winsor 236 #2401 November 24, 2024 On 11/20/2024 at 3:52 PM, kallend said: Rep. Sarah McBride (D, Delaware). Not allowed to use womens' restrooms in the US Capitol. I am cool with humoring someone in a laughing academy who self-identifies as Napoleon. There is no phobia involved in putting a limit on the extent to which this delusion is tolerated. If this person has a problem with being a homosexual female impersonator, that's its problem. It may be a lot of things, but 'woman' is not on the short list. The fact that this person insists on everyone agreeing with its delusion is not okay. I don't have the authority to insist that everyone agrees with me, and either does it. I can see why real women aren't comfortable with men sharing their facilities, if there is a 'family' toilet available, that pretty much resolves the issue. If it is a competent legislator, great. If it wants much more from the deal, not so good. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
winsor 236 #2402 November 24, 2024 1 minute ago, wolfriverjoe said: He doesn't want an actual 'discussion'. That would involve defining and defending his position. He can't do that. He just wants to rant and rave and spew his vitriol. Unlike who in particular? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,429 #2403 November 24, 2024 1 minute ago, winsor said: I am cool with humoring someone in a laughing academy who self-identifies as Napoleon. There is no phobia involved in putting a limit on the extent to which this delusion is tolerated. If this person has a problem with being a homosexual female impersonator, that's its problem. It may be a lot of things, but 'woman' is not on the short list. The fact that this person insists on everyone agreeing with its delusion is not okay. I don't have the authority to insist that everyone agrees with me, and either does it. I can see why real women aren't comfortable with men sharing their facilities, if there is a 'family' toilet available, that pretty much resolves the issue. If it is a competent legislator, great. If it wants much more from the deal, not so good. Hi winsor, I say horsepuckey. Real women all over the world are very comfortable with men sharing their facilities. Travel some in Asia and you will find out. This is just more grand-standing by the MAGA-idiots. Jerry Baumchen 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
winsor 236 #2404 November 24, 2024 15 minutes ago, JerryBaumchen said: Hi winsor, I say horsepuckey. Real women all over the world are very comfortable with men sharing their facilities. Travel some in Asia and you will find out. This is just more grand-standing by the MAGA-idiots.uJerry Baumchen I've spent a fair amount of time across Asia, from West to East, and am pretty much oblivious to who's using the facilities. One issue that comes to mind is that there are often lines into the ladies' room while access to the gent's room is unimpeded. My son and I often have to wait for my wife at concerts, airports and so forth. Thus, if there is a limited time during a break and a female legislator has to wait longer in order to humor someone's delusion, I can see why they aren't up for it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,429 #2405 November 24, 2024 3 minutes ago, winsor said: I've spent a fair amount of time across Asia, from West to East, and am pretty much oblivious to who's using the facilities. One issue that comes to mind is that there are often lines into the ladies' room while access to the gent's room is unimpeded. My son and I often have to wait for my wife at concerts, airports and so forth. Thus, if there is a limited time during a break and a female legislator has to wait longer in order to humor someone's delusion, I can see why they aren't up for it. Hi winsor, Here; or Asia? I've been to Japan & Korea and have found that, other than in the western-style hotels, they are uni-sex. And, not a bit of a problem. Jerry Baumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
winsor 236 #2406 November 24, 2024 12 minutes ago, JerryBaumchen said: Hi winsor, Here; or Asia? I've been to Japan & Korea and have found that, other than in the western-style hotels, they are uni-sex. And, not a bit of a problem. Jerry Baumchen I agree with your observations re. ifAsia. In the States the lines to the women's room are much more common than to the men's room. If both are crammed, I suppose I'd be annoyed if a woman got in from of me to avail herself of a shorter line it I was desperate to use the facilities. Other than that, who cares? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,429 #2407 November 24, 2024 17 minutes ago, winsor said: I agree with your observations re. ifAsia. In the States the lines to the women's room are much more common than to the men's room. If both are crammed, I suppose I'd be annoyed if a woman got in from of me to avail herself of a shorter line it I was desperate to use the facilities. Other than that, who cares? Hi winsor, I agree; tough to be a female here. The simple solution it to build restrooms like in Asia; a common room for washing, etc; with no urinals, just commodes for either sex to use in privacy. Now, our prudish society is aghast at such a thought. Oh, the horror. Jerry Baumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,811 #2408 November 24, 2024 6 minutes ago, JerryBaumchen said: Hi winsor, I agree; tough to be a female here. The simple solution it to build restrooms like in Asia; a common room for washing, etc; with no urinals, just commodes for either sex to use in privacy. Now, our prudish society is aghast at such a thought. Oh, the horror. Jerry Baumchen This is certainly the solution. Unfortunately, American politics desires more problems instead. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,064 #2409 November 24, 2024 50 minutes ago, winsor said: Other than that, who cares? Conservatives. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,064 #2410 November 24, 2024 30 minutes ago, JerryBaumchen said: The simple solution it to build restrooms like in Asia; a common room for washing, etc; with no urinals, just commodes for either sex to use in privacy. We did that in college - but with urinals as well. And despite the beliefs of those on the right society did not collapse, women were not preyed upon by evil actors of either sex, and no one ended up gay marrying their dog. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,429 #2411 November 24, 2024 35 minutes ago, billvon said: We did that in college - but with urinals as well. And despite the beliefs of those on the right society did not collapse, women were not preyed upon by evil actors of either sex, and no one ended up gay marrying their dog. Hi Bill, ^^^^^^ This. Jerry Baumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,106 #2412 November 24, 2024 1 hour ago, billvon said: We did that in college - but with urinals as well. And despite the beliefs of those on the right society did not collapse, women were not preyed upon by evil actors of either sex, and no one ended up gay marrying their dog. Probably because an immigrant had already eaten it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
winsor 236 #2413 November 25, 2024 3 hours ago, kallend said: Probably because an immigrant had already eaten it. The local Middle School had an event that began with an animated presentation. The coordinator asked the audience "does anyone like cats?" I said "they're great if you cook them right..." I'm guessing she didn't know a W. C. Fields line when she heard one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
richravizza 28 #2414 November 25, 2024 (edited) 11 hours ago, billvon said: Neither. I have no idea what you are talking about, and I'm not watching a Youtube video to try to figure it out. In my experience, people who get their opinions from TV or Youtube have done zero thinking about it; they are just regurgitating what the actor on the screen said. Here's a challenge. State your opinion in YOUR OWN WORDS. You can even use quotes from the video to support your statements, but make some statements to discuss. I mean, I could as easily demand you read Zinn's "People's History of the US" and then tell me what you think is wrong with it, but that's not a discussion. Obama repeated the Charlottesville, CNN mainstream media's lie.The Democratic talking point.Republicans are racist. Democratic elite and the likes of the Clown News Network and you, still don't realize it doesn't work anymore. Obama's "fine people on both sides" comments whether they were his true ignorance,which I highly doubt. More likely purposefully or blissfully ignorant the tool repeated the bullshit.CNN, MSLSD and the Dems have been parroting the lie for seven years now.Thank god the video you refuse to watch exists. Give it another try you just might get a warm feeling that runs up your leg.lol I know what he said,what he inferred, as do most. We aren't so hung up on an authoritarian fallacy to evade the truth or to watch a vid..The majority knows. So consider yourself the intelligent one above us, get past the opinion and focus on your heros words,better yet what he inferred. https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-very-fine-people/ Truthfully Bill no matter what I say or do,I don't think you could ever bring yourself to say; I can see your point,I may Agree. Edited November 25, 2024 by richravizza Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
richravizza 28 #2415 November 25, 2024 5 hours ago, winsor said: I said "they're great if you cook them right..." I was wondering if you're abreast with or had highlight these two that got cooked at Evergreen. Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying story is harrowing,The (sic) engaged pedagogy seems like it's working as planned.I find myself feeling quite fortunate to be able to evade such madness,a luxury most academics don't have. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,064 #2416 November 25, 2024 9 hours ago, richravizza said: Republicans are racist. A great many are. Immigrants "poisoning the blood of America" is a racist comment, and a great many republicans support it. The various US white nationalist organizations - American Freedom Party, Stormfront, Proud Boys, American Renaissance - support Trump wholeheartedly, and are right wing. Indeed, Trump has made hatred towards immigrants a central plank of his campaign, and has called out to the Proud Boys in his speeches. In the past he has been sued - and settled - over racist practices in his real estate businesses. And of course he said this: "I've got black accountants at Trump Castle and at Trump Plaza. Black guys counting my money! I hate it. The only kind of people I want counting my money are short guys wearing yarmulkes.... Those are the only kind of people I want counting my money. Nobody else... Besides that, I've got to tell you something else. I think that the guy's lazy. And it's probably not his fault because laziness is a trait in blacks." Trump has looked down on blacks his whole life, and he used racism to win the election. Trying to deny it now is a little late. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #2417 November 25, 2024 On 11/23/2024 at 1:42 PM, richravizza said: I have a huge proposal for every single family home built, the same amount of footage in single family townhouse and condominiums must be built.The TH/Condo split we can negotiate on.Discourage low rent subsidy, encourage ownership. Godspeed Sir. Ohh you have proposals. Let me guess, you have the outlines of a plan. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,064 #2418 November 25, 2024 52 minutes ago, SkyDekker said: Ohh you have proposals. Let me guess, you have the outlines of a plan. He has concepts of a plan. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #2419 November 25, 2024 1 minute ago, billvon said: He has concepts of a plan. Fuck, that was the term, screwed it up lol Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,064 #2420 November 25, 2024 On 11/21/2024 at 4:29 PM, SkyDekker said: Turns out that's the business I am in. What are you doing to build more housing? We don't need to. There are 17 million vacant houses/condos/apartments in the US and only about 600 million homeless. We already have an order of magnitude more housing than we need; we don't need to build more. A very simple answer is a ruinous tax on property that's vacant for (say) more than six months, say 2% of the value of the property per month it is vacant. That would incentivize people to either sell their extra homes or arrange for someone to live there when they are not. That wouldn't fly of course; rich people don't want poor people to live in their vacation homes, and rich people control government. But a variant of that would solve the problem without nothing new built. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #2421 November 25, 2024 13 minutes ago, billvon said: A very simple answer is a ruinous tax on property that's vacant for (say) more than six months, say 2% of the value of the property per month it is vacant. That would incentivize people to either sell their extra homes or arrange for someone to live there when they are not. We already have a vacancy tax and a foreign investor tax. We do need more housing, specially with migration targets in place. Though teh revised targets have eased that a little bit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,429 #2422 November 25, 2024 13 hours ago, richravizza said: Obama repeated the Charlottesville, CNN mainstream media's lie.The Democratic talking point.Republicans are racist. Democratic elite and the likes of the Clown News Network and you, still don't realize it doesn't work anymore. Obama's "fine people on both sides" comments whether they were his true ignorance,which I highly doubt. More likely purposefully or blissfully ignorant the tool repeated the bullshit.CNN, MSLSD and the Dems have been parroting the lie for seven years now.Thank god the video you refuse to watch exists. Give it another try you just might get a warm feeling that runs up your leg.lol I know what he said,what he inferred, as do most. We aren't so hung up on an authoritarian fallacy to evade the truth or to watch a vid..The majority knows. So consider yourself the intelligent one above us, get past the opinion and focus on your heros words,better yet what he inferred. https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-very-fine-people/ Truthfully Bill no matter what I say or do,I don't think you could ever bring yourself to say; I can see your point,I may Agree. Hi rich, Re: Obama's "fine people on both sides" comments Where did you get that from? The ONLY person that I am aware of saying that is Trump. Jerry Baumchen 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,523 #2423 November 25, 2024 2 hours ago, JerryBaumchen said: Hi rich, Re: Obama's "fine people on both sides" comments Where did you get that from? The ONLY person that I am aware of saying that is Trump. Jerry Baumchen He makes it up. Or parrots crap other people made up. Fun fact: A whole bunch of people are denying that Trumpty Dumpty said, in the wake of Heather Heyer's murder, that there were 'very fine people on both sides'. It's bullshit. I heard him say it live. One of those sides was the Nazis & KKK. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,429 #2424 November 26, 2024 46 minutes ago, wolfriverjoe said: He makes it up. Or parrots crap other people made up. Fun fact: A whole bunch of people are denying that Trumpty Dumpty said, in the wake of Heather Heyer's murder, that there were 'very fine people on both sides'. It's bullshit. I heard him say it live. One of those sides was the Nazis & KKK. Hi Joe, Re: He makes it up. This reminds me of something I read a couple of days ago. It seems as though, after his inauguration, Trump will ask the DOJ to look into fraud in the 2020 election. He just cannot seem to accept that he lost. Jerry Baumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,523 #2425 November 26, 2024 40 minutes ago, JerryBaumchen said: Hi Joe, Re: He makes it up. This reminds me of something I read a couple of days ago. It seems as though, after his inauguration, Trump will ask the DOJ to look into fraud in the 2020 election. He just cannot seem to accept that he lost. Jerry Baumchen Hi Jerry, Of course he will. Just like he had them look into the 'illegal immigrants voting' in the 2016 election to prove he didn't lose the popular vote. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites