brenthutch 444 #1 Posted October 19, 2023 https://www.politico.com/news/2023/09/18/pierre-poilievre-trudeau-canada-00116084 Watch him destroy a lefty journalist while eating an apple. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmbAPfKJMRU Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 1,149 #2 October 19, 2023 He will have to win in Quebec in order to become PM. The liberals have lost the popular vote in the last two elections yet remained in power. The "Axe the Tax" is very popular but the conservative really don't have a sound environmental plan. The liberal government has had several corruption scandals during the Trudeau leadership. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 444 #3 October 19, 2023 14 minutes ago, Phil1111 said: the conservative really don't have a sound environmental plan. I hope you are not talking about climate change. Let’s just take a look at how Trudeau’s climate policy is working out. https://climateactiontracker.org/countries/canada/ “Canada’s overall CAT rating remains unchanged at ‘Highly insufficient’. Canada needs stronger targets and faster policy implementation. To quote the commissioner: ‘we cannot afford a fourth decade of failure on climate action’.” Unless you count platitudes and slogans as climate action, there is little difference between the two. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #4 October 19, 2023 33 minutes ago, Phil1111 said: He will have to win in Quebec in order to become PM. The liberals have lost the popular vote in the last two elections yet remained in power. The "Axe the Tax" is very popular but the conservative really don't have a sound environmental plan. The liberal government has had several corruption scandals during the Trudeau leadership. Current polling has the Liberals continuing to fall. Majority of Canadians want Trudeau to resign now. If elections were to be held today, there is very little doubt Poilievre would be PM. However scheduled elections are 2 years away, which is an eternity in politics. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 1,149 #5 October 19, 2023 16 minutes ago, SkyDekker said: Current polling has the Liberals continuing to fall. Majority of Canadians want Trudeau to resign now. If elections were to be held today, there is very little doubt Poilievre would be PM. However scheduled elections are 2 years away, which is an eternity in politics. Agree or even two eternities. Unfortunately given the breakdown/distribution of districts and MPs. The majority hasn't carried the day in the last couple election. The recent pandering of the PM to his base regarding food costs. Whereby he called into Ottawa the presidents of the largest grocery chains and read them the riot act to reduce food costs. Was nothing but a sham. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 444 #6 October 19, 2023 5 minutes ago, Phil1111 said: Agree or even two eternities. Unfortunately given the breakdown/distribution of districts and MPs. The majority hasn't carried the day in the last couple election. The recent pandering of the PM to his base regarding food costs. Whereby he called into Ottawa the presidents of the largest grocery chains and read them the riot act to reduce food costs. Was nothing but a sham. As we learned from Ronald Reagan, successful politics requires, not only good policies, but a bit of theater as well. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 1,149 #7 October 19, 2023 36 minutes ago, brenthutch said: I hope you are not talking about climate change. Let’s just take a look at how Trudeau’s climate policy is working out. https://climateactiontracker.org/countries/canada/ “Canada’s overall CAT rating remains unchanged at ‘Highly insufficient’. Canada needs stronger targets and faster policy implementation. To quote the commissioner: ‘we cannot afford a fourth decade of failure on climate action’.” Unless you count platitudes and slogans as climate action, there is little difference between the two. Because of immigration Canada's population is among the twentieth fastest growing in the world. There were 1.1 million new immigrants in the last year. The conservative leader that you refer to is going to meet Canada's climate goals through "technology". I agree with his policy to strive for more exports of carbon fuels. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 1,149 #8 October 19, 2023 1 minute ago, brenthutch said: As we learned from Ronald Reagan, successful politics requires, not only good policies, but a bit of theater as well. Naturally you would. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 444 #9 October 19, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Phil1111 said: Naturally you would. 49 out of 50 states can’t be wrong https://www.britannica.com/event/United-States-presidential-election-of-1984 Edited October 19, 2023 by brenthutch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #10 October 19, 2023 10 minutes ago, Phil1111 said: The majority hasn't carried the day in the last couple election. True, but if you combine both left wing parties in Canada, they have a majority together. In other words, left wing votes are much higher than right wing votes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #11 October 19, 2023 4 minutes ago, brenthutch said: As we learned from Ronald Reagan, successful politics requires, not only good policies, but a bit of theater as well. Considering you are still paying for the debt he accumulated, very expensive theatre. But for people like you entertainment will always trump results. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 444 #12 October 19, 2023 32 minutes ago, SkyDekker said: Considering you are still paying for the debt he accumulated, very expensive theatre. But for people like you entertainment will always trump results. Small price to pay considering we won the Cold War. Not to mention, much of that was paid off during the Clinton administration as we reaped the benefit of the “peace dividend” Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,991 #13 October 19, 2023 1 hour ago, Phil1111 said: Naturally you would. The ironic thing is that if Reagan ran today as a republican he'd be laughed out of the race by today's republican, who would consider him a gun-grabbing, illegal-immigrant-loving tax-and-spend liberal. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #14 October 20, 2023 10 hours ago, brenthutch said: Small price to pay considering we won the Cold War. Not to mention, much of that was paid off during the Clinton administration as we reaped the benefit of the “peace dividend” Considering the party you belong to is bowing in front of Putin, I don't think you should be saying that so confidently. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 1,149 #15 October 20, 2023 11 hours ago, brenthutch said: Small price to pay considering we won the Cold War. Not to mention, much of that was paid off during the Clinton administration as we reaped the benefit of the “peace dividend” “Piece dividend” thats funny. Does that mean the US spends about a trillion a year and all the defense contractors get a piece of the action for all their lobbying? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites