to turn their true believers into such ideal subjects. 

Illegal Haitian immigrants in Springfield are eating the dogs!  They're eating the cats!  OK they're not illegal immigrants.  OK they're not in Springfield.  OK they're not eating the dogs.  OK so we created that story and it's not real.  But the important part is that you BELIEVE the underlying message, even if it's based on a lie.  Sure, it's fiction, but it's really fact!  Sort of.  The underlying message is real.

Trump really isn't a rapist, even though two separate juries found that he lied when he said he didn't rape E Jean Carroll.  Again, you just have to blur the distinction between fact and fiction a bit, and he's in the clear.

As Kellyanne Conway explained, republicans use alternative facts, not real facts.  Because they are just as good, and they say exactly what republican leaders want them to say.  Again, what's important is what you believe, not what is true.

A staffer in the GWB administration came right out and admitted this.  The staffer said that journalists were "in what we call the reality-based community . .  people who believe that solutions emerge from your judicious study of discernible reality.  That's not the way the world really works anymore.  We're an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you're studying that reality—judiciously, as you will—we'll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that's how things will sort out. We're history's actors...and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do."

Republicans are no longer in "the reality based community" and they mock people who are.  They create their own alternative-fact reality, and expect supporters to believe it.  And when you get people used to believing untruths, the distinction between fact and fiction goes away, and there is only loyalty to the one person who promises to save them from the fake horrors of the world around them.

[richravizza 28]

10 minutes ago, tkhayes said:

Yeah I am not interested in opinions on a different subject, an opinion piece on what you think 'woke' is and that you found something that supports your claim.  I can show you text from legal cases where government attorneys in Florida could not define the term 'woke', which I would put more weight on than a youtube video

It's a valid question.... if there is no definition of woke as an ideology from somewhere semi-reputable that we can all agree on, then why would you be using it as a argument?  There is evidence and there there is good evidence and then there is flimsy evidence.

OK, I see the game you want to play,reminds me of denial. So woke is everywhere and nowhere all at once.A perfect analogy of the woke worldview of racism and the ie woke, anti racism scheme.  I'll agree it's a Contradiction.

 Do you think AB 1955 is woke?

Funny lady

[jakee 1,556]

2 hours ago, richravizza said:

 In the rejection of the values of Modernism, and acceptance of postmodernism ,the ideology of woke are a mirror image and culmination of the radical postmodernism movement. 

Define any single one of those words?

Actually, let me guess - What is postmodernism? Well, postmodernism is... the underpinning of woke! And woke is the end of postmodernism! So now we all know exactly what that's about.

[billvon 3,058]

11 minutes ago, jakee said:

Define any single one of those words?

He can't, other than "that which is bad."

It's a common problem.  Consider the sad case of Bethany Mandel, an author who wrote a book on the evil woke indoctrination that is going on in this country.  During an interview to promote her book, Mandel claimed that "only seven percent of Americans consider themselves very liberal, and probably fewer consider themselves woke."

The interviewer then asked a simple question.  "What does that mean to you?  Would you mind defining 'woke' because this has come up a couple times, and I just want to make sure we are on the same page."

Now remember, this is a conservative who wrote an entire BOOK about woke. 

Her answer:

"So  . . . I mean . . . woke is . . .sort of . . .  the idea that . . .uh . . .I . . .this is going to be one of those moments that goes viral . . .I mean, woke is something that is very hard to define, I spent an entire chapter defining it . . . it is sort of the understanding that we need to retotal . . totally reimagine and rean . .  re . . . reduce society in order to create hierarchies of oppression . . . um . . . sorry . . .it's hard to explain in a 15 second soundbite."  (At that point she had been trying to define it for 40 seconds.)

For conservatives, it is simply a synonym for "bad."  Try to dig deeper than that, and you get some "postmodernism" word salad, or the above "the understanding that we need to retotal, reimagine and reduce society in order to create hierarchies of oppression."

[richravizza 28]

31 minutes ago, billvon said:

"The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exist.” - Hannah Arendt

 Bill thank you for the Quote. I assumed it would just go away, so Bravo sir.

Like all great works the reader can read what they want, I'll assume in your eye's I'm the Nazi and I should assume you're the Commie. But I don't think that's it.

 

1 hour ago, wmw999 said:

You'd probably be a lot more interesting if you did your own talking. Me, I can't be bothered to listen to those videos. It takes a few seconds to a minute or two for a post; compared with 5+ minutes for a carefully-guided story/opinion piece. 

Wendy P.

Hi Wendy

 I couldn't do her justice and would be a real tragedy an insult if I tried.I prefer video,as nonverbal communication is nonexistent in a written word. 

I thought this appropriate for the Airborne to score some points with their Love.

so to you and ur special, enjoy.

 

[richravizza 28]

25 minutes ago, jakee said:

Define any single one of those words?

Actually, let me guess - What is postmodernism? Well, postmodernism is... the underpinning of woke! And woke is the end of postmodernism! So now we all know exactly what that's about.

They are all Concepts. 

[billvon 3,058]

11 minutes ago, richravizza said:

They are all Concepts. 

So you don't have any definitions - you just have a concept of a definition!   Love it.

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 I'll assume in your eye's I'm the Nazi and I should assume you're the Commie.

Neither, of course, is true.  That's what we call a "strawman."

[gowlerk 2,241]

1 hour ago, wmw999 said:

You'd probably be a lot more interesting if you did your own talking.

I respectfully disagree. His own talking is nothing but self indulgent faux rhetorical gibberish without any true meaning other than that the modern world pisses him off.

[richravizza 28]

 

1 hour ago, billvon said:

And when you get people used to believing untruths, the distinction between fact and fiction goes away, and there is only loyalty to the one person who promises to save them from the fake horrors of the world around them.

Are you on your ninth booster bro?

"When the facts change I change my mind,What do you do Sir ?"

I'll bet Gavins the shiny new thing that saves you when Democracy is at stake. oh wait you can't vote for him. To his credit he wrote a law to protect you from the "untruths" and systemic oppression that humor and parody inflict on any tyranny. Page one 

 

[richravizza 28]

34 minutes ago, gowlerk said:

I respectfully disagree. His own talking is nothing but self indulgent faux rhetorical gibberish without any true meaning other than that the modern world pisses him off.

How many Canadians still believe the mass graves of children litter their country.

[gowlerk 2,241]

24 minutes ago, richravizza said:

How many Canadians still believe the mass graves of children litter their country.

Congratulations. That is almost a correct use of the English language, except for the lack of a question mark. I appreciate the effort. I don't know the answer to that question, but I can say that there is a general sense of relief that rather than mass graves there were merely about 4 or 5 thousand children who died while attending residential school and some of their bodies were returned to their homes.

[richravizza 28]

1 hour ago, jakee said:

Define any single one of those words?

Actually, let me guess - What is postmodernism? Well, postmodernism is... the underpinning of woke! And woke is the end of postmodernism! So now we all know exactly what that's about.

Hi Jakee your responses are always so spunky, that's a compliment. 

 I hope you admired the recent unique harvest moon... it was mystikal here.

I suppose I put the cart before the horse, as a CRT dissection is needed before the Concepts. Some call it  The  Five Books of Woke. LOL 

Most of TK's basic questions about ideology can be answered here too.

 

[billvon 3,058]

1 hour ago, richravizza said:

Are you on your ninth booster bro?

Nope.  Are you an anti-vaxxer?  Worried about those 5G microtrackers?

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I'll bet Gavins the shiny new thing that saves you when Democracy is at stake. oh wait you can't vote for him. To his credit he wrote a law to protect you from the "untruths" and systemic oppression that humor and parody inflict on any tyranny. Page one

Gavin's an idiot.

Couldn't decipher the rest of your post, sorry.  Fatties?

[richravizza 28]

44 minutes ago, gowlerk said:

Congratulations. That is almost a correct use of the English language, except for the lack of a question mark. I appreciate the effort. I don't know the answer to that question, but I can say that there is a general sense of relief that rather than mass graves there were merely about 4 or 5 thousand children who died while attending residential school and some of their bodies were returned to their homes.

The burning of Churches has also ended so ,congrads back,with a rhetorical question mark.

Check the numbers disregard the duration or the mortality rate and you'll have yourself a RPM Narrative. A real Floyd moment. 

[gowlerk 2,241]

2 minutes ago, richravizza said:

The burning of Churches has also ended

Ended too soon as far as I'm concerned. The story of residential schools is one that I am intimately familiar with. More deeply than just my collection of orange shirts. Attempted cultural genocide by the theft of children was bound to fail. The anger against the evil religious organizations who abused and used innocents will not end as long as living people are still dealing with the scars. It is a multi-generational horror story that is still fresh and only beginning to heal.

[richravizza 28]

56 minutes ago, billvon said:

Nope.  Are you an anti-vaxxer?  Worried about those 5G microtrackers?

Gavin's an idiot.

Couldn't decipher the rest of your post, sorry.  Fatties?

Nope, nope, Bingo !!!!

No fatties just memes and humorous rhetoric six layers deep.

But I'll leave with Gavins an Idiot,and I'll add Trump is an Idiot too. Besides it's not the correct time of the year to eat cat. lol.

 

[jakee 1,556]

7 hours ago, richravizza said:

They are all Concepts. 

Concepts of what?

7 hours ago, richravizza said:

Like all great works the reader can read what they want, I'll assume in your eye's I'm the Nazi and I should assume you're the Commie. But I don't think that's it.

That's what you thought that quote was saying? Like.... seriously?

 

3 hours ago, richravizza said:

No fatties just memes and humorous rhetoric six layers deep.

Ah yes, you're playing on a genius level the rest of us can but scratch the surface of. They call it 'the weave'.

[tkhayes 348]

14 hours ago, richravizza said:

OK, I see the game you want to play,reminds me of denial. So woke is everywhere and nowhere all at once.A perfect analogy of the woke worldview of racism and the ie woke, anti racism scheme.  I'll agree it's a Contradiction.

 Do you think AB 1955 is woke?

Funny lady

not actually a game, I asked a question, you have yet to come up with any response.

I never said 'woke' does not exist, I asked for a definition of it and I asked why you consider it an ideology, GIVEN THE FACT that you cannot seem to define what it is in the first place.

Why are you upset about something that you can point at but cannot put a definition to?  Or explain how it is an ideology?  posting examples of it helps I guess, but still does not define it

So yeah, I kinda think that you just label anything that you disagree with as 'woke' which is a cheap way of making an argument.  Better to address issues with the specifics of the issue itself instead of general labeling I would think.

[SkyDekker 1,465]

18 hours ago, richravizza said:

Who could turn down a Free ride, ALL Aboard

Not the people in Appalachia. They all feel entitled to be saved by the government and people like you tend to be screaming the government isn't doing enough, isn't spending enough and isn't socialist enough.

[SkyDekker 1,465]

13 hours ago, gowlerk said:

Ended too soon as far as I'm concerned. The story of residential schools is one that I am intimately familiar with. More deeply than just my collection of orange shirts. Attempted cultural genocide by the theft of children was bound to fail. The anger against the evil religious organizations who abused and used innocents will not end as long as living people are still dealing with the scars. It is a multi-generational horror story that is still fresh and only beginning to heal.

Couldn't agree more. The residential school program is one of a few horrendous moments in Canadian history. One we should atone for and should recognize the irreparable harm it has caused in many First Nations communities.