azureriders 0 #1 January 31, 2006 Several times I have buckled my helmet down before pulling up my gogles (never jumped that way) and a couple of weeks ago had a low pull from a hard to find PC handle. For these reasons I have been really stressing the importantance of a high altitude gear check to myself. I have found that it helps me to be thorough on my own check, if I scan the gear of jumpers around me after I finish. As I am normally one of the least experienced on the load, I figured it would be a long time before I ever caught something major on someone else, but it helps anyway. Jump #25 for me, I do my last check, look over to my coach and another up jumper infront of me, then back to the guys behind me and do a double take. I grab the guys chest strap and and shake it, he looked at me funny so I pulled a little harder and It almost came all the way out of the friction adapter with only the elastic keeper holding it. This was an experieced jumper, (no idea how many jumps but he has been jumping in groups with the rest of the up jumpers for the entire yr that I have been in the sport) He fixed it with a pale face and for a minute I thought he might not even jump, but ofcourse he did, and was fine. Talk about reassure myself of the importance of a last minute gear check. Also made me feel good to give something back, the instructors, coaches, and average up jumpers on my DZ have all given us students so much. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrBrant 0 #2 January 31, 2006 Quote Jump #25 for me, I do my last check, look over to my coach and another up jumper infront of me, then back to the guys behind me and do a double take. I grab the guys chest strap and and shake it, he looked at me funny so I pulled a little harder and It almost came all the way out of the friction adapter with only the elastic keeper holding it. This was an experieced jumper, (no idea how many jumps but he has been jumping in groups with the rest of the up jumpers for the entire yr that I have been in the sport) He fixed it with a pale face and for a minute I thought he might not even jump, but ofcourse he did, and was fine. Nice catch, good job looking out for your safety and the safety of others. However, I'm not sure that grabbing and pulling at somebody's chest strap is the best way to call their attention to a problem. I, for one, would be extremely irritated if somebody I don't know, and I wasn't jumping with, came up and started grabbing and pulling on my gear before a jump. Shouting or gesturing might have been a better alternative as a first attempt (grabbing as a last resort). That's just my opinion of course, and like I said, good job at noticing a problem Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Scoop 0 #3 January 31, 2006 Not making someone aware would be worse! I wouldnt care how you told me, the fact that you may have just saved my life outweighs any irritation it may course. Plus puts you in line for some seriously good karma and beer from the DZ bar NICE ONE! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jheadley 0 #4 January 31, 2006 Good job! I caught my first misrouted chest strap a couple days ago, I was doing a 2-way with a guy with 30 jumps, and I was able to catch it while we were at the mock-up, makes you feel pretty good. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites azureriders 0 #5 January 31, 2006 haha, good point from the way it reads, but I am not a rude person and I know this guy well enough to grab his chest strap with out offending him. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites sectaerius 0 #6 January 31, 2006 As previously said, good catch...way to go kid!! Ok, now i trust you to give me those last minute checks!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Reginald 0 #7 January 31, 2006 Nicely done. How does ti feel to know you might have saved someones life?"We've been looking for the enemy for some time now. We've finally found him. We're surrounded. That simplifies things." CP Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites lisamariewillbe 1 #8 January 31, 2006 Good job, glad us newbies arent completley worthless. If someone grabbed my cheststrap I would assume they thought there was a issue with it, so that being said if I am ever next to someone in a plane, and you see my chest strap all screwed up, please feel free to yank me, smack me, knock me upside the head (that wont hurt as I leave my helmet on the from ground, to jump run, back to ground)Sudsy Fist: i don't think i'd ever say this Sudsy Fist: but you're looking damn sudsydoable in this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites peregrinerose 0 #9 February 1, 2006 Good catch, and keep paying attention like that. We all need to look out for each other. Honestly, if something was wrong, I don't care if you grab my chest strap or smack me upside the head to get my attention Like you, I do a gear check before putting anything on, before getting in the plane, and about 2K from altitude. I also try to keep an eye on everyone else. Do or do not, there is no try -Yoda Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Superman32 0 #10 February 1, 2006 Nice jobIt feels good doesn't it Inveniam Viam aut Faciam I'm back biatches! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites bigbearfng 18 #11 February 1, 2006 Last misrouted chest strap I caught was on a gal I was jumping with-NO I didn't grab it! I just pointed repeatedly, and still got accused of bein' a pervert by my friends..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites MB38 0 #12 February 1, 2006 I caught my first misrouted chest strap on another jumper last week. I told him about it, he looked down at it, said "yeah" and fixed it.I really don't know what I'm talking about. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites AggieDave 6 #13 February 1, 2006 Good catch, everyone catches someone at some time, its important to look out for your fellow jumpers. I would recommend that you don't just grab people's gear, though. That will greatly upset folks. You might want to just point to it and tell them. If they blow you off, then maybe something a little more "agressive" is needed to tell them.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites azureriders 0 #14 February 1, 2006 QuoteI would recommend that you don't just grab people's gear, though. That will greatly upset folks. I agree, but like I said before, I know this guy well enough that I could have snatched him around however and he would have been ok with it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites canedraw4 0 #15 February 1, 2006 Of course, not every jump with a misroute ends in a fatality. Allthough last weekend i got spanked so hard i saw my legs in the canopy and im sure that would have. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites brianfry713 0 #16 February 1, 2006 Anyone not a student caught with a misrouted chest strap (or other major f-up) should owe a case of beer to the DZ.BASE 1224, Senior Parachute Rigger, CPL ASEL IA, AGI, IGI USPA Coach & UPT Tandem Instructor, PRO, Altimaster Field Support Representative Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites lisamariewillbe 1 #17 February 1, 2006 Why the DZ? If it were caught on me, id give it to the person who very well just saved my lifeSudsy Fist: i don't think i'd ever say this Sudsy Fist: but you're looking damn sudsydoable in this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites hookitt 1 #18 February 1, 2006 I've caught several. The person fixed it, that's good enough for me.My grammar sometimes resembles that of magnetic refrigerator poetry... Ghetto Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites azureriders 0 #19 February 1, 2006 It did feel good as many of you have said. He fixed it, that was good enough for me. No beer needed, as I don't drink the stuff. Yes, I have been told that you can not be a skydiver if you are not a beer drinker, but I am tring really hard. The only thing I think anyone owes for haveing someone look out for them, is the same in return. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites happythoughts 0 #20 February 2, 2006 QuoteI've caught several. The person fixed it, that's good enough for me. Me too. I usually lean over and whisper it to them. They quietly fix it. I have seen it, at least once, every year. The only one that irritated me was the one in 2004 that met me after the debrief and said, "I probably would have been ok". I sure wouldn't want to bet my life on it. I check myself. Then, I visually check everyone that I can see. Chest straps and cutaway handles. Every ride. Ask anyone who has been on a plane with me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites JohnMitchell 16 #21 February 2, 2006 QuoteI caught my first misrouted chest strap on another jumper last week. I told him about it, he looked down at it, said "yeah" and fixed it. Wow, not even a "thank you"? Oh well, good job anyway. Thanks from all the rest of us. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites JohnMitchell 16 #22 February 2, 2006 Quote I check myself. Then, I visually check everyone that I can see. Chest straps and cutaway handles. Every ride. Ask anyone who has been on a plane with me. Honestly, women, when we're sneaking peeks at your chests on the way to altitude, it's only for safety reasons. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites happythoughts 0 #23 February 2, 2006 QuoteQuote I check myself. Then, I visually check everyone that I can see. Chest straps and cutaway handles. Every ride. Ask anyone who has been on a plane with me. Honestly, women, when we're sneaking peeks at your chests on the way to altitude, it's only for safety reasons. I had a woman give me one of the "looks". I told her, "Gear check. Buy me a beer later and we'll discuss your boobs." Either Johnny or I usually announce, "11,000 ft people, gear checks. Cheststraps, cutaway handles, bridles, and pins." I wish more people would. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites MB38 0 #24 February 2, 2006 QuoteQuoteI caught my first misrouted chest strap on another jumper last week. I told him about it, he looked down at it, said "yeah" and fixed it. Wow, not even a "thank you"? Nope, but doesn't bother me. It was an interesting experience... I've formed such a habit of looking at every chest strap I ever see... on the ground, in the air... that when I saw one that was misrouted it was downright shocking. I think my heart skipped a beat before I told him.I really don't know what I'm talking about. 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Scoop 0 #3 January 31, 2006 Not making someone aware would be worse! I wouldnt care how you told me, the fact that you may have just saved my life outweighs any irritation it may course. Plus puts you in line for some seriously good karma and beer from the DZ bar NICE ONE! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jheadley 0 #4 January 31, 2006 Good job! I caught my first misrouted chest strap a couple days ago, I was doing a 2-way with a guy with 30 jumps, and I was able to catch it while we were at the mock-up, makes you feel pretty good. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
azureriders 0 #5 January 31, 2006 haha, good point from the way it reads, but I am not a rude person and I know this guy well enough to grab his chest strap with out offending him. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sectaerius 0 #6 January 31, 2006 As previously said, good catch...way to go kid!! Ok, now i trust you to give me those last minute checks!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reginald 0 #7 January 31, 2006 Nicely done. How does ti feel to know you might have saved someones life?"We've been looking for the enemy for some time now. We've finally found him. We're surrounded. That simplifies things." CP Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lisamariewillbe 1 #8 January 31, 2006 Good job, glad us newbies arent completley worthless. If someone grabbed my cheststrap I would assume they thought there was a issue with it, so that being said if I am ever next to someone in a plane, and you see my chest strap all screwed up, please feel free to yank me, smack me, knock me upside the head (that wont hurt as I leave my helmet on the from ground, to jump run, back to ground)Sudsy Fist: i don't think i'd ever say this Sudsy Fist: but you're looking damn sudsydoable in this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peregrinerose 0 #9 February 1, 2006 Good catch, and keep paying attention like that. We all need to look out for each other. Honestly, if something was wrong, I don't care if you grab my chest strap or smack me upside the head to get my attention Like you, I do a gear check before putting anything on, before getting in the plane, and about 2K from altitude. I also try to keep an eye on everyone else. Do or do not, there is no try -Yoda Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Superman32 0 #10 February 1, 2006 Nice jobIt feels good doesn't it Inveniam Viam aut Faciam I'm back biatches! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bigbearfng 18 #11 February 1, 2006 Last misrouted chest strap I caught was on a gal I was jumping with-NO I didn't grab it! I just pointed repeatedly, and still got accused of bein' a pervert by my friends..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MB38 0 #12 February 1, 2006 I caught my first misrouted chest strap on another jumper last week. I told him about it, he looked down at it, said "yeah" and fixed it.I really don't know what I'm talking about. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #13 February 1, 2006 Good catch, everyone catches someone at some time, its important to look out for your fellow jumpers. I would recommend that you don't just grab people's gear, though. That will greatly upset folks. You might want to just point to it and tell them. If they blow you off, then maybe something a little more "agressive" is needed to tell them.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
azureriders 0 #14 February 1, 2006 QuoteI would recommend that you don't just grab people's gear, though. That will greatly upset folks. I agree, but like I said before, I know this guy well enough that I could have snatched him around however and he would have been ok with it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
canedraw4 0 #15 February 1, 2006 Of course, not every jump with a misroute ends in a fatality. Allthough last weekend i got spanked so hard i saw my legs in the canopy and im sure that would have. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brianfry713 0 #16 February 1, 2006 Anyone not a student caught with a misrouted chest strap (or other major f-up) should owe a case of beer to the DZ.BASE 1224, Senior Parachute Rigger, CPL ASEL IA, AGI, IGI USPA Coach & UPT Tandem Instructor, PRO, Altimaster Field Support Representative Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lisamariewillbe 1 #17 February 1, 2006 Why the DZ? If it were caught on me, id give it to the person who very well just saved my lifeSudsy Fist: i don't think i'd ever say this Sudsy Fist: but you're looking damn sudsydoable in this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hookitt 1 #18 February 1, 2006 I've caught several. The person fixed it, that's good enough for me.My grammar sometimes resembles that of magnetic refrigerator poetry... Ghetto Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
azureriders 0 #19 February 1, 2006 It did feel good as many of you have said. He fixed it, that was good enough for me. No beer needed, as I don't drink the stuff. Yes, I have been told that you can not be a skydiver if you are not a beer drinker, but I am tring really hard. The only thing I think anyone owes for haveing someone look out for them, is the same in return. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
happythoughts 0 #20 February 2, 2006 QuoteI've caught several. The person fixed it, that's good enough for me. Me too. I usually lean over and whisper it to them. They quietly fix it. I have seen it, at least once, every year. The only one that irritated me was the one in 2004 that met me after the debrief and said, "I probably would have been ok". I sure wouldn't want to bet my life on it. I check myself. Then, I visually check everyone that I can see. Chest straps and cutaway handles. Every ride. Ask anyone who has been on a plane with me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnMitchell 16 #21 February 2, 2006 QuoteI caught my first misrouted chest strap on another jumper last week. I told him about it, he looked down at it, said "yeah" and fixed it. Wow, not even a "thank you"? Oh well, good job anyway. Thanks from all the rest of us. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnMitchell 16 #22 February 2, 2006 Quote I check myself. Then, I visually check everyone that I can see. Chest straps and cutaway handles. Every ride. Ask anyone who has been on a plane with me. Honestly, women, when we're sneaking peeks at your chests on the way to altitude, it's only for safety reasons. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
happythoughts 0 #23 February 2, 2006 QuoteQuote I check myself. Then, I visually check everyone that I can see. Chest straps and cutaway handles. Every ride. Ask anyone who has been on a plane with me. Honestly, women, when we're sneaking peeks at your chests on the way to altitude, it's only for safety reasons. I had a woman give me one of the "looks". I told her, "Gear check. Buy me a beer later and we'll discuss your boobs." Either Johnny or I usually announce, "11,000 ft people, gear checks. Cheststraps, cutaway handles, bridles, and pins." I wish more people would. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MB38 0 #24 February 2, 2006 QuoteQuoteI caught my first misrouted chest strap on another jumper last week. I told him about it, he looked down at it, said "yeah" and fixed it. Wow, not even a "thank you"? Nope, but doesn't bother me. It was an interesting experience... I've formed such a habit of looking at every chest strap I ever see... on the ground, in the air... that when I saw one that was misrouted it was downright shocking. I think my heart skipped a beat before I told him.I really don't know what I'm talking about. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites