Nov 2022. Seeking Experienced Opinions on an older Parachute Rig from a Storage Unit Auction.

[F104 Starfighter 6]

 Can anyone tell me about this Rig, if any of the parts are usable and if it has any value? Came from a Storage Unit Auction. 14 Photos available at bottom of page.

Unknown Main Canopy. 

Reserve Canopy, Precision Super Raven, Date of Manufacture May 2000.
Harness and Container, Sunnpath Javelin J3, Date of Manufacture May 2000.
AAD, Cypres Cypres 2, Date of Manufacture April 2008.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[kleggo 145]

cypress is timed out and unuseable = no value

raven may be worth $200 to right buyer

Rig? if the photo showing rusty hardware is indicative of care, I would not use it

only possible value from my perspective is to use it to aeroplane jump /  test a BASE canopy

[skyderrill66 15]

I disagree replace the ripcord and housing rsl and rsl guide rings then wash the container and it would make a great first rig for a new jumper.

[Bicyclejim 0]

Moderators: PLEASE delete the pack data card photos.  There are numbers on there that can be used to steal identities.  

[wmw999 2,534]

Good call. Done

Wendy P.

[JoeWeber 2,823]

2 hours ago, F104 Starfighter said:

 Can anyone tell me about this Rig, if any of the parts are usable and if it has any value? Came from a Storage Unit Auction. 14 Photos available at bottom of page.

Unknown Main Canopy. 

Reserve Canopy, Precision Super Raven, Date of Manufacture May 2000.
Harness and Container, Sunnpath Javelin J3, Date of Manufacture May 2000.
AAD, Cypres Cypres 2, Date of Manufacture April 2008.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Call Ralph.

[chuckakers 426]

3 hours ago, skyderrill66 said:

I disagree replace the ripcord and housing rsl and rsl guide rings then wash the container and it would make a great first rig for a new jumper.

Not a chance. The rig is 23 years old. The OP stated it was purchased at a storage unit auction, most likely meaning it has been exposed to extreme heat, humidity and all around nasty conditions. The main risers aren't even the right brand. It may not even be airworthy after all that is fixed..

Given the cost of the parts, materials, and labor to replace the housings, guide rings, risers, and who knows what else, it simply wouldn't be cost effective.

Good, airworthy containers can often be had for a few hundred bucks. Why would someone pay that much or more to get this relic up to speed - maybe?

[gowlerk 2,249]

Put it on Ebay for $300 for parts.

[riggerrob 643]

That container looks like it was jumped hard in the desert and put away wet. Start by paying a Master Rigger to inspect it. If he/she determines that it needs more than the (rusted) RSL rings replaced, it is probably not worth the cost of repairs. Those rusty rings scare me and compel any rigger to minutely inspect all the hardware, especially where that hardware is hidden by webbing. Any rust in the webbing usually requires replacing the webbing ... an expensive job.

Then it needs a bath.

The Cypres is old enough to retire.

That Raven 181 can only safely be jumped by people who weigh in the 160 pound range ... for a total suspended weight of 181 pounds. Anyone foolish enough to load a Raven at more than 1 pound per square foot should ... invest heavily in medical insurance.

[wolfriverjoe 1,523]

Again?
 

This one is junkier than the last one.

[F104 Starfighter 6]

16 hours ago, Bicyclejim said:

Moderators: PLEASE delete the pack data card photos.  There are numbers on there that can be used to steal identities.  

What in the photos showing the paper cards needs to be deleted? Is it the owners name, address and phone number? Is all the other information on the paper ok to be posted?

[wmw999 2,534]

Some riggers put their social security number onto the packing data card.

Wendy P. 

[wolfriverjoe 1,523]

8 hours ago, wmw999 said:

Some riggers put their social security number onto the packing data card.

Wendy P. 

In the old days, FAA certificate numbers were Social Security numbers.

Riggers put their Cert number on the packing data cards. Instructors put their Cert numbers in student logbooks.
The FAA stopped doing that and issued new numbers once identity theft took off. 

[riggerrob 643]

That reminds me of an old Wonderhog that showed up at Perris Valley, California circa 200. Since manifest always sent visiting jumpers to Square One's loft, I (as the rigger on duty that day) did a quick external inspection along with confirming that the packing data card was in date, etc.

The rig was from out of state. It had no AAD and still contained a round reserve, but scariest thing was its military-surplus, anti-wind, blast handle. Because of hard pulls - when pulling at the wrong angle - both CSPA and USPA had banned those metal reserve ripcord handles long before I earned my first rigging certificate in 1984. USPA had banned blast handles for many years, but eventually dropped that BSR (?) after they disappeared from most American DZs. USPA dropped the BSR to avoid cluttering their BSRs with trivia about obsolete equipment.

Anyways, this visiting jumper adamantly insisted that it was his god-given right to jump a blast handle. After a half-hour of debate (including the visiting jumper, an instructor from PV Skydiving School and myself) he still insisted that he wanted to jump with his blast handle. I even offered to install a more modern D-handle ripcord for free and he still refused. Eventually, the instructor and I quit in frustration.

The visiting jumper reminded me of modern "sovereign citizens" who insist long and loud about their god-given right to operate differently than the rest of society.

GRRRRRRRR!

[HermanWilkinson 0]

On 11/14/2022 at 3:31 AM, F104 Starfighter said:

 Can anyone tell me about this Rig, if any of the parts are usable and if it has any value? Came from a Storage Unit Auction. 14 Photos available at bottom of page.

Unknown Main Canopy. 

Reserve Canopy, Precision Super Raven, Date of Manufacture May 2000.
Harness and Container, Sunnpath Javelin J3, Date of Manufacture May 2000.
AAD, Cypres Cypres 2, Date of Manufacture April 2008.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

What price is in your mind? It can be worth 200$ to 300$ not more. That is my opinion.

[riggerrob 643]

10 hours ago, riggerrob said:

That reminds me of an old Wonderhog that showed up at Perris Valley, California circa 2000.