wmw999 2,514 #101 August 25, 2023 He’s a veteran, very possibly a combat veteran if I recall at. Very different thing. Really. Wendy P. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,241 #102 August 25, 2023 19 minutes ago, jaybird18c said: It explains that anyone who says there is no God has a really big problem, regardless of whether or not they believe it. There is no god. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaybird18c 24 #103 August 25, 2023 3 minutes ago, gowlerk said: There is no god. There is no you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,556 #104 August 25, 2023 12 minutes ago, wmw999 said: He’s a veteran, very possibly a combat veteran if I recall at. Very different thing. Really. Did god say that? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaybird18c 24 #105 August 25, 2023 1 minute ago, jakee said: Did god say that? Why? Are you hearing voices? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,556 #106 August 25, 2023 28 minutes ago, jaybird18c said: It explains that anyone who says there is no God has a really big problem, regardless of whether or not they believe it. No, it explains how messed up your belief system is. On some level I respect that you're not sugar coating it, but ultimately you're stil describing something that is petty, amoral and extremely nasty. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,556 #107 August 25, 2023 3 minutes ago, jaybird18c said: Why? Are you hearing voices? Ha! What's wrong? You normally last a lot longer before having a meltdown. Hope everything's ok with you :) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,807 #108 August 25, 2023 16 minutes ago, jaybird18c said: I do not believe that nations ruled by imperfect beings always act in accordance with God’s will. Therefore, I would answer not necessarily. Are you referring your nations imperfect rulers and their identified enemies? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,807 #109 August 25, 2023 (edited) 20 minutes ago, wmw999 said: He’s a veteran, very possibly a combat veteran if I recall at. Very different thing. Really. Wendy P. I don’t think so but I’m all eyes to read why you believe, in the context of this conversation, you needed to make the claim. Edited August 25, 2023 by JoeWeber Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaybird18c 24 #110 August 25, 2023 5 minutes ago, JoeWeber said: Are you referring your nations imperfect rulers and their identified enemies? Not necessarily. Just a general statement. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,807 #111 August 25, 2023 3 minutes ago, jaybird18c said: Not necessarily. Just a general statement. Which I take to mean that if you needed to take orders to kill and performed your duty, that as long as you were a true believer your soul would remain pure. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,241 #112 August 25, 2023 26 minutes ago, jaybird18c said: There is no you. Actually there is only me. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,807 #113 August 25, 2023 1 hour ago, jakee said: Ha! What's wrong? You normally last a lot longer before having a meltdown. Hope everything's ok with you :) On the plus side, even if they can’t come up with a straight answer, at least we have the Christians arguing with each other. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 843 #114 August 25, 2023 Over the course of human existence, there have been at least 18,000 "gods". What makes this one so special? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 1,149 #115 August 25, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, jaybird18c said: There is no you. False sense of self, eh? Edited August 25, 2023 by Phil1111 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaybird18c 24 #116 August 26, 2023 6 hours ago, gowlerk said: Actually there is only me. How do you know? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,241 #117 August 26, 2023 3 minutes ago, jaybird18c said: How do you know? Faith of course. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaybird18c 24 #118 August 26, 2023 1 minute ago, gowlerk said: Faith of course. Ha! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,241 #119 August 26, 2023 1 minute ago, jaybird18c said: Ha! Many people make the mistake of thinking I object to other’s religious beliefs. Not true at all. What I object to is the way some people behave. Especially when they try to tell others what they should believe. You are an offender on this front. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaybird18c 24 #120 August 26, 2023 15 minutes ago, gowlerk said: Many people make the mistake of thinking I object to other’s religious beliefs. Not true at all. What I object to is the way some people behave. Especially when they try to tell others what they should believe. You are an offender on this front. When did I tell you what you should believe? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,523 #121 August 26, 2023 7 hours ago, wmw999 said: He’s a veteran, very possibly a combat veteran if I recall at. Very different thing. Really. Wendy P. He CLAIMED TO BE. What he really is remains to be seen. His avatar pic is pretty telling. Hey Jay - I'm still waiting for your 'preponderance of evidence' for the existence of God. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 843 #122 August 26, 2023 1 minute ago, wolfriverjoe said: He CLAIMED TO BE. What he really is remains to be seen. His avatar pic is pretty telling. Hey Jay - I'm still waiting for your 'preponderance of evidence' for the existence of God. T'aint none. Never has been, never will be. For any of them. And if you don't believe that and bow down to them, they will torture you for all eternity. This threat is why I'll never believe. I've never threatened a believer with eternal torture. Damn near every believer I've met has done that to every non-believer. Keep your beliefs to yourself. Stop the veiled threats. Stop trying to force everyone to believe in your own personal insanities. That's my belief. He doesn't have the proof for his beliefs, he never will. That's ok for him. I expect him to mock non-believers though. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaybird18c 24 #123 August 26, 2023 “Keep your beliefs to yourself. Stop the veiled threats. Stop trying to force everyone to believe in your own personal insanities. That's my belief.” Hilarious! Keep your beliefs to yourself! Except mine, of course. That’s my belief! You’d better respect that! Ha! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaybird18c 24 #124 August 26, 2023 19 minutes ago, wolfriverjoe said: He CLAIMED TO BE. What he really is remains to be seen. His avatar pic is pretty telling. Hey Jay - I'm still waiting for your 'preponderance of evidence' for the existence of God. I’ll never have to prove my service to this country to anyone. The guys I was privileged to serve alongside are all the testament I need. De Oppresso Liber Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,241 #125 August 26, 2023 34 minutes ago, jaybird18c said: When did I tell you what you should believe? When you told us that we are "in trouble" for saying we don't believe. Shove it. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
