JoeWeber 2,720 #51 June 28, 2024 (edited) Just now, JerryBaumchen said: Hi Nigel, I think Jill needs to have a serious sit-down & discussion tonite. Jerry Baumchen Agreed, 100%. I hate it but there it is. Also, Kamala needs to get real. Bottom line: Joe looked like a real old man who is well meaning but no one you'd have drive you home late at night. It felt like we are living through the Rise and Fall of the American Republic. Edited June 28, 2024 by JoeWeber Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,720 #52 June 28, 2024 Just now, brenthutch said: When even MSNBC is savaging Biden’s performance it is a rough night for the Ds. Rough night for America and our Democracy. It won't harm your impeccable credentials to pretend for just a minute you care about something more than winning. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,190 #53 June 28, 2024 2 minutes ago, JoeWeber said: It felt like we are living through the Rise and Fall of the American Republic. Right now there seems to be a choice for people to make. The chaos and carelessness of Trump or what essentially appears to be some sort of caretaker in the Oval Office guiding what is left of Biden's mind. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,720 #54 June 28, 2024 Just now, gowlerk said: Right now there seems to be a choice for people to make. The chaos and carelessness of Trump or what essentially appears to be some sort of caretaker in the Oval Office guiding what is left of Biden's mind. Some sort of caretaker really plants the landing. He's got to go. He looked old, he talked old, he was less in control of his disability, and even his hands looked old. The best 5 years of your life do not come at the end and even morons know that much. Fuck. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,362 #55 June 28, 2024 5 minutes ago, gowlerk said: Right now there seems to be a choice for people to make. The chaos and carelessness of Trump or what essentially appears to be some sort of caretaker in the Oval Office guiding what is left of Biden's mind. Hi Ken, While it is commentary, I watched the NBCNews wrap-up. Kristen Welker, who is the hostess of MEET THE PRESS, was reading from some notes of hers about various members of the DNC cringing & openly discussing moving to a different nominee. * I fully expect to see Joe call it quits after the 4th. I'll submit Gavin Newsom & Gretchen Whitmer for my choice going forward. I do not want see a contest thru the primaries & right up to the DNC convention. IMO the smart move it to pick a two-some soon & get them out there taking on Trump. Jerry Baumchen * This was just as the debate ended. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,362 #56 June 28, 2024 5 minutes ago, JoeWeber said: Some sort of caretaker really plants the landing. He's got to go. He looked old, he talked old, he was less in control of his disability, and even his hands looked old. The best 5 years of your life do not come at the end and even morons know that much. Fuck. Hi Joe, I am no political guru, but IMO for those undecided who have concerns about Biden making it thru another four yrs; well, he made their minds up for them. I'm two yrs older than Joe & I could have out-performed him by a couple of lengths. Jerry Baumchen 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,720 #57 June 28, 2024 Just now, JerryBaumchen said: Hi Ken, While it is commentary, I watched the NBCNews wrap-up. Kristen Welker, who is the hostess of MEET THE PRESS, was reading from some notes of hers about various members of the DNC cringing & openly discussing moving to a different nominee. * I fully expect to see Joe call it quits after the 4th. I'll submit Gavin Newsom & Gretchen Whitmer for my choice going forward. I do not want see a contest thru the primaries & right up to the DNC convention. IMO the smart move it to pick a two-some soon & get them out there taking on Trump. Jerry Baumchen * This was just as the debate ended. Funny, I also fronted Newsome/Whitmer this evening. But lets not forget the selfishness of Ginsburg. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,190 #58 June 28, 2024 34 minutes ago, JerryBaumchen said: I fully expect to see Joe call it quits after the 4th. He will be under a lot of pressure. Jimmy Carter only served one term. He is still eligible. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,720 #59 June 28, 2024 Just now, gowlerk said: He will be under a lot of pressure. Jimmy Carter only served one term. He is still eligible. Excellent point. Yes he's 99 but why not? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,190 #60 June 28, 2024 6 hours ago, JoeWeber said: Excellent point. Yes he's 99 but why not? Trump vs Clinton rematch? Bring in RFK? The mechanics of choosing a nominee who has not been through the primary election process could be either a positive or a negative. A fresh face could possibly be just the ticket to demolish an extraordinarily week DJT. The D party is quite likely to tear itself apart working through this. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIGUN 1,307 #61 June 28, 2024 (edited) 7 hours ago, JerryBaumchen said: I'm two yrs older than Joe & I could have out-performed him by a couple of lengths. Jerry Baumchen for President. Edited June 28, 2024 by BIGUN 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIGUN 1,307 #62 June 28, 2024 (edited) I would vote FOR Gov. Wes Moore. EDIT: “We are proud to endorse Wes Moore because he will be a governor who serves all Marylanders,” said the National Security Leaders for America. “After years of service to this nation, we know moral courage when we see it. Wes Moore has the moral courage necessary to take on the most pressing threats to our essential yet fragile democracy. He is a patriot who understands that America is more than Red and Blue. He understands his job is to serve his country, not his party.” Course, I don't know if a moderate from either party is going to cut it. It's all just a schtick. Edited June 28, 2024 by BIGUN Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 444 #63 June 28, 2024 I don’t know why you guys are shocked, the man has been in obvious decline for years. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIGUN 1,307 #64 June 28, 2024 9 minutes ago, brenthutch said: the man has been in obvious decline for years. I've been saying the same about you for some time and you don't listen either. <Had to do it.> 5 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lippy 918 #65 June 28, 2024 14 minutes ago, brenthutch said: I don’t know why you guys are shocked, the man has been in obvious decline for years. Who is shocked? Contrary to what the Fine Folks of Fox are telling you, it's not like everybody on the left thought Joe was 47 years old. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,026 #66 June 28, 2024 The duffer vs the lying con-man. How can the US of A have become such a shambles? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,444 #67 June 28, 2024 25 minutes ago, brenthutch said: I don’t know why you guys are shocked, the man has been in obvious decline for years. And Trump (the other choice) is such a rising intellectual star Wendy P. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 1,149 #68 June 28, 2024 8 hours ago, JoeWeber said: Funny, I also fronted Newsome/Whitmer this evening. But lets not forget the selfishness of Ginsburg. My thoughts exactly. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 444 #69 June 28, 2024 16 minutes ago, wmw999 said: And Trump (the other choice) is such a rising intellectual star Wendy P. It’s going to be OK, we survived one Trump term we can survive another. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 1,149 #70 June 28, 2024 (edited) The bigger problem for democrats is how a weak Biden could drag down other democrats in the election. What if trump lifts up other MTGs in the GOP ticket? If they then get another SC appointment? If rump bans free and independent media, press services? Should Canada and Mexico start on border walls? 5 minutes ago, brenthutch said: It’s going to be OK, we survived one Trump term we can survive another. A second trump term is akin to a neutron bomb. The physical US will remain but the population will be brain dead or physically altered. I thought you were an "independent" and not a trump sycophant? Edited June 28, 2024 by Phil1111 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 444 #71 June 28, 2024 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Phil1111 said: The bigger problem for democrats is how a weak Biden could drag down other democrats in the election. What if trump lifts up other MTGs in the GOP ticket? If they then get another SC appointment? If rump bans free and independent media, press services? Should Canada and Mexico start on border walls? A second trump term is akin to a neutron bomb. The physical US will remain but the population will be brain dead or physically altered. The deep state will buffer us from Trump’s worst inclinations. Again take a deep breath, relax and resign yourself to a second Trump term. (BTW the country won’t elect a governor from California who looks like a cheesy televangelist) Edited June 28, 2024 by brenthutch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
johnhking1 96 #72 June 28, 2024 (edited) 9 hours ago, JerryBaumchen said: Hi Joe, I am no political guru, but IMO for those undecided who have concerns about Biden making it thru another four yrs; well, he made their minds up for them. I'm two yrs older than Joe & I could have out-performed him by a couple of lengths. Jerry Baumchen There is a lot more to age than numbers. If you look at Biden now, if he wins, what will he be like in 7 months when the his next term begins. It is time to take the keys away from grandpa. Edited June 28, 2024 by johnhking1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,190 #73 June 28, 2024 Bernie is 82. But still coherent and looks good in mittens. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,362 #74 June 28, 2024 (edited) 7 hours ago, wmw999 said: And Trump (the other choice) is such a rising intellectual star Wendy P. Hi Wendy, I'll say this about Trump: He may be going the wrong way on the race track but he is going like a bat out of hell. Also, he cannot say a seven word sentence & remember where he started. It's all red meat to his supporters. Jerry Baumchen Edited June 28, 2024 by JerryBaumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,362 #75 June 28, 2024 Hi folks, Time to run the white flag up over the White House. Re: The president had, in the first 30 minutes of the debate, fully affirmed doubts about his fitness. Democrats Face the Hard Truth: It Might Be Time to Talk About Biden’s Retirement - POLITICO Jerry Baumchen PS) Even Gen. Paulus knew when it was time to quit. Battle of Stalingrad - Wikipedia Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites