Trump

[jaybird18c 24]

5 minutes ago, jakee said:

People with a functional sense of morality care. He is an unrepentent criminal. He is a rapist. He is a conman. He is a thief, including a thief from veterans charities, and he is a thief and rampant profiteer from his office in Government. An office that belongs not to him, but to the people. And you want to reward him for that, because you want to feel like your team is winning.

Everyone who worked closely with Trump in Government and isn't still part of his entourage says a 2nd Trump presidency would threaten the fabric of America's constitutional government. The Chairman of the Joint Chiefs called him a fascist and a wannabe dictator. Why do you think that's good?

Firstly, if he was convicted of all the things you mentioned, he wouldn’t be walking around. That’s some exaggerated BS. Secondly, I don’t want a king. I want a President who is competent to lead and further an agenda. He’s just a person. The microsecond I see that he isn’t doing what I want, I want him gone! I can’t stand Trump. I’ve never voted for Trump in a primary. I don’t like him personally. He’s just a tool in my opinion, a means to an end. 

[jaybird18c 24]

How do you take someone seriously who changes their name to Charlemagne tha god? He’s going to interview Kamala Harris. And this is her pathetic attempt to pick up votes.

[lippy 918]

14 minutes ago, jaybird18c said:

How do you take someone seriously who changes their name to Charlemagne tha god? He’s going to interview Kamala Harris. And this is her pathetic attempt to pick up votes.

Millions of people subscribe to his podcast and she's trying to reach the people where they are.

Speaking of not being able to take someone seriously, have you watched a Trump rally lately?

[wmw999 2,447]

1 hour ago, jaybird18c said:

Jeff Bezos and Amazon. He’s liberal. You like him though, right?

Nope. He’s an asshole too. He has his points (relatively free rein to the Washington Post), just as Musk has his.

Wendy P. 

[jaybird18c 24]

2 minutes ago, lippy said:

Millions of people subscribe to his podcast and she's trying to reach the people where they are.

Speaking of not being able to take someone seriously, have you watched a Trump rally lately?

I have watched a Trump rally (not in person) and democrats should be worried. Doesn’t matter if they’re not though. Your next president is going to be Donald Trump either way. It will be the end of democracy, civilization will be in chaos, human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together…mass hysteria! (According to the left’s useful idiots, that is.) It’ll be great! :)

[jaybird18c 24]

20 minutes ago, wmw999 said:

Nope. He’s an asshole too. He has his points (relatively free rein to the Washington Post), just as Musk has his.

Wendy P. 

Right! But my point is….say he had the vision to create a device which actually interacts with the human brain and allows paralyzed persons to walk again. Does it matter that he’s an asshole? I mean…of course it would be nice if he wasn’t. However, the paralyzed person probably doesn’t care. He/she just wants to walk. Trump is an asshole. It would be nice if he wasn’t. I wish we could have a president who we could all respect again. I don’t think those exist. However, if he furthers an agenda that conservatives want, again…who cares? I mean…to conservatives, that is.

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[wmw999 2,447]

To me, his willingness to challenge our tradition of peaceful transition of power with violence and lawsuits (remember -- they ALL failed), and to call everyone else a liar while he lies too is enough to disqualify Trump from holding office, no matter what he promises. Because whatever he promises, he probably won't do unless it benefits him personally somehow. That's how he seems to operate. He can't see how he's winning if he doesn't see who's losing, and to me that's a problem too, because it's not a long step from there to, instead of trying to better yourself, just stepping on someone else to make yourself feel better.

I don't believe America should be a world bully, imposing its values on others (the way the colonial European powers did for hundreds of years), and I don't think it should have a bully for president; someone who is perfectly willing to use his wealth to make sure that weaker people, who may be right, lose. He calls that winning. It's like the cigarette companies winning, by waiting for the people suing them to die of cancer, or for their families to run out of money so they couldn't keep the lawsuit going.

Wendy P.

[jakee 1,489]

56 minutes ago, jaybird18c said:

Firstly, if he was convicted of all the things you mentioned, he wouldn’t be walking around. That’s some exaggerated BS. 

He was found to be a rapist in a court of law. He was found to be thief from charity in court, and was banned from ever being involved in charity again. The huge quantities of US government property he deliberately stole was found in his house. Where is the exaggeration? 

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Secondly, I don’t want a king. I want a President who is competent to lead and further an agenda. He’s just a person. The microsecond I see that he isn’t doing what I want, I want him gone! 

So you want him to deny disaster relief to States that didn't vote for him? You want him to attempt to overturn legitimate elections? You want him to abandon Ukraine to Putin? You want him to wield absolute power from the White House with no procedural or even legal checks or balances?

[jaybird18c 24]

Take Kamala Harris. Whether or not you’re for it, she’s going to be Joe Biden 2.0. Every honest and intelligent person knows this. She can’t articulate anything with substance. Who the hell cares how much “joy” she brings to the table? Who cares about her gender or skin color? What does all that superficial crap matter?

[jakee 1,489]

24 minutes ago, jaybird18c said:

However, if he furthers an agenda that conservatives want, again…who cares? I mean…to conservatives, that is.

People who have morals.

If it truly doesn't matter to you what a scumbag he is, why don't you admit what a despicable, criminal scumbag he is? We all know it's true. You know it's true. So why do you have to pretend it isn't when you supposedly don't care?

[jaybird18c 24]

3 minutes ago, wmw999 said:

I don't believe America should be a world bully, imposing its values on others (the way the colonial European powers did for hundreds of years), and I don't think it should have a bully for president; someone who is perfectly willing to use his wealth to make sure that weaker people, who may be right, lose. He calls that winning. It's like the cigarette companies winning, by waiting for the people suing them to die of cancer, or for their families to run out of money so they couldn't keep the lawsuit going.

Wendy P.

And you’ll vote for Kamala Harris and hope her joy overcomes the world’s hate of Israel and America. Ok…

[jakee 1,489]

53 minutes ago, jaybird18c said:

How do you take someone seriously who changes their name to Charlemagne tha god? He’s going to interview Kamala Harris. And this is her pathetic attempt to pick up votes.

You must be so proud that Trump isn't appearing on any random assholes' podcasts. Well, I'm sure there's a really coherent reason why only one of those things is bad.

[jaybird18c 24]

Just now, jakee said:

People who have morals.

If it truly doesn't matter to you what a scumbag he is, why don't you admit what a despicable, criminal scumbag he is? We all know it's true. You know it's true. So why do you have to pretend it isn't when you supposedly don't care?

“Do you hear what you’re saying?”  I wouldn’t invite Donald Trump inside my house. I certainly wouldn’t leave him alone with my daughter. However, you know as well as I do that there’s a biased concerted legal effort to bring him down. I’m not saying he’s innocent. I just don’t believe that he’s as guilty as they say he is. That conviction is going to be overturned. Bet!

[jakee 1,489]

2 minutes ago, jaybird18c said:

And you’ll vote for Kamala Harris and hope her joy overcomes the world’s hate of Israel and America. Ok…

In what way does that make any sense to you?

[jakee 1,489]

Just now, jaybird18c said:

I certainly wouldn’t leave him alone with my daughter. 

Why not?

[jaybird18c 24]

4 minutes ago, jakee said:

People who have morals.

If it truly doesn't matter to you what a scumbag he is, why don't you admit what a despicable, criminal scumbag he is? We all know it's true. You know it's true. So why do you have to pretend it isn't when you supposedly don't care?

Are you a man of morality Jakee?

[jaybird18c 24]

1 minute ago, jakee said:

In what way does that make any sense to you?

It doesn’t to me? Again, do you hear what you’re saying?

[jaybird18c 24]

1 minute ago, jakee said:

Why not?

Hey! Do you believe in the Flat Earth Theory?

[jakee 1,489]

Just now, jaybird18c said:

Are you a man of morality Jakee?

Sure. I would ask you the same, but you've already made it very clear that you're a man of religion instead and that they are not the same thing.

[jakee 1,489]

1 minute ago, jaybird18c said:

It doesn’t to me? Again, do you hear what you’re saying?

Why would Kamala's joy need to overcome hatred of Israel? How does that make any sense to you?

[jaybird18c 24]

Just now, jakee said:

Sure. I would ask you the same, but you've already made it very clear that you're a man of religion instead and that they are not the same thing.

If you’ve come to a conclusion, why did you “consider” asking the question?

[jakee 1,489]

3 minutes ago, jaybird18c said:

I certainly wouldn’t leave him alone with my daughter. 

Why wouldn't you do that? Do you believe he has a history of sexually assaulting women he is alone with?

[jaybird18c 24]

1 minute ago, jakee said:

Why would Kamala's joy need to overcome hatred of Israel? How does that make any sense to you?

Because she can articulate nothing of substance. All they’re saying about her is how she’s so joyful.

[kallend 2,027]

2 hours ago, jaybird18c said:

You sure do reference Christian morality a whole lot for lot for an atheist. 

That's what 13 years of mandatory indoctrination did for me. I probably know the bible better than the majority of self-styled Christians. 

It also made me realize that religion is bunk.

[jaybird18c 24]

Just now, kallend said:

That's what 13 years of mandatory indoctrination did for me. I probably know the bible better than the majority of self-styled Christians. 

It also made me realize that religion is bunk.

Every atheist I talk to says they’ve read the whole bible and know it better than everyone else, especially if they’re formerly Catholic.