Rustbucket350 41 #1 Posted June 8, 2022 Generic question. What's the difference between flaring and stalling? How different does it feel when releasing the toggles to let the canopy recover? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deisel 38 #2 June 8, 2022 Flare - converting forward movement into lift. Stall - not enough airflow over the wing to produce lift. To put it simply, a stall is what happens at the end of the flare if you hold it long enough. Once the canopy is no longer moving forward you are in a stall. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rustbucket350 41 #3 June 8, 2022 That's what I thought. Last jump I held my practice flare until I felt it deflate and gently released. It went into a forward dive, picked up speed, and recovered. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deisel 38 #4 June 8, 2022 Yep, that's the stall recovery arc. Good habit to practice up high as it helps you learn the canopy's performance envelope. Next time, take note of the altitudes you begin and end the recovery. This moves you from feeling what he canopy can do, to knowing exactly what the canopy does. And keep in mind that these performance qualities will change based on the quality of your equipment. I.e. a new line set will flare very differently than an old worn out one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rustbucket350 41 #5 June 8, 2022 Awesome. I really want to take a canopy course after AFF. Love flying the canopy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deimian 43 #6 June 8, 2022 (edited) Be careful with stall practices. Stalling with rear risers happens quickly but recovers for the most part gently. Stalling with toggles takes normally longer, but the recovery can be more problematic and through you in a spin/twists if done asymmetrically. You don't want that close to the ground. Edited June 8, 2022 by Deimian Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rustbucket350 41 #7 June 8, 2022 No I definitely do not want that close to the ground. When I did it it was above 3000. I'd like to keep it above 2500. My instructor on that jump was really cool since aff you're supposed to be getting off the radio. He asked how I felt about the canopy before we got in the plane and I said I feel good. As long as its got its shape, it's stable, and steerable. He said good. I want to let you fly it. So he gave input over radio to do turns and such. He said give me a 90 left. 90 left. More, more, keep doing that right there. Then he said give me a 90 right. Hold. 90 more give it more, more, ok come in Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rustbucket350 41 #8 June 8, 2022 When I did come in it was late and I knew I wasn't going to make a perfect pattern. What I did was a nice slow 180 from 190 feet (watching my altimeter for the descent rate). Then landed square in front of him. Beautiful. Slid the landing in but that's whatever. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,444 #9 June 8, 2022 55 minutes ago, Rustbucket350 said: When I did come in it was late and I knew I wasn't going to make a perfect pattern. What I did was a nice slow 180 from 190 feet (watching my altimeter for the descent rate). Then landed square in front of him. Beautiful. Slid the landing in but that's whatever. Did you walk away smiling? That's generally a good jump... Wendy P. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rustbucket350 41 #10 June 8, 2022 9 minutes ago, wmw999 said: Did you walk away smiling? That's generally a good jump... Wendy P. Of course! I just wanted to know what I did with the canopy. More for my own knowledge. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
