Germany bulldozers wind farm to expand……

[brenthutch 444]

A COAL MINE. 

https://balkangreenenergynews.com/wind-farm-in-germany-is-being-dismantled-to-expand-coal-mine/

Now in order to comply with Wendy’s strict compliance standard (for me) I now must now make an additional comment.

er um..(clears throat)…I find this development to be…uh…what’s the word….IRONIC!  Yes that’s it ironic.

Ironic and hysterical.

[billvon 2,990]

13 minutes ago, brenthutch said:

er um..(clears throat)…I find this development to be…uh…what’s the word….IRONIC!  Yes that’s it ironic.

I don't.  Putin just blew up the natural gas pipelines that feed Europe.  Everyone is scrambling to find alternative fossil sources.  I'd be surprised if they WEREN'T expanding mining (and oil drilling, and natural gas transport.)

And new renewable sources.  This summer Germany passed a law that will see 10 gigawatts of wind a year installed.

https://windeurope.org/newsroom/news/10-gw-of-new-wind-farms-a-year-german-parliament-adopts-new-onshore-wind-law/

[riggerrob 643]

The dismantled wing turbine was built in 2001, hence 21 years old. Wind turbines only have a 30 or 40 year service life.

[brenthutch 444]

40 minutes ago, riggerrob said:

The dismantled wing turbine was built in 2001, hence 21 years old. Wind turbines only have a 30 or 40 year service life.

So it still had around ten to twenty years to go and instead of replacing them with newer, larger and more efficient windmills they opted for a lignite coal mine.

Edited December 7, 2022 by brenthutch

[brenthutch 444]

1 hour ago, billvon said:

I don't.  Putin just blew up the natural gas pipelines that feed Europe.  

I thought it was the British.  If Russia wanted to cut supply to Europe, they could just turn off the spigot at their end.  The destruction of the pipeline had the effect of weakening Russia’s bargaining power and helped to keep Germany from getting wobbly.

[billvon 2,990]

40 minutes ago, brenthutch said:

I thought it was the British.

Nope.  Russian warships parked themselves over the pipelines right before they blew.   Putin decided to make the West suffer for their defense of Ukraine. 

[gowlerk 2,190]

5 minutes ago, billvon said:

Nope.  Russian warships parked themselves over the pipelines right before they blew.   Putin decided to make the West suffer for their defense of Ukraine. 

The man is so full of spite I doubt if he even has a nose anymore.

[brenthutch 444]

44 minutes ago, billvon said:

Nope.  Russian warships parked themselves over the pipelines right before they blew.   Putin decided to make the West suffer for their defense of Ukraine. 

Evidence? Putin could have done the same thing by feigning maintenance issues shutting off the gas and blaming the West for its embargo of Russia. Why would Germany cave to Russian pressure, if Russia was unable to restore gas flows.

Russia blowing up its pipeline is like a kidnapper shooting the hostages during negotiations.

Edited December 7, 2022 by brenthutch

[SkyDekker 1,465]

23 hours ago, brenthutch said:

Russia blowing up its pipeline is like a kidnapper shooting the hostages during negotiations.

Yeah, that has like never happened.

[billvon 2,990]

On 12/7/2022 at 11:38 AM, brenthutch said:

Evidence?

Satellite pictures show two ships with their transponders turned off parked right over the pipeline just before the explosion.  EU security officials confirmed them to be Russian ships, along with Russian submarines operating a few days earlier.

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Putin could have done the same thing by feigning maintenance issues shutting off the gas and blaming the West for its embargo of Russia.

This way he can blame the victims.  Which he is doing.

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Russia blowing up its pipeline is like a kidnapper shooting the hostages during negotiations.

Yes.  Irrational kidnapers do that all the time.

[wolfriverjoe 1,523]

1 hour ago, billvon said:

 

This way he can blame the victims.  Which he is doing.

 

And his supporters (the fools and idiots) are backing him up.

[gowlerk 2,190]

14 minutes ago, wolfriverjoe said:

And his supporters (the fools and idiots) are backing him up.

Well, I guess they have to. Either that or stay away from tall buildings and windows. 

[wolfriverjoe 1,523]

2 hours ago, gowlerk said:

Well, I guess they have to. Either that or stay away from tall buildings and windows. 

In Russia, sure. 

But Putin has his supporters everywhere. 

Even on here, where certain people are pretending Putin didn't sabotage the pipeline.

Or maybe 'just asking questions'. 

You know, the old "I don't actually support Putin, but I'm going to ask anyone who says something mean about him for 'evidence'. 'Cuz I don't believe he did ANY of that."

[brenthutch 444]

On 12/7/2022 at 2:19 PM, gowlerk said:

The man is so full of spite I doubt if he even has a nose anymore.

Mirth is not spelled s p i t e.

[billvon 2,990]

In real news:

Five new wind farms are coming to California's waters in the near future.  The auction for the leases generated almost a billion dollars for the US government, and offshore wind peaks right at sunset when power demands are greatest.  Win-win.

https://www.mercurynews.com/2022/12/07/five-companies-win-california-offshore-wind-energy-leases/

In New Jersey, a coal fired power plant was demolished to make room for a battery array that will provide more peak power than the coal plant did, improving grid reliability.  It will save customers $30 million over the next two years.  Win/win.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/coal-fired-plant-imploded-in-new-jersey-for-battery-array/ar-AA14O6BJ#comments

Natural gas will make up approximately 38% of US generation in 2022.  In 2023 that is predicted to drop to 36% as renewables generate more and more, and that trend is likely to continue as cheaper renewables let utilities stop buying expensive natural gas.  This will have the side effect of reducing natural gas demand, thus reducing homeowners' energy bills for gas.  Win/win.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/natural-gas-power-plants-begin-their-inevitable-decline/ar-AA13Cv4E

 

[wmw999 2,444]

26 minutes ago, brenthutch said:

Mirth is not spelled s p i t e.

Neither is deliberate cluelessness.

Wendy P.

[brenthutch 444]

15 hours ago, wmw999 said:

Neither is deliberate cluelessness.

Wendy P.

Is that a personal attack Wendy?  Hardly setting a positive example.

[lippy 918]

15 minutes ago, brenthutch said:

Is that a personal attack Wendy?  Hardly setting a positive example.

Not that Wendy needs me or anybody else to defend her, but calling you out for your incessantly playing dumb isn't a personal attack.  Stop trolling and people will stop calling you a troll.  I know you're smart enough to figure that out.

[ryoder 1,590]

1 hour ago, lippy said:

Not that Wendy needs me or anybody else to defend her, but calling you out for your incessantly playing dumb isn't a personal attack.  Stop trolling and people will stop calling you a troll.  I know you're smart enough to figure that out.

Optimism is a wonderful thing.

[lippy 918]

10 minutes ago, ryoder said:

Optimism is a wonderful thing.

I said he's smart enough to figure it out...I don't think there's a snowball's chance in Miami that he'll actually change.

[JoeWeber 2,720]

18 hours ago, wmw999 said:

Neither is deliberate cluelessness.

Wendy P.

Your one warning: you don't do that enough!.