ryoder 1,590 #26 January 20, 2022 (edited) OK, MAGAts, which is it? This? Florida advances DeSantis-backed ban on making white people feel 'discomfort' or 'guilt' from past racism Or this? Seems to me the former is the definition of "sensitive snowflakes". Edited January 20, 2022 by ryoder Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
winsor 236 #27 January 20, 2022 4 hours ago, ryoder said: OK, MAGAts, which is it? This? Florida advances DeSantis-backed ban on making white people feel 'discomfort' or 'guilt' from past racism Or this? Seems to me the former is the definition of "sensitive snowflakes". The law is badly phrased, but it proscribes busting the balls of black kids for black communities having looted and burned down their own neighborhoods in times of trouble (Watts, Newark et al.) as much as it proscribes busting the balls of white kids for white communities having burned down black neighborhoods (Tulsa at least). The amusement value afforded by Trump was limited at best. I wish we could do better than any of the Bozos we elect, but the scum rises to the top. BSBD, Winsor Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 444 #28 January 20, 2022 6 hours ago, mistercwood said: I'll regret this, but - we were right to mock them. CRT wasn't being taught in public 526 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
winsor 236 #29 January 20, 2022 27 minutes ago, brenthutch said: 526 At first blush denial is indistinguishable from stupidity, and Woke is very much a disease of denial. Since I see one version of racism as being no more or less evil than another, CRT by any name would smell as foul. BSBD, Winsor 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 444 #30 January 20, 2022 https://thefederalist.com/2022/01/19/in-defiance-of-youngkin-fairfax-public-school-demands-high-schoolers-participate-in-privilege-bingo/ I think the libs are just pissed off that their indoctrination factories are being scrutinized. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,447 #31 January 20, 2022 Só let me get this straight — it’s perfectly OK to question the qualifications and route to power or wealth of women and minorities — just in the interests of fact. But questioning the qualifications and route to power of the people already ensconced (lighter in skin and greater testosterone) is getting into CRT and “privilege.” Don’t you fucking understand that being born into a group that’s over-represented in the power structure is an advantage? Kind of like additional height if you’re a basketball player or political candidate. It’s completely unearned. That doesn’t mean you should deny it, just realize that it’s an advantage. Wendy P. 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
winsor 236 #32 January 20, 2022 42 minutes ago, wmw999 said: Só let me get this straight — it’s perfectly OK to question the qualifications and route to power or wealth of women and minorities — just in the interests of fact. But questioning the qualifications and route to power of the people already ensconced (lighter in skin and greater testosterone) is getting into CRT and “privilege.” Don’t you fucking understand that being born into a group that’s over-represented in the power structure is an advantage? Kind of like additional height if you’re a basketball player or political candidate. It’s completely unearned. That doesn’t mean you should deny it, just realize that it’s an advantage. Wendy P. Where I draw the line is expecting an NBA player to be contrite because I'm short and uncoordinated. That's fucking stupid. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIGUN 1,314 #33 January 20, 2022 1 hour ago, wmw999 said: just realize that it’s an advantage. 17 minutes ago, winsor said: Where I draw the line is expecting an NBA player to be contrite because I'm short and uncoordinated. But if just the both of you showed up on the court; he would immediately know that he has an advantage on the court. Note: In his world. Get it? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 444 #34 January 20, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, BIGUN said: But if just the both of you showed up on the court; he would immediately know that he has an advantage on the court. Note: In his world. Get it? So to address this inequity, every time the taller player scores his points would be redistributed. Edited January 20, 2022 by brenthutch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,720 #35 January 20, 2022 (edited) 7 minutes ago, BIGUN said: But if just the both of you showed up on the court; he would immediately know that he has an advantage on the court. Note: In his world. Get it? Maybe he believes that with a sufficient passage of time some tall person will ask him for help getting something off the bottom shelf thereby proving the point once and for all. Edited January 20, 2022 by JoeWeber 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIGUN 1,314 #36 January 20, 2022 (edited) 19 minutes ago, brenthutch said: 23 minutes ago, BIGUN said: But if just the both of you showed up on the court; he would immediately know that he has an advantage on the court. Note: In his world. Get it? So to address this inequity, every time the taller player scores his points would be redistributed. Play Golf much? Ever run track? Ever been in the military and had to proctor a PT Test with men & women. It's not about redistribution; it's about recognizing "the advantage" overall. If Winsor showed up on a court, I'm fairly confident the NBA player would spot him a couple of points, give him a class on 3 point shots, how to pivot or check against taller people. ETA: Now, what if there were a law or rule that no one Winsor's height was allowed on a basketball court. Edited January 20, 2022 by BIGUN 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,193 #37 January 20, 2022 4 hours ago, winsor said: The law is badly phrased, but it proscribes busting the balls of black kids for black communities having looted and burned down their own neighborhoods in times of trouble (Watts, Newark et al.) as much as it proscribes busting the balls of white kids for white communities having burned down black neighborhoods I'm pretty sure that black kids are not afraid of confronting their past. Unlike the lily white snowflakes of the valley. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 444 #38 January 20, 2022 4 minutes ago, BIGUN said: Play Golf much? Ever run track? Ever been in the military and had to proctor a PT Test with men & women. It's not about redistribution; it's about recognizing "the advantage" overall. I was in combat arms for the duration of my military career so I never administered a PT test to any women. I did administer many PT tests in my all male units and I don’t recall giving the slow guys a head start to make things “fair” Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
winsor 236 #39 January 20, 2022 41 minutes ago, BIGUN said: But if just the both of you showed up on the court; he would immediately know that he has an advantage on the court. Note: In his world. Get it? Very much so. If someone shows up in my world and says things that suggest that their degree resulted purely from donations to the school by their family, or otherwise being in a position where their grades don't reflect their abilities, I assure you I won't give them a pass. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIGUN 1,314 #40 January 20, 2022 Both of you - sidestepping the point. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
winsor 236 #41 January 20, 2022 43 minutes ago, BIGUN said: Both of you - sidestepping the point. Not hardly. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #42 January 20, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, brenthutch said: I was in combat arms for the duration of my military career so I never administered a PT test to any women. I did administer many PT tests in my all male units and I don’t recall giving the slow guys a head start to make things “fair” Ah yes, the US combat arms which has a very disproportionate number of African Americans in leadership positions. Guess black people are just too stupid to make it, right. Cause we all know the US military is just one level playing field where people only advance based on their abilities...... Figures that is where you got your sense of "all is equal" from. Edited January 20, 2022 by SkyDekker Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 444 #43 January 20, 2022 (edited) 55 minutes ago, SkyDekker said: Ah yes, the US combat arms which has a very disproportionate number of African Americans in leadership positions. Guess black people are just too stupid to make it, right. yeah right….. Edited January 20, 2022 by brenthutch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lippy 918 #44 January 20, 2022 6 hours ago, winsor said: At first blush denial is indistinguishable from stupidity Trust me, your posts on this topic make this ABUNDANTLY clear Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #45 January 20, 2022 1 hour ago, brenthutch said: yeah right….. Wasn't my opinion. Is the opinion of the Modern War Institute at West Point. But I am sure you know much more then them with your "I have one black friend so I can't be racist". https://mwi.usma.edu/strategic-problem-army-doesnt-seem-care-african-americans-arent-branching-combat-arms/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,720 #46 January 20, 2022 1 hour ago, brenthutch said: yeah right….. Nothing quite proves a proposition like a single data point pulled out of space/time. All of that global warming study you've done has paid off again. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 444 #47 January 20, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, SkyDekker said: Wasn't my opinion. Is the opinion of the Modern War Institute at West Point. But I am sure you know much more then them with your "I have one black friend so I can't be racist". https://mwi.usma.edu/strategic-problem-army-doesnt-seem-care-african-americans-arent-branching-combat-arms/ It only seems fair that us white male soldiers bear the brunt of combat, given we are the beneficiaries of a racist, misogynistic patriarchy. Edited January 20, 2022 by brenthutch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #48 January 20, 2022 1 minute ago, brenthutch said: It only seems fair that us white male soldiers bear the brunt of combat, given we are the beneficiaries of a racist, misogynistic patriarchy. This article didn't say African Americans are underrepresented in combat arms, it says they are underrepresented in the leadership positions of combat arms branches. I often wonder if you can state your name without fucking it up. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 444 #49 January 20, 2022 8 minutes ago, SkyDekker said: This article didn't say African Americans are underrepresented in combat arms, it says they are underrepresented in the leadership positions of combat arms branches. I often wonder if you can state your name without fucking it up. I didn’t quote the article, tough guy, it’s not just leadership it is enlisted soldiers as well. Do some more research before you pop off half informed, you will look less foolish. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #50 January 20, 2022 4 minutes ago, brenthutch said: I didn’t quote the article, tough guy, it’s not just leadership it is enlisted soldiers as well. Do some more research before you pop off half informed, you will look less foolish. You literally included the link to the article in your quote.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites