TuomoK 0 #1 October 13, 2014 Hi! We have developed a device which could be useful for you. It's pocketable size IP67 classified micro controller developing device which possibles tracking all common sensor datas. Its possible to control via mobile app. Technical specs are followed... Wireless connectivity: 2G Quadband GPRS WLAN BT 4.1 Wired connectivity: Micro USB 2.0 GPIO pins on PCB JTAG on PCB Sensors: 3D Accelerometer A-GPS Location Temperature Humidity Pressure Gyroscope Magnetometer Ambient Light Sensor Form factor: Pocketable size IP67 classification Built-in battery Let us know what you think! Any ideas, comments or propositions. Thank you! -Tuomo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BobParker 0 #2 October 14, 2014 TuomoKIt's pocketable size IP67 classified micro controller developing device which possibles tracking all common sensor datas. Just tell us what it will do for skydivers, in plain english. We're not all engineers... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mamallo 0 #3 October 14, 2014 Hey Tuomo, I'm interested for sure! I was planning on making something with an Arduino board this winter with all those sensors minus the Ambient Light Sensor. Which, for skydivers we really wouldn't need unless it's for a night jump and the screen can be backlit? Would there be a screen? As in, could it be worn as a wrist mount alti? Or would it be used to track and record data to either onboard memory or an SD card? Could it be paired with BT headphones for audible readouts or altitudes, speeds, glides, etc? I see there are GPIO pins that I could mod with... are there plans for making the code pretty open for development? Say, could I add some sort of audio board to go along with this so I could plug in headphones? Could I add in lights to blink with certain statuses?https://www.instagram.com/nikkomamallo/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yuri_base 1 #4 October 14, 2014 TuomoK - YES, I'm always interested in wireless sensors for smartphones and adding support for them in L/D Magic. What's the update rate of the GPS? (I need at least 5Hz, but 10Hz or higher would be awesome.) And what's the price estimate? Here's another inexpensive Bluetooth sensor that has 6 sensors (temperature, humidity, pressure, accelerometer, gyroscope and magnetometer): Texas Instruments SensorTag Alas, it doesn't have a GPS... yet. But the way things are going, smartphones are becoming the centers of computing universe - everybody has them, upgrades them, they have powerful processors and beautiful screens, so the need for external sensors is huge and we see more and more low energy wireless sensors introduced. And while smartdevices themselves have sensors, in many applications it's often best (or only option) to have external sensors. For example, at least some smartphones (ALL iPhones) have GPS that is not usable in freefall - they have such a heavy smoothing/data massaging that they respond to rapid changes in altitude with a huge lag - I land yet it shows I'm still thousands of feet in the air and continue flying for a minute or two. iPhone's internal GPS is not usable at all for freefall data collection/analysis.Android+Wear/iOS/Windows apps: L/D Vario, Smart Altimeter, Rockdrop Pro, Wingsuit FAP iOS only: L/D Magic Windows only: WS Studio Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TuomoK 0 #5 October 16, 2014 Hi! Thank you for your messages! Sorry about reply latency. I'll try to answer all questions you have asked. :) First, shortly about the device: There is all features I listed before built-in inside of beautiful IP67 classified covers. IP67 means that its dust and water resistant. 30min in 1m depth. Size of the device is ~ 120 x 60 x 18 mm. There will be two-way communication between the device, web server and mobile app. You can configure your device via mobile app. There is no indication led, but display can be used in this use case. Device has 128 x 64 pixels OLED display, so its possible use limited spot of pixels to act like indication led and it's very energy efficient. GPS: I can't surely say what will be highest reporting rate but it should be at least that 5Hz. I'll be back with this when we got more exact information. BT: We have BT LE 4.1 so it is possible that we have some kind of support for audio routing. Same as in the previous answer I'll be back as soon as we have this information for sure. We will offer open source SDK and APIs and all common interface protocols are supported. We will communicate the price in couple next weeks. I'll be back right away when I have some more exact information to share. Thanks, we are happy to have you to join our journey! -t Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hellis 0 #6 October 16, 2014 Sounds interesting, but with all those gadgets and a screen what is the batterytime on it? Does it have any way of recording it's information or perhaps sent by bluetooth to the phone and recorded there? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Arvoitus 1 #7 October 16, 2014 How is the reading from the barometric sensor affected by the water proofing/resistance?Your rights end where my feelings begin. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TuomoK 0 #8 October 20, 2014 Battery life is expected to be from 2 weeks up to 12 month depended on usage. User will have access to power management to limit power consumption. For the data recording there is microSD slot on PCB. Cover has openings for barometric sensors. We should have SW specs available later on this month an d I will share it with you right away. It would be great to have contacts who are interested to develop skydiving related applications on this system. We will provide all our expertise to help you on your work. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yuri_base 1 #9 October 20, 2014 TuomoKIt would be great to have contacts who are interested to develop skydiving related applications on this system. We will provide all our expertise to help you on your work. Tuomo, shoot me an email at ldmagicapp (this is a gmail) YuriAndroid+Wear/iOS/Windows apps: L/D Vario, Smart Altimeter, Rockdrop Pro, Wingsuit FAP iOS only: L/D Magic Windows only: WS Studio Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TuomoK 0 #10 November 10, 2014 Hi all! After couple of busy weeks we finally have released our web page. Go and check http://www.thingsee.com/ I truly believe this would be useful device for sky divers so please share this with your friends and make this happen with us. Also check https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/haltian/thingsee-one-the-smart-developer-device-for-mobile?ref=nav_search Thank you! -Tuomo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hellis 0 #11 November 10, 2014 TuomoKHi all! After couple of busy weeks we finally have released our web page. Go and check http://www.thingsee.com/ I truly believe this would be useful device for sky divers so please share this with your friends and make this happen with us. Also check https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/haltian/thingsee-one-the-smart-developer-device-for-mobile?ref=nav_search Thank you! -Tuomo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TuomoK 0 #12 November 19, 2014 Hi! Thingsee One has had great interest among the skydivers. Do you have any suggestions where we can spread the word about this to make this happen? BR Tuomo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hellis 0 #13 November 19, 2014 TuomoK Hi! Thingsee One has had great interest among the skydivers. Do you have any suggestions where we can spread the word about this to make this happen? BR Tuomo I believe you are at the correct place. The problem is that I don't think there is enough skydivers that would buy one. You have to be a nerd to buy one And as you might aready know, I'm a backer Your second best webpage to get skydivers attention is probably www.basejumper.com, some of them don't come here at all. Good luck with the campain! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TuomoK 0 #14 November 26, 2014 Hi! I'm still thinking how to post on basejumper forum without getting banned right away. But... Here is something cool our fans made for us! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ey-BSZTeIQ8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6HEs83ud1w -t Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hellis 0 #15 November 26, 2014 TuomoKHi! I'm still thinking how to post on basejumper forum without getting banned right away. But... Here is something cool our fans made for us! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ey-BSZTeIQ8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6HEs83ud1w -t I see... This is the idea I would have posted on twitter if I only had a twitteraccount to enter your competition. A smart emergency device. The Thingsee one can detect so many things that it can be used as a device to monitor the jumper and see if he is OK or not. And if not take actions. Imagine at the exitpoint you "arm" the device by shaking it and the display says "ready". At this point the device monitors your location and altitude and waits for you to jump. If you have moved more than, say 5 m horizontaly or 10 m vertical, the device will notice that you have jumped. Then it will monitor your altitude, and if your altitude is the same for 5 seconds the jumper has made contact with something. Now we need to know if the jumper is OK or injured (or worse). There is no check-if-alive monitor on the Thingsee, but we can monitor movements. So.. This starts a countdown timer in the Thingsee (and on the display) and counts down from 20 seconds. If the user has not deactivating the countdown by shakeing (or other way of deactivating it) the Thingsee it will send out a sms with a googlemaps link to the GPS location the jumper is at. You could perhaps (if possible) look at the data at the time of landing and if the landing was hard the Thingsee should skip the countdown timer. I bet this idea and use of the Thingsee will catch their attention. Especially those who wingsuit BASE because even if their flightplan is known by others the flight can be several kilometers long. And just searching a 50 m wide area of a 2 km long flight over dense forrest is quite a task. When I made my 8 or 9th BASE jump I meet a guy in Italy that a few months later was "missing" after a wingsuit jump. It took almost two months before they found him. This idea/device may or may not have helped. But if the Thingsee survives the impact it might just help enough. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TuomoK 0 #16 November 27, 2014 Creating our campaign wasn't always that successful. ;) https://www.reddit.com/r/tifu/related/2ncv6i/tifu_by_accidentally_violating_russian_airspace/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TuomoK 0 #17 November 28, 2014 You are right Hellis about that security thing. Thingsee One is able to set alarm automatically and send position data when some defined value triggers e.g. accelerometer senses hitting to the ground. I have tried to contact people who are responsible of arranging basejump events without reaction so far. Maybe you can help us to get our message through. -Tuomo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites