Brent for SC Moderator

[jakee 1,563]

7 minutes ago, brenthutch said:

BTW if the only people who are allowed in were actual legitimate asylum seekers and not economic opportunists we wouldn’t even be discussing this issue.

But also at the moment asylum seekers have to physically get to the US first. Are you happy that anyone, anywhere in the world can find the closest US Embassy, have their asylum claim fairly assessed, and if it is genuine they get to come to the US from there?

[brenthutch 444]

1 hour ago, jakee said:

But also at the moment asylum seekers have to physically get to the US first. Are you happy that anyone, anywhere in the world can find the closest US Embassy, have their asylum claim fairly assessed, and if it is genuine they get to come to the US from there?

They can go to the US embassy in Mexico, we are talking about the situation on our southern border.

UN definition of refugee:

Someone who, owing to well-founded fear of being persecuted for reasons of race, religion, nationality, membership of a particular social group or political opinion, is outside the country of his nationality and is unable or, owing to such fear, is unwilling to avail himself of the protection of that country

 

No mention of folks looking to get a better job 

BTW I would love to hear your plan 

 

Edited December 23, 2023 by brenthutch

[jakee 1,563]

2 hours ago, brenthutch said:

They can go to the US embassy in Mexico, we are talking about the situation on our southern border.

You said refugees would have to apply at the Embassy in their home country. Most people at the southern border are not Mexicans. Are you going to have a list of countries where asylum seekers can apply at the US embassy and a list of countries where they can't?

I think I now understand why you were so confused just now. I was talking about what you actually said and you apparently didn't know what you'd said.

2 hours ago, brenthutch said:

No mention of folks looking to get a better job 

And?

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BTW I would love to hear your plan 

Stop stressing and make it easier.

[wolfriverjoe 1,523]

14 hours ago, jakee said:

...This is honestly the most staggering level of cluelessness you’ve displayed yet.

Oh please.

He's said a lot more clueless stuff than that in the past.

[brenthutch 444]

28 minutes ago, jakee said:

You said refugees would have to apply at the Embassy in their home country. Most people at the southern border are not Mexicans. Are you going to have a list of countries where asylum seekers can apply at the US embassy and a list of countries where they can't?

I think I now understand why you were so confused just now. I was talking about what you actually said and you apparently didn't know what you'd said.

And?

Stop stressing and make it easier.

So you sit back in the cheap seats and snipe at someone who has the balls to put something out there.  If I were you I would do the same. It’s better to remain silent be thought of as an idiot than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.

Edited December 23, 2023 by brenthutch

[jakee 1,563]

10 hours ago, brenthutch said:

So you sit back in the cheap seats and snipe at someone who has the balls to put something out there.

No one knows what it was you out out there. Are you copying Hungary or not? Are you letting asylum seekers apply in their home countries or do they have to go to Mexico? You might wanna simmer down on the self congratulation, you’re hardly taking a bold and unique stand based on strong principles here. 
 

10 hours ago, brenthutch said:

If I were you I would do the same.

I just did.

[wmw999 2,534]

14 hours ago, brenthutch said:

I would do the same

What’s this “would” stuff? It’s all you ever do. Not necessarily our stuff specifically, but anything climate related. 

Wendy P. 

[JoeWeber 2,823]

17 hours ago, brenthutch said:

No mention of folks looking to get a better job

I'm certain at least your job is safe or were you planning on opening an Arepa truck?

[gowlerk 2,249]

America, and Canada for that matter were not populated by refugees. They were and will be populated by "economic migrants". Starving people are highly motivated. I understand the desire to keep the gates closed from the flood but I have a real hard time with the lack of respect for the people who face this ordeal.

[brenthutch 444]

45 minutes ago, gowlerk said:

America, and Canada for that matter were not populated by refugees. They were and will be populated by "economic migrants". Starving people are highly motivated. I understand the desire to keep the gates closed from the flood but I have a real hard time with the lack of respect for the people who face this ordeal.

Is there no limiting principle? Anyone from anywhere can just come and stay with no regard to the limitations of schools, hospitals and other public services? Biden started this fiasco by playing Santa Claus with our immigration system, someone is going to have to play Krampus to get it fixed.

Merry Christmas everyone 

[jakee 1,563]

5 minutes ago, brenthutch said:

Biden started this fiasco by playing Santa Claus with our immigration system,

So no one complained about migration while Obama was in office, then?

[brenthutch 444]

38 minutes ago, jakee said:

So no one complained about migration while Obama was in office, then?

Democrat mayors weren’t unlike today 

[jakee 1,563]

19 minutes ago, brenthutch said:

Democrat mayors weren’t unlike today 

What about the admittedly tiny subset of the population who are other people?

[JoeWeber 2,823]

1 hour ago, brenthutch said:

Is there no limiting principle? Anyone from anywhere can just come and stay with no regard to the limitations of schools, hospitals and other public services? Biden started this fiasco by playing Santa Claus with our immigration system, someone is going to have to play Krampus to get it fixed.

Merry Christmas everyone 

What are you in a wad about, actually? Re-designating Venezuelans? Should we be sanctioning Mexico into de-stabilization or just invade them and send our troops to their southern border? The reality is that the conditions that create economic migration aren't a hell of a lot changed since your relatives left Africa (that's right, you weren't chased out by "others") except that now we are compounding the natural effects of entropy with hundreds of years of conquest, colonialization, and just being our natural asshole selves to each other. The bottom line is that there are a crap pot more rats on this small rock than there was in the good old days and it's only going to get busier at the borders of the haves. Merry Christmas to you, too.