billvon 3,078 #1 Posted July 11, 2023 There is a growing movement among Christians to maintain their faith - but to leave their church. As of 2017, 10% of the Christians in America are "dechurched" i.e. they still believe in the precepts of Christianity but no longer want to be associated with their (or any) church. A Medium article seeks to explain this phenomenon. In it, the author lists several barriers that Christians see between them and an established church. These include: Normalization. Most Christian churches place women in subservient roles within the church, and many women do not want to associate with an organization that sets a model for their daughters that they are the subservient sex. (And in fact women are leaving churches faster than men.) Politics. Many Christians can no longer stomach the alignment between Christian churches and right wing politics. The author describes Christians who "walk away from the church because they can’t reconcile why the church supports political parties that want to build economic wealth while turning away the refugee and oppressing the minority." Sexuality. Only heteronormative people are really accepted by churches these days. That of course excludes gay, trans and nonbinary people, and these people are leaving in droves. In addition, as LGBT barriers are slowly broken down, even straight cis Christians are realizing that they have friends and family who are LGBT - and they do not want to participate in a church that treats them as lepers. Anyway, good read below. https://medium.com/backyard-theology/the-rise-of-churchless-christians-c16dfc8452c3 https://www.barna.com/research/meet-love-jesus-not-church/ 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
timski 80 #2 July 11, 2023 But Bill, you failed to mention the HISTORY... It's a little deeper than perverts within... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #3 July 12, 2023 (edited) I agree with your initial premise but the points mentioned are foreign to me. The Christian conferences I have attended believe the Covid lockdown was the primary reason. In my experience that holds true for right-wing veterans groups also. Scripture teaches that the great apostasy will occur in the last days. Is this just prophecy being fulfilled? "Church is not a building you go to, but a family you belong to." Jesus knows those who are His and listen to His voice. Edited July 12, 2023 by RonD1120 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,078 #4 July 12, 2023 23 minutes ago, RonD1120 said: Scripture teaches that the great apostasy will occur in the last days. Is this just prophecy being fulfilled? ?? No. The opposite. Apostatsy is abandoning of one's faith. Keeping to one's faith (say, in Jesus) but leaving a church that no longer expresses those values is the opposite of apostasy. You said it yourself: Quote "Church is not a building you go to, but a family you belong to." Jesus knows those who are His and listen to His voice. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 858 #5 July 12, 2023 1 hour ago, RonD1120 said: I agree with your initial premise but the points mentioned are foreign to me. The Christian conferences I have attended believe the Covid lockdown was the primary reason. In my experience that holds true for right-wing veterans groups also. Scripture teaches that the great apostasy will occur in the last days. Is this just prophecy being fulfilled? "Church is not a building you go to, but a family you belong to." Jesus knows those who are His and listen to His voice. The non-Q veterans I know, and the groups we belong to, are in complete disagreement with you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,445 #6 July 12, 2023 53 minutes ago, normiss said: The non-Q veterans I know, and the groups we belong to, are in complete disagreement with you. Hi Mark, ^^^^ Is the big difference. Jerry Baumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,078 #7 July 16, 2023 To present both sides, there ARE some churches that are not so exclusionary and right-wing. Kudos to them. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites