jaybird18c 24 #126 August 26, 2023 1 minute ago, gowlerk said: When you told us that we are "in trouble" for saying we don't believe. Shove it. You can believe whatever you want. I’m just saying you’ve got trouble coming. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,241 #127 August 26, 2023 7 minutes ago, jaybird18c said: You can believe whatever you want. I’m just saying you’ve got trouble coming. Keep it to yourself unless someone asks you. It's none of your business. Do you believe in democracy or would you rather live in a "christian" theocratic state? Did you fight for freedom or for Christ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaybird18c 24 #128 August 26, 2023 1 minute ago, gowlerk said: Keep it to yourself unless someone asks you. It's none of your business. Do you believe in democracy or would you rather live in a "christian" theocratic state? Did you fight for freedom or for Christ? I thought this was Speaker’s Corner. Why should you or I have to keep our thoughts to ourselves? Free speech, right? I believe in our republic, not true democracy. True democracy is mob rule. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 843 #129 August 26, 2023 18 minutes ago, jaybird18c said: You can believe whatever you want. I’m just saying you’ve got trouble coming. And there's the threat. As expected. Every god damn time. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaybird18c 24 #130 August 26, 2023 1 minute ago, normiss said: And there's the threat. As expected. Every god damn time. You worried bro? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 843 #131 August 26, 2023 1 minute ago, jaybird18c said: You worried bro? Not in the least. Why you? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaybird18c 24 #132 August 26, 2023 Just now, normiss said: Not in the least. Why you? Why would I be? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lippy 918 #133 August 26, 2023 1 minute ago, jaybird18c said: You worried bro? Here’s my $0.02, for what it’s worth….if your faith makes your life better and you wanna share that then fill your fucking boots, I’m happy for you. If you want to start telling me I’m going to burn for eternity because I don’t believe in your imaginary friend, I’m happy to write you off as a person worth giving another minute of my time. 9 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 843 #134 August 26, 2023 3 minutes ago, jaybird18c said: Why would I be? Because as you yourself said, if you don't believe, you've got trouble coming. So why you worried? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,241 #135 August 26, 2023 9 minutes ago, jaybird18c said: I thought this was Speaker’s Corner. Why should you or I have to keep our thoughts to ourselves? Free speech, right? I believe in our republic, not true democracy. True democracy is mob rule. Would you rather live in a theocracy? Speaker's corner is mob rule within limits. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaybird18c 24 #136 August 26, 2023 Good night. Until tomorrow. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,556 #137 August 26, 2023 3 hours ago, jaybird18c said: Why would I be? If there is a god who actually values morality and goodness, and you’ve spent your whole life loudly telling everyone he’s a narcissistic psychopath, he might not be too happy with you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,806 #138 August 26, 2023 3 hours ago, jaybird18c said: Good night. Until tomorrow. You wont be here tomorrow. You have nothing in a real world conversation and you know it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaybird18c 24 #139 August 26, 2023 4 hours ago, JoeWeber said: You wont be here tomorrow. You have nothing in a real world conversation and you know it. Good morning! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,514 #140 August 26, 2023 And a good morning to you. I’m sitting out on a dock, looking at a pond, so it is a good morning Wendy P. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 1,149 #141 August 26, 2023 9 hours ago, jaybird18c said: .... I believe in our republic, not true democracy. True democracy is mob rule. So your constitution is fatally flawed then. Because it lays out the construction of a democracy and has checks and balances to eliminate mob rule.To sanction mob rule. Why does your god threaten people with hell who have led otherwise proper and perhaps pious lives without your god.? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,523 #142 August 26, 2023 7 minutes ago, Phil1111 said: Why does your god threaten people with hell who have led otherwise proper and perhaps pious lives without your god.? I have yet to see or hear God do ANY of the 'threatening'. It's always the 'true believers'. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaybird18c 24 #143 August 26, 2023 9 hours ago, normiss said: Because as you yourself said, if you don't believe, you've got trouble coming. So why you worried? Did you get the impression that I was an unbeliever? Your statement doesn't make sense. I'm not at all worried. I have legal representation. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaybird18c 24 #144 August 26, 2023 9 hours ago, gowlerk said: Would you rather live in a theocracy? Speaker's corner is mob rule within limits. I would not wish to live in a theocracy. I prefer the constitutional republic that we have. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaybird18c 24 #145 August 26, 2023 6 hours ago, jakee said: If there is a god who actually values morality and goodness, and you’ve spent your whole life loudly telling everyone he’s a narcissistic psychopath, he might not be too happy with you. Did I say God was a narcissistic psychopath? Ensuring justice is done is a good thing. Don't blame God for your actions. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaybird18c 24 #146 August 26, 2023 40 minutes ago, Phil1111 said: So your constitution is fatally flawed then. Because it lays out the construction of a democracy and has checks and balances to eliminate mob rule.To sanction mob rule. Why does your god threaten people with hell who have led otherwise proper and perhaps pious lives without your god.? The United States is a democratic form of government. However, it is not a democracy. It is a republic. There's a big difference. Who has led a proper and pious life according to God's standard of righteousness, which is the one you will ultimately be judged by, one without even an once of selfishness, pride, covetousness, hatred, adultery, lies, etc.? I think you're confusing yourself with God. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,241 #147 August 26, 2023 8 minutes ago, jaybird18c said: Did you get the impression that I was an unbeliever? Your statement doesn't make sense. I'm not at all worried. I have legal representation. You may be a believer, but are you a true believer? There are many flavours of belief even within each of the major religions. God may not care but so many of Her children are willing to hate and even kill each other over theology. Religion can be quite a force for evil. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,514 #148 August 26, 2023 8 minutes ago, jaybird18c said: I would not wish to live in a theocracy. I prefer the constitutional republic that we have. However, that constitutional republic uses democratic elections to select most leaders. According to its constitution. If people who don’t share your religious and political values outvote your, is that valid? And what differentiates it from “mob rule?” Because sometimes they will Wendy P. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,241 #149 August 26, 2023 6 minutes ago, jaybird18c said: Don't blame God for your actions. This we can agree on. Blaming god is simply false for obvious reasons. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,556 #150 August 26, 2023 5 minutes ago, jaybird18c said: Did I say God was a narcissistic psychopath? Ensuring justice is done is a good thing. Yes. Hating people simply for not believing he existed would be textbook narcissism. Punishing people for all eternity covers the second part. 7 minutes ago, jaybird18c said: Don't blame God for your actions. This is why you’ll never be able to persuade a non-believer of anything at all - you don’t even understand the terms of the conversation. Atheists don’t blame god for anything. If we did, we would be theists. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites