Hunter Biden Laptop

[jakee 1,564]

5 hours ago, metalslug said:

So 50 former intelligence officials have written “..this is Russia trying to influence how Americans vote in this election..." . Evidently these 50+ people believe that the laptop content could have been damaging to the Biden family and consequently the election outcome. With the tin-foil ushanka now removed....

How does that answer the question, so what? There are 50 intelligence officials warning that the release of the information whether genuine or not has the fingerprints of Moscow all over it - yet the influence Brent is shocked and appalled by is from the NYT?

Even setting aside the fact that, again, the information released was damaging to Hunter Biden, a man who has not been involved in any recent elections.

[GeorgiaDon 379]

Apparently the family of Democratic politicians are not permitted to engage in any form of gainful employment, investing, or even purchasing any goods or services, lest such activity be construed as some sort of a "quid pro quo".  I suppose they also are barred from collecting unemployment, welfare, or accepting any support in excess of $50 from their family members.  Absent any possibility of obtaining an income, I suppose that means they just have to live in a van down by the river until they starve.  Family of Republican politicians, on the other hand, are entitled to grift as much as they can from the government, especially if their last name is Trump.  Seems fair. 

[jakee 1,564]

13 minutes ago, GeorgiaDon said:

Apparently the family of Democratic politicians are not permitted to engage in any form of gainful employment, investing, or even purchasing any goods or services, lest such activity be construed as some sort of a "quid pro quo".  I suppose they also are barred from collecting unemployment, welfare, or accepting any support in excess of $50 from their family members.  Absent any possibility of obtaining an income, I suppose that means they just have to live in a van down by the river until they starve.  Family of Republican politicians, on the other hand, are entitled to grift as much as they can from the government, especially if their last name is Trump.  Seems fair. 

I find it particularly amusing that Brent can't figure out how in the world a middle aged Ivy League lawyer could possibly be a millionaire.

[billvon 3,079]

23 minutes ago, GeorgiaDon said:

Apparently the family of Democratic politicians are not permitted to engage in any form of gainful employment, investing, or even purchasing any goods or services, lest such activity be construed as some sort of a "quid pro quo".  I suppose they also are barred from collecting unemployment, welfare, or accepting any support in excess of $50 from their family members. 

Exactly!  Republicans, however, can sell Chinese shoes from the White House press office, and funnel millions in taxpayer dollars into their properties.  That's just good business!

"But . . . but . . . his laptop . . ."

 

[JerryBaumchen 1,445]

9 minutes ago, billvon said:

Exactly!  Republicans, however, can sell Chinese shoes from the White House press office, and funnel millions in taxpayer dollars into their properties.  That's just good business!

"But . . . but . . . his laptop . . ."

 

Hi Bill,

How do you determine a Republican from other politicians?

Just watch his tongue as he speaks; it is forked.

Jerry Baumchen

[ryoder 1,590]

1 hour ago, billvon said:

Exactly!  Republicans, however, can sell Chinese shoes from the White House press office, and funnel millions in taxpayer dollars into their properties.  That's just good business!

"But . . . but . . . his laptop . . ."

 

And put totally unqualified family members into administration positions. 

[wolfriverjoe 1,523]

8 hours ago, metalslug said:

You mean the 'evidence' from Michael Sussmann, Igor Danchenko and the Steele document' ?   I'm no Trump supporter, but I like horseshyte smear campaigns even less.

No, not in the least.

I'm talking about Trump reps meeting with Russian diplomats (illegally) before the election. Flynn lied to the FBI about it, was convicted and sentenced to prison. Trump pardoned him.
I'm talking about Trump trying to get the sanctions against Russia removed as one of the first things he did as President (and failed).
I'm talking about how he basically bent over and kissed Putin's ass in Helsinki in 2018, then came home and 'talked tough'. 
I'm talking about how he called Putin "genius" for pretending to go in as a 'peacekeeping force' at the beginning of the invasion.
I'm talking about how he has yet to publicly criticize Putin for the invasion.

I'm talking about how he welcomed the Russian press into the Oval Office in the first week of being President, yet refused to hold formal press conferences for almost the entire 4 years he was in office.

There's a shit ton more, none of which, by itself, is proof. But collectively, in total, it's abundantly clear that Trump was Putin's bitch from well before the election.

Don't forget that there were reports that the NSA stopped giving Trump everything in the 'classified' briefings for fear he would tell Putin.

[billvon 3,079]

13 minutes ago, wolfriverjoe said:

No, not in the least.

I'm talking about Trump reps meeting with Russian diplomats (illegally) before the election. 

I would also add the fact that his former campaign manager, Paul Manafort, has been convicted of conspiring against the US with a Russian agent.

All of the convictions of his former campaign, administration and associates are matters of public record.  So is Trump's ongoing rape/slander trial.   Which is one reason that "but . . . but . . . Hunter's laptop" as an attempted deflection is so funny.

[jakee 1,564]

37 minutes ago, ryoder said:

And put totally unqualified family members into administration positions. 

It's crazy. The right is apoplectic that Hunter once went to China at the same time as Joe because of course it must be influence peddling. Meanwhile Trump not only regularly brought his businesspeople kids along on official business, he brought them into the fucking meetings. Ivanka was in the room where it happened, Jared (an inept real estate developer completely reliant on foreign investment) was in every room where everything happened. Trump literally turned the Executive branch into a family business in a way that was not just flagrantly unethical, it would have been categorically, savagely illegal for any other government offical except the President.

 

But Hunter once reminded his contact at Burisma that Joe was his dad, so now the sky is falling. Because of course that's how they see it.

[wolfriverjoe 1,523]

1 minute ago, billvon said:

I would also add the fact that his former campaign manager, Paul Manafort, has been convicted of conspiring against the US with a Russian agent.

All of the convictions of his former campaign, administration and associates are matters of public record.  So is Trump's ongoing rape/slander trial.   Which is one reason that "but . . . but . . . Hunter's laptop" as an attempted deflection is so funny.

Trump's rape/slander trial has nothing to do with Russia.

Neither does his settlement for the "Trump U" lawsuit.

Nor does all the investigations about his tax evasion.

Or his potential for facing prosecution for the insurrection attempt on Jan 6.

Or any of the (roughly) zillion other 'bad things' he's done.

I'm specifically referring to the idea that Trump was under the infuence/control of Putin. Having Manafort as his campaign manager is an interesting 'little fact' that I neglected to include.
Manafort has a fairly long resume working for Russian oligarchs and politicians. Which means indirectly for Putin.

To equate Hunter Biden being given a job that he wasn't terribly qualified for to get the name "Biden" on the masthead and to get potential access to a prominent US  politician is hardly a comparable action. It's also not illegal. 

 

In fact, the idea that Trump tried to (illegally) restrict US military aid to Ukraine in an attempt to get Zelensky to pretend to open an investigation is a bit telling.
Do you think Putin liked the idea of less US military aid to Ukraine?

[brenthutch 444]

7 hours ago, jakee said:

I find it particularly amusing that Brent can't figure out how in the world a middle aged Ivy League lawyer could possibly be a millionaire.

Oh I have no doubts about how he became a millionaire.

[SkyDekker 1,465]

14 hours ago, brenthutch said:

Oh I have no doubts about how he became a millionaire.

Nor do I. Because he was born with a lot of privilege. That is how a lot of people become millionaires. Nobody is disputing that Hunter Biden has been helped a lot by having the last name Biden.

What you have yet to prove, even remotely, is that anything illegal was done in him exercising that privilege.

Edited March 21, 2022 by SkyDekker

[jakee 1,564]

15 hours ago, brenthutch said:

Oh I have no doubts about how he became a millionaire.

Any time you’re ready to share any information about that, please don’t hold back.

[GeorgiaDon 379]

Typical Republican MO:  make a lot of smoke, then claim there must be fire.  Also the smoke is from peeing on hot sauna rocks.

[billvon 3,079]

1 hour ago, GeorgiaDon said:

Typical Republican MO:  make a lot of smoke, then claim there must be fire.

The Chewbacca defense!

[brenthutch 444]

2 hours ago, SkyDekker said:

Nor do I. Because he was born with a lot of privilege. That is how a lot of people become millionaires. Nobody is disputing that Hunter Biden has been helped a lot by having the last name Biden.

What you have yet to prove, even remotely, is that anything illegal was done in him exercising that privilege.

https://news.yahoo.com/lawyer-examined-hunter-biden-finances-141735819.html

Tax fraud 
 

[jakee 1,564]

15 minutes ago, brenthutch said:

https://news.yahoo.com/lawyer-examined-hunter-biden-finances-141735819.html

Tax fraud 
 

So what?

Cool link by the way.

Hunter wrote in a 2014 email that Burisma officials “need to know in no uncertain terms that we will not and cannot intervene directly with domestic policymakers, and that we need to abide by FARA and any other U.S. laws in the strictest sense across the board.”

[brenthutch 444]

9 minutes ago, jakee said:

So what?

Cool link by the way.

Hunter wrote in a 2014 email that Burisma officials “need to know in no uncertain terms that we will not and cannot intervene directly with domestic policymakers, and that we need to abide by FARA and any other U.S. laws in the strictest sense across the board.”

 

10 minutes ago, jakee said:

So what?

Cool link by the way.

Hunter wrote in a 2014 email that Burisma officials “need to know in no uncertain terms that we will not and cannot intervene directly with domestic policymakers, and that we need to abide by FARA and any other U.S. laws in the strictest sense across the board.”

Very cool. I guess he just has to show that to the FBI and they will call off their investigation.

[brenthutch 444]

13 minutes ago, jakee said:

So what?

Cool link by the way.

Hunter wrote in a 2014 email that Burisma officials “need to know in no uncertain terms that we will not and cannot intervene directly with domestic policymakers, and that we need to abide by FARA and any other U.S. laws in the strictest sense across the board.“

FIFY

[brenthutch 444]

“According to emails obtained by DailyMail.com, President Joe Biden may have shared a bank account with his son Hunter Biden, who is the subject of a federal investigation that is reportedly looking into possible money laundering and illegal foreign ties.”

https://wset.com/news/nation-world/emails-show-hunter-and-joe-biden-shared-finances-bank-account

I guess that is how the “Big Guy” took his cut.

[SkyDekker 1,465]

58 minutes ago, brenthutch said:

https://news.yahoo.com/lawyer-examined-hunter-biden-finances-141735819.html

Tax fraud 
 

That doesn't prove his income was illegal, just that he didn't pay the required taxes on it.

[SkyDekker 1,465]

16 minutes ago, brenthutch said:

“According to emails obtained by DailyMail.com, President Joe Biden may have shared a bank account with his son Hunter Biden, who is the subject of a federal investigation that is reportedly looking into possible money laundering and illegal foreign ties.”

https://wset.com/news/nation-world/emails-show-hunter-and-joe-biden-shared-finances-bank-account

I guess that is how the “Big Guy” took his cut.

I share bank accounts with all my kids. What exactly is illegal about that?

[JerryBaumchen 1,445]

15 minutes ago, SkyDekker said:

I share bank accounts with all my kids. What exactly is illegal about that?

Hi Sky,

As do I.  Sure hope I don't get in trouble for it.

Jerry Baumchen

PS)  And my daughter has Power of Attorney for me.  Am I in even bigger trouble?

How about my Doctor's Directive?  Is that going to get me in hot water, also?

[billvon 3,079]

40 minutes ago, SkyDekker said:

I share bank accounts with all my kids. What exactly is illegal about that?

Me too.  In fact, we share a 529, which is a tax-exempt college savings account where we deposit money for them, invest it, and it grows TAX FREE!  Did you see that?  We are DODGING TAXES on college savings!  Refusing to pay taxes!  Not paying our fair share on the college funds!  Guess I will never be able to run for any federal office.

And as if that wasn't enough, I even have a laptop that they use!

[brenthutch 444]

1 hour ago, SkyDekker said:

I share bank accounts with all my kids. What exactly is illegal about that?

The money laundering part