Abortion Commentary

[nigel99 558]

14 minutes ago, BIGUN said:

The position of Homemaker is outdated. Dishwashers, Laundry machines, Robotic floor cleaners, Factor food delivery, etc. etc. Pretty much all one has to do these days is make your bed, fold your clothes and nuke some food.   

Now both parents can make a home. 

I disagree. When you include kids, there is a lot that tech can’t do. I’m a firm advocate of one parent taking on the role of homemaker till somewhere between 7 and 16. 

[BIGUN 1,393]

2 hours ago, nigel99 said:

I’m a firm advocate of one parent taking on the role of homemaker till somewhere between 7 and 16.

Sexist? j/k There is value in that belief, but times are changing.  

[nigel99 558]

2 minutes ago, BIGUN said:

Sexist? j/k There is value in that belief, but times are changing.  

I know there is financial pressure for both parents to work, but I do think kids lose a lot of emotional bonding as a result. 

[BIGUN 1,393]

1 hour ago, nigel99 said:

but I do think kids lose a lot of emotional bonding as a result. 

No argument. My ex and I had a serious discussion about that. We had a ton of nieces and nephews and the ones who stayed home had kids that just seemed more stable, social and did well in life. 

EDIT: Let me add this. Having a child later in life and both of us being more financially secure and unable to relinquish our own days; we found those tools and a housekeeper allowed us to spend more quality time. We spend at least four nights a week having dinner together, playing games and talking. Something I acknowledge that younger parents cannot always afford. 

Edited May 17, 2024 by BIGUN

[johnhking1 97]

28 minutes ago, nigel99 said:

I know there is financial pressure for both parents to work, but I do think kids lose a lot of emotional bonding as a result. 

With the cost of day care, driving the kids to day care or school, after school babysitting, paying for cleaning service, lawn mowing or landscaping, buying fast food or prepared food for dinner can eat up most of a second salary.  Also, missing soccer games and other after school activities because you are still at work, being too tired to help with homework or spend time with your kids.  

[billvon 3,058]

2 hours ago, BIGUN said:

Having a child later in life and both of us being more financially secure and unable to relinquish our own days

Three comments on this.

One, as you said, having kids later in life will allow parents to be better parents - be around more, not have to move as often due to financial problems, not have to 'farm out' childrearing to others.

Two, if everyone starts having kids later in life, the human race will naturally start evolving towards longer lifespans with a higher quality of life for those years.  This is just simple evolution; if the successful reproducers are in their 40s, the people who die early, become morbidly obese or infertile in their 30's, and make deadly life decisions early on will not have offspring and will be removed from the gene pool.

Three, this will tend to reduce population (going back to your earlier arguments) since statistically the later in life you have kids, the smaller (average) number of kids per woman.  Partly due to the evolutionary pressure above, and partly (I think) because older people tend to make better decisions, and are better equipped to buy/use/understand birth control.

Of course all of that requires you fight the idiocracy default.

[JerryBaumchen 1,422]

7 hours ago, nigel99 said:

I disagree. When you include kids, there is a lot that tech can’t do. I’m a firm advocate of one parent taking on the role of homemaker till somewhere between 7 and 16. 

Hi Nigel,

That is a broad brush that you are using.

Both of my children are married & both spouses have had full-time jobs thru-out the marriages.  They each have one child.  Both of my grandchildren are exceptional; I may be biased but here are the facts:

- my 19 yr old grandson has made the Dean's List both semesters for his first yr of college.

- my 10 yr old granddaughter was just in a reading & comprehension test with other 4th graders, 5th graders & 6th graders; she came in 2nd of all of them.

Both, to me, seem to be very well adjusted & on track to be successful in life.  Time will tell.

Jerry Baumchen

[kallend 2,099]

Supreme Court maintains access to abortion pill in unanimous decision

[winsor 236]

1 hour ago, kallend said:

Supreme Court maintains access to abortion pill in unanimous decision

Every once in a while they get it right, despite their best efforts.

Too many people on both sides fail to differentiate between zygote rejection and 'partial birth abortion.'

Edited June 13, 2024 by winsor

[gowlerk 2,241]

1 hour ago, kallend said:

Supreme Court maintains access to abortion pill in unanimous decision

Roberts must have pushed the super catholic justices hard to get that result. The FDA is still allowed to approve drugs. But the states are still allowed to forbid prescribing them for inducing abortions.

[SkyDekker 1,465]

47 minutes ago, gowlerk said:

Roberts must have pushed the super catholic justices hard to get that result. The FDA is still allowed to approve drugs. But the states are still allowed to forbid prescribing them for inducing abortions.

I am not sure the case was decided on merit or facts, but on lack of standing.

[ryoder 1,590]

9 minutes ago, SkyDekker said:

I am not sure the case was decided on merit or facts, but on lack of standing.

Exactly.

The door is still open for the case to be brought again.

The Supreme Court’s abortion pill case is only a narrow and temporary victory for abortion

[gowlerk 2,241]

Just now, SkyDekker said:

I am not sure the case was decided on merit or facts, but on lack of standing.

Yes, somehow they decided that having your religious views offended did not you standing to sue.

[kallend 2,099]

And in related matters:

WASHINGTON — Senate Republicans blocked a Democratic-led bill Thursday to codify broad federal protections for in vitro fertilization.

So the war on women continues.

[JoeWeber 2,807]

Just now, kallend said:

And in related matters:

WASHINGTON — Senate Republicans blocked a Democratic-led bill Thursday to codify broad federal protections for in vitro fertilization.

So the war on women continues.

The war on science and secularism, I think.

[winsor 236]

13 hours ago, kallend said:

And in related matters:

WASHINGTON — Senate Republicans blocked a Democratic-led bill Thursday to codify broad federal protections for in vitro fertilization.

So the war on women continues.

Women maybe, sanity for sure.

[ryoder 1,590]

Good work, TX GOP!

Texas abortion restrictions linked to a rise in infant deaths: Study

- infant deaths: +12.8%

- deaths per thousand live births: +8.3%

- congenital anomalies: +22.9%

[jakee 1,556]

27 minutes ago, ryoder said:

Good work, TX GOP!

Texas abortion restrictions linked to a rise in infant deaths: Study

- infant deaths: +12.8%

- deaths per thousand live births: +8.3%

- congenital anomalies: +22.9%

They’ll just look at that and say ‘well at least we gave them a chance at life’.

The only thing that’ll make them pause is enough white,  Christian, photogenic, suburban, family wanting women dying of sepsis because their doctors waited until it was undeniably clear that the immediate abortion of an already doomed foetus was needed to save their lives. Of course it’ll only give them pause for a moment, they’ll just come back and say “the law we wrote didn’t explicitly tell the doctors to do that, it’s all their fault!”

[kallend 2,099]

The only three GOP women in the SC Senate have lost their primaries to right wing males because they each opposed SC's total abortion ban.

The SC Senate will now have only two female senators, both Dems.

 

I just don't understand what this country is coming to.

 

[JoeWeber 2,807]

Just now, kallend said:

The only three GOP women in the SC Senate have lost their primaries to right wing males because they each opposed SC's total abortion ban.

The SC Senate will now have only two female senators, both Dems.

 

I just don't understand what this country is coming to.

 

A theocracy, unless Biden does the right thing.

[normiss 843]

8 minutes ago, JoeWeber said:

A theocracy, unless Biden does the right thing.

Trump is not a priest or religious leader though, wouldn't autocracy be more accurate?

 

[JoeWeber 2,807]

Just now, normiss said:

Trump is not a priest or religious leader though, wouldn't autocracy be more accurate?

 

The church is always there to give the autocrat legitimacy and, actually, to make it happen in the first place. As long as we get more God they’re happy and the autocrat couldn’t care any less.

[ryoder 1,590]

Are you sitting down for this? A Trump-appointed judge in Texas is allowing a woman to sue the prosecutors and sheriffs for illegal prosecution over an abortion.

Woman imprisoned for abortion, wrongfully charged with murder, will be allowed to sue prosecutors, sheriffs for $1M

[kallend 2,099]

Has anyone been following the GOP's contortions in Arkansas to prevent a reproductive rights initiative from being put to the voters?

Clearly the GOP does not trust the people of the state to decide for themselves.

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/08/22/arkansas-supreme-court-blocks-abortion-measure-00175823

 

[SkyDekker 1,465]

Little preview of America's future as pined for by Republicans: