Abortion rights win in Ohio

[billvon 2,989]

7 minutes ago, kallend said:

How sad that a woman has to go to court in order to have control of her own body.

 . . . and the state plans to appeal, which may result in the woman being unable to have children in the future.

Which is exactly how some Texan conservatives want it.  They want to hold the reigns and decide who gets to reproduce - and who doesn't.

[JerryBaumchen 1,354]

1 hour ago, billvon said:

 . . . and the state plans to appeal, which may result in the woman being unable to have children in the future.

Which is exactly how some Texan conservatives want it.  They want to hold the reigns and decide who gets to reproduce - and who doesn't.

Hi Bill,

Total insanity.  They probably hate EV's also.

Jerry Baumchen

PS)  Here is more insanity:  Black Ohio woman’s arrest after pregnancy loss begs the question, ‘What do you do after a miscarriage?’ - oregonlive.com

 

Edited December 7, 2023 by JerryBaumchen

[kallend 2,026]

17 hours ago, billvon said:

 . . . and the state plans to appeal, which may result in the woman being unable to have children in the future.

Which is exactly how some Texan conservatives want it.  They want to hold the reigns and decide who gets to reproduce - and who doesn't.

Texas AG Paxton is threatening to prosecute regardless of te court's order.

Beto O'Rouke summed it up nicely:  

“This is Texas AG Ken Paxton saying he’ll throw a woman’s doctors in prison for life if they perform a *court-granted* abortion on a *nonviable* pregnancy that risks causing her permanent infertility and death,” he said.

“Still think the GOP is pro-life?” O’Rourke added.

[jakee 1,489]

1 hour ago, kallend said:

Texas AG Paxton is threatening to prosecute regardless of te court's order.

Beto O'Rouke summed it up nicely:  

“This is Texas AG Ken Paxton saying he’ll throw a woman’s doctors in prison for life if they perform a *court-granted* abortion on a *nonviable* pregnancy that risks causing her permanent infertility and death,” he said.

“Still think the GOP is pro-life?” O’Rourke added.

Another demonstration of the ‘feature not a bug’ aspect of these GOP culture war laws that they are just vague on what exactly is legal and where the limits are. They rely on people being so worried about what a corrupt, criminal (in the Saul Goldman sense) AG like Paxton might be able to convict that they self censor their actions to a significantly greater degree than the law explicitly requires.

[JerryBaumchen 1,354]

6 hours ago, jakee said:

Another demonstration of the ‘feature not a bug’ aspect of these GOP culture war laws that they are just vague on what exactly is legal and where the limits are. They rely on people being so worried about what a corrupt, criminal (in the Saul Goldman sense) AG like Paxton might be able to convict that they self censor their actions to a significantly greater degree than the law explicitly requires.

Hi John Kallend,

Re:  “Still think the GOP is pro-life?” O’Rourke added.

The GOP has never been pro-life.  It is just a stance to attract voters, nothing more.

Jerry Baumchen

PS)  For some unknown reason I cannot respond to your last post in this thread.  Another feature, I guess.

 

 

[kallend 2,026]

Those lovely, caring Republicans in Texas:

AUSTIN, Texas — The Texas Supreme Court on Friday night put on hold a judge's ruling that approved an abortion for a pregnant woman whose fetus has a fatal diagnosis, throwing into limbo an unprecedented challenge to one of the most restrictive bans in the U.S.

The order by the all-Republican court came more than 30 hours after Kate Cox, a 31-year-old mother of two from the Dallas area, received a temporary restraining order from a lower court judge that prevents Texas from enforcing the state's ban in her case.

[kallend 2,026]

Texas GOP claims compassion for women but requires that their lives or a major bodily function be at imminent risk before a doctor can step in. And Texas GOP claims to protect life by forcing a woman like Kate Cox to carry a child who almost certainly won’t live while threatening her ability to have a child who will.

Fucking hypocrites.

[jakee 1,489]

Absolutely that. She wants to have a baby. The ‘pro life’ GOP won’t let her. 

[kallend 2,026]

The so-called "Alliance Defending Freedom" is one of the parties to the suit that the Supreme Court has just taken up over access to Mifepristone.  They want to increase government restrictions.  These are the restrictions that Judge Kacsmaryk — a Trump nominee with long-held anti-abortion views, put in place recently.

Does anyone else find increasing government restrictions to be a strange way of defending freedom?

[wolfriverjoe 1,523]

2 hours ago, kallend said:

The so-called "Alliance Defending Freedom" is one of the parties to the suit that the Supreme Court has just taken up over access to Mifepristone.  They want to increase government restrictions.  These are the restrictions that Judge Kacsmaryk — a Trump nominee with long-held anti-abortion views, put in place recently.

Does anyone else find increasing government restrictions to be a strange way of defending freedom?

You have to understand their point of view.

THEY want the freedom to dictate how everyone else lives their lives.

While, at the same time, insisting that THEY can do anything they want.

[ryoder 1,590]

Ohio grand jury ignores prosecutor and goes with common sense.

Ohio woman who miscarried on home toilet is not criminally liable, grand jury says