GOP wants to "extinguish the left"

[RonD1120 62]

56 minutes ago, kallend said:

You don't have a gift of the spirit, you just have an ability to disregard any and all facts that don't jibe with your prejudices..

Try re-reading the Ten Commandments and Matthew 5 - 7 and asking yourself HONESTLY how your hero shapes up.

My point is that it is neither GOP or liberal Democrat. It is principalities and powers and spiritual wickedness. 

My hero is Jesus the Christ and the apostle Paul in this context. 

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1 hour ago, RonD1120 said:

See where this is going. Tit for tat or one upsmanship.

You seem to have two standard responses:

A liberal does something bad.  "This is hard evidence that liberals are evil.  Period.  You ignore the evidence of your own eyes."
A conservative does something bad.  "Well, it's just tit for tat.  Both sides do bad things.  Why do you always do this?  It's not helpful."

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I operate with the gifts of the Spirit, as to the best of my ability. See 1Cor:1

And I try to operate using the example of Jesus - which means doing pretty much the opposite of what conservatives do.

How many illegal immigrants would Jesus arrest and jail?
Who would Jesus ban from Christianity?
How many times would Jesus shoot a thief, and what sort of semiautomatic weapon would he use?
Where would Jesus railroad homeless people to?

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11 minutes ago, billvon said:

How many illegal immigrants would Jesus arrest and jail?

Are not all people brothers and sisters?

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4 hours ago, RonD1120 said:

See where this is going. Tit for tat or one upsmanship.

You can lead a liberal to water but first they have to analyze it to see if it is wet.

I operate with the gifts of the Spirit, as to the best of my ability. See 1Cor:12.

So, as usual, you are completely ignoring the actual question.

One more time, WHAT EVIL DID OBAMA OR BIDEN DO??

You can ask a "God fearing Christian a question, but don't expect an answer that is anything other than evasion".

3 hours ago, RonD1120 said:

My point is that it is neither GOP or liberal Democrat. It is principalities and powers and spiritual wickedness. 

My hero is Jesus the Christ and the apostle Paul in this context. 

You are at least sort of close to the problem here.

"Principalities and powers" doing evil. You know, the people that want to ban books, hurt people who are different, lie about the past, subjugate women, that sort of thing.

Funny how those are almost exclusively 'conservatives' these days.

Funny how few of them actually follow the principles set down by Jesus.

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4 hours ago, JerryBaumchen said:

Hi Ron,

So, where is your response?

Jerry Baumchen

Hey Jerry,

He doesn't have one. There is no logical, factual response to this being that talks nonsense to him. The troll bot farms also have no response, it is their way or death. 

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11 hours ago, RonD1120 said:

My point is that it is neither GOP or liberal Democrat. It is principalities and powers and spiritual wickedness.

And yet you always support the GOP and always attack liberal Democrats. So it’s kinda hard to believe that your point is what you say it is. 

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18 hours ago, billvon said:

...How many illegal immigrants would Jesus arrest and jail?...

All of them.

If and when they reach the pearly gates if they were innocent and white they'd be allowed entrance.

For doubters"White Evangelicals, For this cultural group, militant masculinity trumps(no pun intended) the Bible."

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1 hour ago, Phil1111 said:

All of them.

If and when they reach the pearly gates if they were innocent and white they'd be allowed entrance.

For doubters"White Evangelicals, For this cultural group, militant masculinity trumps(no pun intended) the Bible."

I've posted this before, but it's pretty relevant for this topic.

In Neal Stephenson's book Fall, there is a part of America called Ameristan where infidels are still crucified for things like wearing cotton/polyester blends or being gay.  They still rely on the reality based parts of the country for things like antibiotics and surgery, but maintain that they are the real US; they claim that the rest of the country has abandoned the Second Amendment so they're not really part of the US any more.  They stockpile guns and ammunition and build burning crosses.  (Crosses, that they insist, are NOT like the KKK.)

In this excerpt, a bunch of recent college graduates comes across a massive steel cross that the Leviticans will soon light on fire.  They ask a priest of this new Christianity what's going on.  (Edited to reduce length)

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“Now, let me take the bull by the horns as far as the KKK Libel." Ted had returned from inspecting the lambs. "Obviously you are not a white person, at least not one hundred percent, and I don't know about him." He cast a glance over at Julian, who was down on one knee feeding a handful of grass through the chicken wire to a lamb. Julian was part Chinese. "There's been all kinds of confusion about us Leviticans.  Some kind of imagined link to the Ku Klux Klan."

"Maybe it's because of the burning crosses," Phil suggested, deadpan, gazing across a few yards of gravel to the massive concrete foundation from which the cross's steel verticals erupted.

"Supposedly the KKK burned crosses," Ted said with a roll of the eyes.

“There's no 'supposedly' about it," Anne-Solenne started in. "What are you even—that's like saying supposedly Muhammad Ali was a boxer. Supposedly Ford makes cars. It's—" But Sophia silenced her with a hand on the arm. There was no point.

"If that is even true, it has no connection to our burning crosses, which have a completely different significance.  So-called Christianity, as it existed up until recently, is based on a big lie - the most successful conspiracy of all time. And it was all summed up in the symbolism of the cross. Every cross you see on a mainstream church, or worn as jewelry, or on a rosary or what have you, is another repetition of that lie."

"And what is that lie exactly?" Phil asked.

"That Jesus was crucified.  That the Son of God, the most powerful incarnate being in the history of the universe, allowed Himself to be scourged and humiliated and taken out in the most disgraceful way you can imagine."

"Taken out' means 'murdered'?" Anne-Solenne asked. It was a rhetorical question that Ted answered with the tiniest hint of a nod.

"The church that was built on the lie of the Crucifixion had two basic tenets. One was the lovey-dovey Jesus who went around being nice to people—basically, just the kind of behavior you would expect from the kind of beta who would allow himself to be spat on, to be nailed to a piece of wood. The second was this notion that the Old Testament no longer counted for anything, that the laws laid down in Leviticus were part of an old covenant that could simply be ignored after, and because, he was nailed up on that cross. We have exposed all that as garbage. Nonsense. A conspiracy by the elites to keep people meek and passive. The only crosses you'll see in our church are on fire, and the symbolism of that has nothing to do with the KKK. It means we reject the false church that was built upon the myth of the Crucifixion."

"So, to be clear, all Christianity for the last two thousand years—Catholic, Protestant, Orthodox, evangelical—is just flat-out wrong," Phil said.

"That is correct.  That's the first thing the church did, was enshrine all those gospels. Telling the story they wanted to tell. About the meek liberal Jesus who gave food away to poor people and healed the sick and so on."

"And was crucified and ... resurrected?" Anne-Solenne asked.

"They needed some way to explain the fact that He was still alive, so they invented all that resurrection stuff."

"So where'd Jesus go after that? What did He do?"

"Fought the Romans. Went back and forth between this world and heaven. He has the power to do that."

"Where is He now?"

"We don't know! Maybe here. He has been in eclipse for two thousand years. The conspiracy of the church was powerful. They staged a fake Reformation to get people to believe that reform was possible. All a show. Orchestrated from the Vatican."

"So, Martin Luther was running a false-flag operation for the Pope," Phil said. "In that case—" But he broke off as he felt Sophia stepping on his toe, under the table. He looked down at her. Having caught his eye, she panned her gaze across the entire scene, asking him to take it all in. Reminding him that this wasn't Princeton. This was Ameristan. Facebooked to the molecular level.

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On 7/15/2023 at 7:55 AM, JoeWeber said:

Please explain because I cannot see what you see and that's a fact. Not in broad, general terms but specifically what each has individually done that is evil. Just the top 3-5 offenses each if you don't mind.

Or maybe if you want a more positive spin on thing, name 3 things Trump has done that Jesus would approve of?

[JerryBaumchen 1,442]

Hi folks,

Looks to me that they will need some more gas in the tank to 'extinguish' anybody:  It shouldn’t surprise anybody that real people . . .  don’t want to invest in these clowns

'Everything has fallen off a cliff': Battleground state GOPs nosedive in Trump era - POLITICO

There was a time when we actually had a 2-party system here; not so much anymore.

Why am I not crying?

Jerry Baumchen

[kallend 2,106]

GOP looks to be extinguishing itself.

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2023/09/01/america-life-expectancy-regions-00113369

Living in a red state has large negative consequences for life expectancy.