websean 0 #1 June 22, 2016 Hi everyone, I'm still a pretty new jumper and have developed a bad habit of arching through my chest instead of my hips. This gives me a pretty slow fall rate and I'm already very light to begin with, so I have trouble keeping up with other jumpers unless they flatten out. Moreover, this usually causes me to tumble a bit while riding the hill before stabling out. I've been told I have a perfect arch on the creeper, floor, etc but when I get in the air I revert to arching through my chest. Has anyone else struggled with this? All advice is appreciated! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mathrick 2 #2 June 22, 2016 Tunnel. Coach. Punching you in the back until you do it right, then reviewing the video."Skydivers are highly emotional people. They get all excited about their magical black box full of mysterious life saving forces." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
councilman24 37 #3 June 22, 2016 Stick your dick out and put the back of your head against your rig. I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #4 June 22, 2016 councilman24 Stick your dick out and put the back of your head against your rig. seriously this ^^^^ Arch -- it's not the chest it's not the belly it's not the hips you girlfriend asked for an extra inch, give her two (insert non-gender based equivalent here for those sensitive to this type of talk - or pretend it's Speaker's Corner) ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gene03 0 #5 June 22, 2016 Picture a drunk dude urinating in an alley. No matter what genitala you're equipped with.“The only fool bigger than the person who knows it all is the person who argues with him. Stanislaw Jerzy Lec quotes (Polish writer, poet and satirist 1906-1966) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #6 June 22, 2016 Squeeze you butt cheeks together and lift your chin. It's about knowing which muscle groups to task....---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FlyingRhenquest 1 #7 June 22, 2016 diablopilotSqueeze you butt cheeks together and lift your chin. It's about knowing which muscle groups to task.... Yeah, damn, I can open a beer bottle or crack a walnut with them, now!I'm trying to teach myself how to set things on fire with my mind. Hey... is it hot in here? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tikl68 6 #8 June 23, 2016 Clinching your but cheeks is a good one,even while standing around. Do it while talking to some one and pay attention to what your hips do. A good drill to reaffirm this muscle memory is when you are at home lay down on the floor with a pillow under your thighs and a pillow under your rib cage so that the only thing touching the floor is your pecker/pelvis. Keep the pillow that is under your thighs close to your knee and dont use a big one for that area, and watch tv while doing this to force your chin up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnMitchell 16 #9 June 23, 2016 Make sure your feet and knees aren't too wide. If the legs are spread too wide, it locks the hips in the pelvis and prevents you from getting your hips-forward/legs-back. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
websean 0 #10 June 23, 2016 Thanks everyone! I haven't really been thinking about chin up + clenching butt cheeks together so I'll definitely work on that during my next jump. Also, I do have a tendency to spread my knees pretty wide which makes arching (correctly ) really tough. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
websean 0 #11 June 23, 2016 rehmwayou girlfriend asked for an extra inch, give her two (insert non-gender based equivalent here for those sensitive to this type of talk - or pretend it's Speaker's Corner) Haha I've been single since I started skydiving, therein lies the problem! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 643 #12 June 23, 2016 You could use negative reinforcement ... or you could use positive reinforcement. Negative reinforcement involves thinking impure thoughts about naughty lads sneaking up behind you. Positive reinforcement involves fantasizing about sneaking up behind the most beautiful woman in the world. Either fantasy will clench your butt cheeks together tighter than a misers' wallet. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnMitchell 16 #13 June 23, 2016 websean Also, I do have a tendency to spread my knees pretty wide which makes arching (correctly ) really tough. Ahh, that's a common problem. We just might be on to a specific remedy for your problem. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chuckakers 425 #14 June 24, 2016 Gene03 Picture a drunk dude urinating in an alley. No matter what genitala you're equipped with. I've always preferred this type of approach. When I was teaching I always told my students to "act like a big ol' fat guy" by sticking their entire belly and crotch forward rather that arching with their back (often equals chest). Also, stop "trying" to arch. We tend to use our arms and hands a lot in everyday life and that ends up getting transferred unconsciously to freefall. Often jumpers aren't actually trying to arch in their chests - they are trying to pull their arms back and elbows up to the point where they arch across the chest to get that done. Don't use your arms to arch. Just put them in the correct position and do the rest with your pelvis. Relax and think "fat belly". Repeat. Chuck Akers D-10855 Houston, TX Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites