stayhigh 2 #1 January 27, 2015 http://www.cnet.com/news/on-a-wingsuit-and-a-prayer-flying-over-the-grand-canyon/Bernie Sanders for President 2016 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FlyingRhenquest 1 #2 January 27, 2015 Ahem "I just flew over the Grand Canyon and boy are my arms tired!"I'm trying to teach myself how to set things on fire with my mind. Hey... is it hot in here? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dpreguy 14 #3 January 27, 2015 The "bends"? Not exactly the best description. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 30 #4 January 27, 2015 dpreguyThe "bends"? Not exactly the best description. Don't worry. They have spare oxygen in their wings.Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DiverMike 5 #5 January 27, 2015 Yes - the "spare oxygen in their wings" is far more indicative of bad journalism than not referring to "the Bends" as Decompression Sickness. For the same reason I jump off a perfectly good diving board. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blis 1 #6 January 27, 2015 "We decided that we liked the idea of getting the maximum performance out of the suit. Those people that you see on YouTube who fly down the cliff are actually flying the suit very badly. You'll always see them with their arms behind them because they have got to fall next to the cliff to follow that terrain. Whereas we're interested in flying as flat as possible so we can go as far as possible. It's high-performance flying." Just wow, really? I have understood that in base flying flat gets you killed becouse you have no margin left, while flying steeper gives you more speed aka margin... Best regards, a stupid noob Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deimian 43 #7 January 27, 2015 Blis"We decided that we liked the idea of getting the maximum performance out of the suit. Those people that you see on YouTube who fly down the cliff are actually flying the suit very badly. You'll always see them with their arms behind them because they have got to fall next to the cliff to follow that terrain. Whereas we're interested in flying as flat as possible so we can go as far as possible. It's high-performance flying." Just wow, really? I have understood that in base flying flat gets you killed becouse you have no margin left, while flying steeper gives you more speed aka margin... Best regards, a stupid noob On that regard I think the article just used bad wording. What I understand is that on proximity flying the jumpers are not flying the wingsuits to their limit, precisely because they need that margin to bail out. "Not flying to the limit" can be (erroneously) reworded to "fly the suit very badly". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Travman 6 #8 January 28, 2015 "Gravity powered gliders"... Not to be confused with those gliders powered by engines... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Croc 0 #9 February 8, 2015 Probably poor journalism rather than poor understanding on the part of the wing suiter. Once I was in a jump plane with a reporter from a local newspaper who rode as an observer, and who was doing a story on skydiving. We all had a good laugh at the ridiculously inaccurate story he wrote and I wrote a letter to the editor to correct an error. (He wrote that all the pilots were unlicensed student pilots.)"Here's a good specimen of my own wisdom. Something is so, except when it isn't so." Charles Fort, commenting on the many contradictions of astronomy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FlyBabeAU 3 #10 February 8, 2015 Its very common to find writers, journalists or even sub editors working over articles who change wording because they think it improves a piece or makes things easier for their readership to understand, and they are often unaware that doing so can substantially change meaning. I've seen it in my work, its irritating as hell if you are ever on the receiving end of it (i.e. were interviewed and see your words completely twisted or altered to publicly state information you never infact said in the first place, and it can be hard to get corrections published.) I've even been in a position of seeing changes made after an article was sent to the subject of the interview for approval before it goes to print, and often subjects are not even given that opportunity to approve copy before its released. Even when journalists mean well, they don't always accurately convey what the person being interviewed said, then add in journalist misunderstanding concepts or technical aspects of whatever subject matter is involved... I agree the article is a fine example of poor journalism. Just as an aside, I think the concept of crossing the Grand Canyon is inspired. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites