tdog 0 #1 October 25, 2013 http://www.ainonline.com/aviation-news/nbaa-convention-news/2013-10-21/drake-wins-stc-parachuting-gv Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flaperon 0 #2 October 25, 2013 I wonder how much that STC cost to develop as well as how much it costs, to buy. Very interesting... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrDom 0 #3 October 25, 2013 flaperon I wonder how much that STC cost to develop as well as how much it costs, to buy. Very interesting... Oh... a G550 would not be a reasonable investment for a DZ. They live somewhere in the 30-40 million range with Twotters being more in the 1.5 million range. Its a good concept but... why?You are not the contents of your wallet. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flaperon 0 #4 October 25, 2013 I was wondering the cost of the STC, not the aircraft. As to "why", the answer may lie in there somewhere. If someone can get such an STC for the cost of an hour's flight time, perhaps it's for advertising or something. It is indeed an odd one... DrDom ***I wonder how much that STC cost to develop as well as how much it costs, to buy. Very interesting... Oh... a G550 would not be a reasonable investment for a DZ. They live somewhere in the 30-40 million range with Twotters being more in the 1.5 million range. Its a good concept but... why? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zlew 0 #5 October 25, 2013 seems like it might be good for military too. just a private jet flying over your airspace...nothing to see here.... no reason to worry about guys with guns dropping in to ruin your day :) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jackwallace 3 #6 October 25, 2013 I can see next weeks headline: Wing Suiter sucked into engine. Plane falls on orphanage.U only make 2 jumps: the first one for some weird reason and the last one that you lived through. The rest are just filler. scr 316 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnMitchell 16 #7 October 25, 2013 jackwallace I can see next weeks headline: Wing Suiter sucked into engine. Plane falls on orphanage. Hell, wouldn't even have to be a wingsuiter. . ..I have zero desire to jump out of any airplane upwind of the engine or propellor. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cpoxon 0 #8 October 25, 2013 QuoteI have zero desire to jump out of any airplane upwind of the engine or propellor. The angle of the picture makes it difficult to see exactly, but it doesn't look forward of the nacelle, but just underneath. Still, it would make me very uncomfortable. But damn, that's a small door! Doing tandems out of it might be tricky :-PSkydiving Fatalities - Cease not to learn 'til thou cease to live Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cpoxon 0 #9 October 25, 2013 flaperonI was wondering the cost of the STC, not the aircraft. How much do manuals cost? QuoteThe STC requires no changes to the aircraft and consists of copyrighted AFM supplements.Skydiving Fatalities - Cease not to learn 'til thou cease to live Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Divergert 0 #10 October 25, 2013 DrDom ***I wonder how much that STC cost to develop as well as how much it costs, to buy. Very interesting... Oh... a G550 would not be a reasonable investment for a DZ. They live somewhere in the 30-40 million range But if you steal it borrow it, it's for free... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
format 1 #11 October 25, 2013 JohnMitchell I have zero desire to jump out of any airplane upwind of the engine or propellor. I concur but there's a door behind the wing and under engineGulfstream G-550What goes around, comes later. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davelepka 4 #12 October 25, 2013 Cool idea, but I've having trouble seeing the actual purpose. The door (as pictured) isn't really big enough for any sort of real jumping or delivering any significant cargo. As for the airframe, it's a newer, top-dollar model. I could see if it was an older airframe, that relief organizations could get on the cheap, and then use the range of a jet to drop supplies in far away planes, but a G550? Any chance the guy who holds the STC happens to be a G550 owner with money for 10 G550's, who just wanted to jump out of his own plane? That's an expensive jump ticket for sure. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
arm900fj 0 #13 October 25, 2013 The military operates G-550 for special missions (CIA) and VIP services. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 800 #14 October 25, 2013 Now Red Bull can too! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EatSleepFly 0 #15 October 25, 2013 arm900fj The military operates G-550 for special missions (CIA) and VIP services. Correct. If I had to guess, this is probably targeted towards civilian defense contractors operating "civilian" airplanes- not sport skydiving. On most "normal" aircraft, what you'd be exiting out of is the baggage compartment (which is also accessible from the cabin). It'd make a hell of a specialty aircraft at a boogie though! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flaperon 0 #16 October 25, 2013 The cost of acquiring the STC is passed on with the paperwork to make it legal so...two pieces of paper might cost $10K. cpoxon***I was wondering the cost of the STC, not the aircraft. How much do manuals cost? QuoteThe STC requires no changes to the aircraft and consists of copyrighted AFM supplements. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,991 #17 October 25, 2013 >Oh... a G550 would not be a reasonable investment for a DZ. They live somewhere in >the 30-40 million range with Twotters being more in the 1.5 million range. >Its a good concept but... why? For people like us! Our company has a G550, and it would be so much easier to just drop me off on the way. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 30 #18 October 25, 2013 billvon>Oh... a G550 would not be a reasonable investment for a DZ. They live somewhere in >the 30-40 million range with Twotters being more in the 1.5 million range. >Its a good concept but... why? For people like us! Our company has a G550, and it would be so much easier to just drop me off on the way. Damm you 1%er! Oops... Wrong forum! ;-)Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tink1717 2 #19 October 26, 2013 So, how long before a DZ gets one? Skydivers don't knock on Death's door. They ring the bell and runaway... It really pisses him off. -The World Famous Tink. (I never heard of you either!!) AA #2069 ASA#33 POPS#8808 Swooo 1717 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #20 October 26, 2013 This does solve a few issues for contractors and special needs groups that need to do small cargo drops with extended ranges in a fast time frame. The ability to toss out radio beacons, life rafts and other small cargo has typically been limited to either near shore operations or by military aircraft only since they can refuel in air but the GV has a range of over 6600 miles so it provides a really long distance option that can get onsite much faster than a C130 that has a range of 2300 miles with out refueling.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 643 #21 October 27, 2013 PhreeZoneThis does solve a few issues for contractors and special needs groups that need to do small cargo drops with extended ranges in a fast time frame. The ability to toss out radio beacons, life rafts and other small cargo has typically been limited to either near shore operations or by military aircraft only since they can refuel in air but the GV has a range of over 6600 miles so it provides a really long distance option that can get onsite much faster than a C130 that has a range of 2300 miles with out refueling. ................................................................................. Better range than a CF-18 fighter jet with a SKAD (Survival Kit Air-Dropable). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 643 #22 October 27, 2013 arm900fjThe military operates G-550 for special missions (CIA) and VIP services. .................................................................................. Why is this reminding me of a Boeing 707 - operated by the Argentine Air Force - during the "dirty war?" People - who made sarcastic comments about the ruling military junta - went on one-flights out over the Atlantic Ocean. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrDom 0 #23 October 28, 2013 PhreeZoneThis does solve a few issues for contractors and special needs groups that need to do small cargo drops with extended ranges in a fast time frame. The ability to toss out radio beacons, life rafts and other small cargo has typically been limited to either near shore operations or by military aircraft only since they can refuel in air but the GV has a range of over 6600 miles so it provides a really long distance option that can get onsite much faster than a C130 that has a range of 2300 miles with out refueling. I could see a use like that, but not for pleasure skydiving..You are not the contents of your wallet. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tink1717 2 #24 October 28, 2013 Does the term "Rendition" mean anything to you? Skydivers don't knock on Death's door. They ring the bell and runaway... It really pisses him off. -The World Famous Tink. (I never heard of you either!!) AA #2069 ASA#33 POPS#8808 Swooo 1717 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theplummeter 15 #25 October 28, 2013 Is there either an exemption for excise/VAT taxes or carbon credits if a portion of a flight involves humanitarian aid? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
