jakee 1,489 #801 October 15, 2024 (edited) 2 minutes ago, jaybird18c said: Because she can articulate nothing of substance. You know that's a lie. You know that when it comes to articulation Trump is significantly worse. And you know it isn't relevant to your point. The president articulating things doesn't keep Israel safe. Billions of dollars worth of high tech armaments keep Israel safe. So again, how does what you are saying make any sense to you? Edited October 15, 2024 by jakee 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,026 #802 October 15, 2024 7 minutes ago, jaybird18c said: I wouldn’t invite Donald Trump inside my house. But you want him inside the nation's house. You want a rapist thief/con-man to represent the values of our nation to the rest of the world. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaybird18c 24 #803 October 15, 2024 1 minute ago, jakee said: You know that's a lie. You know that when it comes to articulation Trump is significantly worse. And you know it isn't relevant to your point. The president articulating things doesn't keep Israel safe. Billions of dollars worth of high tech armaments keep Israel safe. So again, how does what you are saying make any sense to you? You’re saying that a President’s words don’t mean anything? You’re saying that it doesn’t set direction in policy? “Mr. Gorbachev, Tear down this wall!” - Ronald Reagan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #804 October 15, 2024 47 minutes ago, wmw999 said: Nope. He’s an asshole too. He has his points (relatively free rein to the Washington Post), just as Musk has his. Wendy P. Oh, you're just envious of the great pay and plush working conditions he provides his employees. ;-) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 798 #805 October 15, 2024 2 minutes ago, jakee said: You know that's a lie. You know that when it comes to articulation Trump is significantly worse. And you know it isn't relevant to your point. The president articulating things doesn't keep Israel safe. Billions of dollars worth of high tech armaments keep Israel safe. So again, how does what you are saying make any sense to you? Meanwhile, Felon Trump can "dance" at his town halls for over 30 minutes. OK, it's not actually dancing, but he moves around the stage gloating at the admiration he gets from the magats in the crowd. Fucking weird. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaybird18c 24 #806 October 15, 2024 2 minutes ago, kallend said: But you want him inside the nation's house. You want a rapist thief/con-man to represent the values of our nation to the rest of the world. Your hyperbole doesn’t equate to truth. I want him to do his job. And he’s proven that he’ll keep his word in that regard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaybird18c 24 #807 October 15, 2024 1 minute ago, normiss said: Meanwhile, Felon Trump can "dance" at his town halls for over 30 minutes. OK, it's not actually dancing, but he moves around the stage gloating at the admiration he gets from the magats in the crowd. Fucking weird. You want to bet that it will get overturned in court? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,026 #808 October 15, 2024 1 minute ago, jaybird18c said: Your hyperbole doesn’t equate to truth. I want him to do his job. And he’s proven that he’ll keep his word in that regard. Over 31,000 well documented lies from Trump from Jan 2017 to Jan 2021. A man of his word? You are very easily fooled. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,489 #809 October 15, 2024 3 minutes ago, jaybird18c said: You’re saying that a President’s words don’t mean anything? You’re saying that it doesn’t set direction in policy? Not to Israel they don't. As long as they keep getting what they want they'll keep doing what they want. Besides, what would Kamala say that would be any different to any other President? Biden's admistration has been entirely pro-Israel and she is part of it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaybird18c 24 #810 October 15, 2024 By the way, President Clinton looks as bad as President Biden. He looks like he’s about to keel over and die on national television. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,489 #811 October 15, 2024 2 minutes ago, jaybird18c said: You want to bet that it will get overturned in court? Why wouldn't you leave him alone with your daughter? Is it because you know he has a history of sexually assaulting women? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaybird18c 24 #812 October 15, 2024 1 minute ago, kallend said: Over 31,000 well documented lies from Trump from Jan 2017 to Jan 2021. A man of his word? You are very easily fooled. Over 33,000 deleted emails by Hillary Clinton. How has she avoided prison? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rifleman 70 #813 October 15, 2024 15 minutes ago, jaybird18c said: Are you a man of morality Jakee? A Rabbi is teaching his student the Talmud and explains god created everything in this world to be appreciated, since everything is here to teach us a lesson. The clever student asks “What lesson can we learn from atheists? Why did god create them?” The Rabbi responds “God created atheists to teach us the most important lesson of them all – the lesson of true compassion. You see, when an atheist performs an act of charity, visits someone who is sick, helps someone who is in need, and cares for the world, he is not doing so because of some religious teaching. He does not believe that god commanded him to perform this act. In fact, he does not believe in God at all, so his acts are based on an inner sense of morality. And look at the kindness he can bestow upon others simply because he feels it to be right.” “This means” the Rabbi continued “that when someone reaches out to you for help, you should never say ‘I pray that god will help you.’ instead for the moment, you should become an atheist, imagine that there is no god who can help, and say ‘I will help you.'” 5 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,026 #814 October 15, 2024 Just now, jaybird18c said: <Nonsense about Trump keeping his word.> Tell us how Trump kept his word about having a plan to replace Obamacare. Tell us how Trump kept his word about releasing his tax returns. Tell us how Trump kept his word about Mexico paying for a wall. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaybird18c 24 #815 October 15, 2024 2 minutes ago, jakee said: Not to Israel they don't. As long as they keep getting what they want they'll keep doing what they want. Besides, what would Kamala say that would be any different to any other President? Biden's admistration has been entirely pro-Israel and she is part of it. Imagine if things were reversed and Israel had the money and power to influence the United States. The US is attacked as during 9/11. Israel then wants to limit our response. How would you feel about that? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaybird18c 24 #816 October 15, 2024 3 minutes ago, jakee said: Why wouldn't you leave him alone with your daughter? Is it because you know he has a history of sexually assaulting women? So did Bill Clinton, but you voted for him right? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,026 #817 October 15, 2024 2 minutes ago, jaybird18c said: Over 33,000 deleted emails by Hillary Clinton. How has she avoided prison? So I won't vote for her. Last time I checked she wasn't a candidate in this election. More diversion. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaybird18c 24 #818 October 15, 2024 1 minute ago, kallend said: So I won't vote for her. Last time I checked she wasn't a candidate in this election. More diversion. I’ll bet you did vote for her in the past though, right? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,026 #819 October 15, 2024 Just now, jaybird18c said: I’ll bet you did vote for her in the past though, right? Wrong. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,026 #820 October 15, 2024 11 minutes ago, jaybird18c said: Your hyperbole doesn’t equate to truth. I want him to do his job. And he’s proven that he’ll keep his word in that regard. Tell us how Trump kept his word about having a plan to replace Obamacare. Tell us how Trump kept his word about releasing his tax returns. Tell us how Trump kept his word about Mexico paying for a wall. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,444 #821 October 15, 2024 You said that you think Trump can bring you a conservative view of America. I have a couple of questions -- one, why didn't he last time, particularly when he had the House and Senate too? Why wasn't he willing to deal with the Democrats who were willing to deal with him, and giving him a part-of-the-cake bill for border control? And why was he unwilling to have the bipartisan border deal go through this year? He plays hardball politics, at the expense of the American people, and I see that as a problem. The second on is what do you see as a conservative-led America? Do I have the same rights I did before? Do I have the same respect as a human being as I had before, or am I more subject to someone else's norms? I see a country where people can, in fact, be gay and happy about it; a country where access and opportunity are there, rather than controlled so that only the 'right' decisions can be made (even when those decisions don't take modern situations or technology, or even human nature, into account). I see a country where fear isn't a driving force. I see a country where the transition of power for each and every publicly elected job is peaceful, rather than dependent on who has the deepest pockets to sue for victory. To me, that last is one of the single most important things that makes America great; I've lived where that wasn't true, and there was a lot more fear. Fear weakens and destroys people; it's a blunt tool of limited power. Wendy P. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaybird18c 24 #822 October 15, 2024 1 minute ago, kallend said: Wrong. So who did you vote for? Or did you just not vote? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,489 #823 October 15, 2024 2 minutes ago, jaybird18c said: Imagine if things were reversed and Israel had the money and power to influence the United States. The US is attacked as during 9/11. Israel then wants to limit our response. How would you feel about that? If they were providing all the weapons for free? I'd think they had a point. Regardless, what does that have to do with Israel having to rely on Kamala's joy for defense? They'll have Kamala's billions of dollars worth of weapons, as they have Biden's billions of dollars of weapons, as they had Trump's, as they had... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,444 #824 October 15, 2024 9 minutes ago, jaybird18c said: Over 33,000 deleted emails by Hillary Clinton. How has she avoided prison? She was investigated in and out the wazoo, by two congressional committees that were bound and determined to find something indictable. They were unable to. That should say something. Wendy P. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,489 #825 October 15, 2024 5 minutes ago, jaybird18c said: So did Bill Clinton, but you voted for him right? I was not of voting age during those elections. Certainly wouldn't knowing what I do now. But again, that's your projection assuming that everyone else is willing to vote in such a self interested, amoral way as you. Where would your line be? We already know that you realise he is a sex offender and still want to reward him for it. What's the limit? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites