brenthutch 444 #26 December 14, 2023 3 minutes ago, billvon said: They are. They are adding 170 GIGAWATTS of solar in 2023. That's the energy equivalent of 45 new nuclear power plants. Wind is similar. They added 110 gigawatts of wind in 2022, and are on track to do the same for this year. Compare that to 95 gigawatts of new coal capability under construction in 2023. Except not exactly “After the permitting spree of the past year, China now has 243 GW of coal-fired capacity currently permitted and under construction. If the permitting rush is not stopped until projects that are currently announced or in pre-permit stages have gained permits as well, there will be a total of 392 GW of new coal-fired power capacity in the pipeline.” https://energyandcleanair.org/publication/chinas-new-coal-power-spree-continues-as-more-provinces-jump-on-the-bandwagon/#:~:text=After the permitting spree of,currently permitted and under construction. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,810 #27 December 14, 2023 2 hours ago, lippy said: You're asking why they're not using wind and solar to build the equipment to build out the infrastructure for wind and solar? Again, Brent makes the case that wind and solar aren't here to support 100% of our energy needs right out of the gate and so they're not viable options. And again I'll ask: did you keep the receipt for that MBA? We could do him a solid and go there to beat their asses and get his money back. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
olofscience 489 #28 December 14, 2023 47 minutes ago, brenthutch said: Except not exactly “After the permitting spree of the past year, China now has 243 GW of coal-fired capacity currently permitted and under construction. When will those be finished? Because according to this, China currently has 379GW in solar under construction, and on course to add another 371GW of wind capacity before 2025. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,557 #29 December 14, 2023 3 hours ago, kallend said: All my R/C planes are electric now. I have over 40. Here are a few. I hope you like the USAF Academy's Twotter with jump door. Philosophy question - is a model Typhoon that a human is able to fly actually a good model? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 444 #30 December 14, 2023 (edited) 24 minutes ago, olofscience said: When will those be finished? Because according to this, China currently has 379GW in solar under construction, and on course to add another 371GW of wind capacity before 2025. That makes perfect sense as wind and solar need to be backed up by thermal and/or hydro for those times when the sun doesn’t shine and the wind doesn’t blow. For China it’s not renewables or coal it is renewables and coal, and we haven’t even mentioned India…yet. Edited December 14, 2023 by brenthutch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 1,149 #31 December 14, 2023 38 minutes ago, JoeWeber said: We could do him a solid and go there to beat their asses and get his money back. He likely takes enormous pride in getting his MBA from the same school that trump did. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 1,149 #32 December 14, 2023 7 minutes ago, brenthutch said: ....For China it’s not renewables or coal it is renewables and coal, and we haven’t even mentioned India…yet. After a decade of trolling and hundreds of threads you finally admit what you've known all along. Please, please, don't start a whole new avalanche of threads on India now. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 444 #33 December 14, 2023 1 minute ago, Phil1111 said: He likely takes enormous pride in getting his MBA from the same school that trump did. I wish, but enough about me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,058 #34 December 14, 2023 31 minutes ago, brenthutch said: That makes perfect sense as China really doesn't give a shit about their people. The real reason. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 444 #35 December 14, 2023 8 minutes ago, billvon said: The real reason. BTW did you catch the thread about California’s collapsing home solar market? What’s up with that? 17,000 jobs lost right before Christmas? And I thought Gavin Newsom was a progressive. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,058 #36 December 14, 2023 9 minutes ago, brenthutch said: BTW did you catch the thread about California’s collapsing home solar market? Right. Just like the 50% increase in EV sales per year is a "collapse of the EV market." And the 40% decline in coal power generation in the US is proof that coal is the future. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 444 #37 December 14, 2023 (edited) 11 minutes ago, billvon said: Right. Just like the 50% increase in EV sales per year is a "collapse of the EV market." And the 40% decline in coal power generation in the US is proof that coal is the future. Coal was just supplanted by a cheaper fossil fuel, natural gas. Hardly a green energy revolution. BTW that characterization of the state of California’s solar industry was by a solar power trade group not me. Edited December 14, 2023 by brenthutch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bigfalls 111 #38 December 14, 2023 20 hours ago, JoeWeber said: maybe some kid sorts out how to tap into the planets electric field I saw a youtube video of a college professor about electric motors. He built and demonstrated an electric motor that ran on the earths magnetic field, no other source of electricity. It was small and barely ran but it did run. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 843 #39 December 14, 2023 5 minutes ago, Bigfalls said: I saw a youtube video of a college professor about electric motors. He built and demonstrated an electric motor that ran on the earths magnetic field, no other source of electricity. It was small and barely ran but it did run. OMG the coal miners will lose jobs. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,058 #40 December 14, 2023 39 minutes ago, Bigfalls said: I saw a youtube video of a college professor about electric motors. He built and demonstrated an electric motor that ran on the earths magnetic field, no other source of electricity. That's a piece of cake! Put a satellite in orbit and have a free-spinning magnet in the center. It will spin once an orbit to align with the Earth's magnetic field. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,245 #41 December 14, 2023 8 minutes ago, billvon said: That's a piece of cake! Put a satellite in orbit and have a free-spinning magnet in the center. It will spin once an orbit to align with the Earth's magnetic field. Energy is everywhere. Transitioning from stored mined energy to tapping and using all the various forms of radiation streaming from the giant fusion machine a mere 1 AU away is only an engineering problem to be solved. That will take some time and a lot of political will. But is within easier grasp than pie in the sky stuff like colonies on Mars. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,810 #42 December 14, 2023 1 hour ago, billvon said: That's a piece of cake! Put a satellite in orbit and have a free-spinning magnet in the center. It will spin once an orbit to align with the Earth's magnetic field. Great, thanks for giving us cake to eat. Now get after it please. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,103 #43 December 15, 2023 8 hours ago, jakee said: Philosophy question - is a model Typhoon that a human is able to fly actually a good model? I have a 3 axis gyro stabilizer in it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites