Pete1 0 #1 January 24, 2006 Anyone knows where acivilian can go through halo/ haho course? Any info on this would be very appreciated. Thanx Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 2,998 #2 January 24, 2006 >Anyone knows where acivilian can go through hilo hiho course? If you are referring to HALO/HAHO jumping: 1. Many militaries consider exiting at 13,000 and deploying at 2500 to be a HALO jump - so you may already be doing it. 2. If you are referring to a 30,000 foot jump, at least one outfit (Incredible Adventures) does these pretty regularly. I jumped with them last year at Rantoul. You need bailout O2 and you'll need to prebreathe for about 30 minutes. I think they are located in Florida; their number is 800 644-7382 3. If you are referring to the military HALO course, can't help you there. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites matthewcline 0 #3 January 24, 2006 In Memhpis area there is a group tha tdoes a Civilian HALO/HAHO and HALO Tandem Course. Just use good old Google before the Gov shuts em down.An Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites nate_1979 9 #4 January 24, 2006 I think that Skydance Skydiving in Davis, CA also does them... FGF #??? I miss the sky... There are 10 types of people in the world... those who understand binary and those who don't. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites demoss99 0 #5 January 24, 2006 http://www.halojumper.com/index.html "I know you believe you understand what you think I said, but I am not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites namgrunt 0 #6 January 24, 2006 call mike mullins at west tennessee skydiveing they teach this every so often ..59 YEARS,OVERWEIGHT,BALDIND,X-GRUNT LAST MIL. JUMP VIET-NAM(QUAN-TRI) www.dzmemories.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Pete1 0 #7 January 24, 2006 Thanks for the help, everyone is very helpfull. I tghought you need to go through some training before you do it but I guess a breefing a day before is enough. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites bmcd308 0 #8 January 24, 2006 From 30K, the briefing is not all that brief. ---------------------------------- www.jumpelvis.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites LouDiamond 1 #9 January 24, 2006 QuoteI tghought you need to go through some training before you do it but I guess a breefing a day before is enough. Idealy, you should as it it the right way to do it. However, we are all aware of the fact that it doesn't always happen that way in civilian skydiving. There is quite a bit of good info on High alti jumps posted on the forums already that a quick search will point you to. If you are interested in doing it the right way and getting a chamber ride first, scroll to the bottom of the linked web page to Military training facilities for information on how civilians can go about scheduling a chamber ride. CLICK ME"It's just skydiving..additional drama is not required" Some people dream about flying, I live my dream SKYMONKEY PUBLISHING Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites bazelos 0 #10 January 24, 2006 A two minute freefall! Damn! I'd love to try that...in 3 years time or so He who makes a beast of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jlmiracle 7 #11 January 24, 2006 QuoteIf you are interested in doing it the right way and getting a chamber ride first, scroll to the bottom of the linked web page to Military training facilities for information on how civilians can go about scheduling a chamber ride. Halo jumps have been done over and over again with out the "chamber ride". You don't have to do the chamber ride to "do it right". Call Kevin at halojumper.com JudyBe kinder than necessary because everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites LouDiamond 1 #12 January 24, 2006 QuoteHalo jumps have been done over and over again with out the "chamber ride". You don't have to do the chamber ride to "do it right". As a HALO jumper and jumpmaster for the last 13 years I strongly disagree with you. I conceded that it has and is being done in the civilian community quite regularly without having a physiological chamber test. Again, that does not make it right. If it was unimportant it wouldn't be required for those on flight or HALO status in the military or of certain civillian pilots by the FAA. Can one do a high altitude jump without the chamber? Sure. However, part of the "experience" should include a chamber ride IMO as one learns not only a lot about themselves but about the effects of altitude at levels we often find ourselves at on normal skydives. Like the saying goes...."knowing is half the battle". If one chooses to do a High alti jump and not take a chamber ride at least spend some time educating yourself on this topic as it is out there on these forums and on the net."It's just skydiving..additional drama is not required" Some people dream about flying, I live my dream SKYMONKEY PUBLISHING Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites michaelmullins 81 #13 January 24, 2006 QuoteAnyone knows where acivilian can go through halo/ haho course? Any info on this would be very appreciated. Thanx For 30,000' jumps see: http://www.halojumper.com Mike Mullins at West Tennessee Skydiving provides the aircraft support for halojumper.com For 23,000' jumps see: http://www.SkydiveKingAir.com Mike Mullins at West Tennessee Skydiving provides the aircraft support, training, and oxygen masks for these jumps. The best place and time to do these jumps is at the World Freefall Convention in Rantoul, IL. For 2006 the dates are 21-30 July 2006 See: http://www.freefall.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites freakydiver 0 #14 January 24, 2006 Hell even folks who hike our higher peaks here in colorado have adverse unexpected effects more times than not. If it were me personally - I'd want to know how my body was going to react before ever going up to alititude... -- (N.DG) "If all else fails – at least try and look under control." -- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites matthewcline 0 #15 January 24, 2006 You sure do know alot about Mr. Mullins.An Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kelpdiver 2 #16 January 24, 2006 QuoteHell even folks who hike our higher peaks here in colorado have adverse unexpected effects more times than not. If it were me personally - I'd want to know how my body was going to react before ever going up to alititude... There is a difference in exposure, though. AMS isn't just about hypoxia. At 14k, there is plenty of oxygen. But the body does some weird stuff to adapt to the lower level of it. The original poster could help us out and say where he is, and what he means by HALO. There are a lot more options for 20-24k than there are for 30k. Different risk profile too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Anvilbrother 0 #17 January 26, 2006 I am not sure if you know Kevin and his outfit, but they do a jam up job of teaching the classes before the jump. Postes r made from an iPad or iPhone. Spelling and gramhair mistakes guaranteed move along, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. 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billvon 2,998 #2 January 24, 2006 >Anyone knows where acivilian can go through hilo hiho course? If you are referring to HALO/HAHO jumping: 1. Many militaries consider exiting at 13,000 and deploying at 2500 to be a HALO jump - so you may already be doing it. 2. If you are referring to a 30,000 foot jump, at least one outfit (Incredible Adventures) does these pretty regularly. I jumped with them last year at Rantoul. You need bailout O2 and you'll need to prebreathe for about 30 minutes. I think they are located in Florida; their number is 800 644-7382 3. If you are referring to the military HALO course, can't help you there. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
matthewcline 0 #3 January 24, 2006 In Memhpis area there is a group tha tdoes a Civilian HALO/HAHO and HALO Tandem Course. Just use good old Google before the Gov shuts em down.An Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nate_1979 9 #4 January 24, 2006 I think that Skydance Skydiving in Davis, CA also does them... FGF #??? I miss the sky... There are 10 types of people in the world... those who understand binary and those who don't. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
demoss99 0 #5 January 24, 2006 http://www.halojumper.com/index.html "I know you believe you understand what you think I said, but I am not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
namgrunt 0 #6 January 24, 2006 call mike mullins at west tennessee skydiveing they teach this every so often ..59 YEARS,OVERWEIGHT,BALDIND,X-GRUNT LAST MIL. JUMP VIET-NAM(QUAN-TRI) www.dzmemories.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pete1 0 #7 January 24, 2006 Thanks for the help, everyone is very helpfull. I tghought you need to go through some training before you do it but I guess a breefing a day before is enough. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bmcd308 0 #8 January 24, 2006 From 30K, the briefing is not all that brief. ---------------------------------- www.jumpelvis.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LouDiamond 1 #9 January 24, 2006 QuoteI tghought you need to go through some training before you do it but I guess a breefing a day before is enough. Idealy, you should as it it the right way to do it. However, we are all aware of the fact that it doesn't always happen that way in civilian skydiving. There is quite a bit of good info on High alti jumps posted on the forums already that a quick search will point you to. If you are interested in doing it the right way and getting a chamber ride first, scroll to the bottom of the linked web page to Military training facilities for information on how civilians can go about scheduling a chamber ride. CLICK ME"It's just skydiving..additional drama is not required" Some people dream about flying, I live my dream SKYMONKEY PUBLISHING Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bazelos 0 #10 January 24, 2006 A two minute freefall! Damn! I'd love to try that...in 3 years time or so He who makes a beast of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jlmiracle 7 #11 January 24, 2006 QuoteIf you are interested in doing it the right way and getting a chamber ride first, scroll to the bottom of the linked web page to Military training facilities for information on how civilians can go about scheduling a chamber ride. Halo jumps have been done over and over again with out the "chamber ride". You don't have to do the chamber ride to "do it right". Call Kevin at halojumper.com JudyBe kinder than necessary because everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LouDiamond 1 #12 January 24, 2006 QuoteHalo jumps have been done over and over again with out the "chamber ride". You don't have to do the chamber ride to "do it right". As a HALO jumper and jumpmaster for the last 13 years I strongly disagree with you. I conceded that it has and is being done in the civilian community quite regularly without having a physiological chamber test. Again, that does not make it right. If it was unimportant it wouldn't be required for those on flight or HALO status in the military or of certain civillian pilots by the FAA. Can one do a high altitude jump without the chamber? Sure. However, part of the "experience" should include a chamber ride IMO as one learns not only a lot about themselves but about the effects of altitude at levels we often find ourselves at on normal skydives. Like the saying goes...."knowing is half the battle". If one chooses to do a High alti jump and not take a chamber ride at least spend some time educating yourself on this topic as it is out there on these forums and on the net."It's just skydiving..additional drama is not required" Some people dream about flying, I live my dream SKYMONKEY PUBLISHING Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
michaelmullins 81 #13 January 24, 2006 QuoteAnyone knows where acivilian can go through halo/ haho course? Any info on this would be very appreciated. Thanx For 30,000' jumps see: http://www.halojumper.com Mike Mullins at West Tennessee Skydiving provides the aircraft support for halojumper.com For 23,000' jumps see: http://www.SkydiveKingAir.com Mike Mullins at West Tennessee Skydiving provides the aircraft support, training, and oxygen masks for these jumps. The best place and time to do these jumps is at the World Freefall Convention in Rantoul, IL. For 2006 the dates are 21-30 July 2006 See: http://www.freefall.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freakydiver 0 #14 January 24, 2006 Hell even folks who hike our higher peaks here in colorado have adverse unexpected effects more times than not. If it were me personally - I'd want to know how my body was going to react before ever going up to alititude... -- (N.DG) "If all else fails – at least try and look under control." -- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
matthewcline 0 #15 January 24, 2006 You sure do know alot about Mr. Mullins.An Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #16 January 24, 2006 QuoteHell even folks who hike our higher peaks here in colorado have adverse unexpected effects more times than not. If it were me personally - I'd want to know how my body was going to react before ever going up to alititude... There is a difference in exposure, though. AMS isn't just about hypoxia. At 14k, there is plenty of oxygen. But the body does some weird stuff to adapt to the lower level of it. The original poster could help us out and say where he is, and what he means by HALO. There are a lot more options for 20-24k than there are for 30k. Different risk profile too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anvilbrother 0 #17 January 26, 2006 I am not sure if you know Kevin and his outfit, but they do a jam up job of teaching the classes before the jump. Postes r made from an iPad or iPhone. Spelling and gramhair mistakes guaranteed move along, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites