gowlerk 2,192 #1001 November 5, 2024 3 minutes ago, Phil1111 said: Do you think that Tucker is angling for a job in a possible trump administration? One next to Kennedy? It is only a few years ago that there was talk of him as a strong contender for the R nomination for POTUS. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,991 #1002 November 5, 2024 7 minutes ago, gowlerk said: It is only a few years ago that there was talk of him as a strong contender for the R nomination for POTUS. Heck, have him cheat on his wife, and get himself a rape conviction and he's in! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,991 #1003 November 5, 2024 And a note on Carlson's latest rant: "what was the moment we can point to that nuclear technology was invented? I’ve never met a person who can isolate the moment where nuclear technology became known to man." I mean - really? I could give him five points that nuclear technology was "invented" from the discovery of ionizing radiation, to the discovery of natural radioactivity, to the first sustained nuclear reaction in a squash court in Chicago, to Einstein's letter, to the first weapons test, all the way to the "demon core" which was an object lesson on what NOT to do with nuclear materials. And I'm not even in the field. Did these people ever go to high school? I mean, they cover this in high school physics. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #1004 November 5, 2024 8 minutes ago, billvon said: And a note on Carlson's latest rant: "what was the moment we can point to that nuclear technology was invented? I’ve never met a person who can isolate the moment where nuclear technology became known to man." I mean - really? I could give him five points that nuclear technology was "invented" from the discovery of ionizing radiation, to the discovery of natural radioactivity, to the first sustained nuclear reaction in a squash court in Chicago, to Einstein's letter, to the first weapons test, all the way to the "demon core" which was an object lesson on what NOT to do with nuclear materials. And I'm not even in the field. Did these people ever go to high school? I mean, they cover this in high school physics. "I love the poorly educated!" 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,447 #1005 November 5, 2024 1 hour ago, Phil1111 said: Do you think that Tucker is angling for a job in a possible trump administration? One next to Kennedy? The new Ministry of Information Wendy P. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,027 #1006 November 5, 2024 59 minutes ago, billvon said: And a note on Carlson's latest rant: "what was the moment we can point to that nuclear technology was invented? I’ve never met a person who can isolate the moment where nuclear technology became known to man." I mean - really? I could give him five points that nuclear technology was "invented" from the discovery of ionizing radiation, to the discovery of natural radioactivity, to the first sustained nuclear reaction in a squash court in Chicago, to Einstein's letter, to the first weapons test, all the way to the "demon core" which was an object lesson on what NOT to do with nuclear materials. And I'm not even in the field. Did these people ever go to high school? I mean, they cover this in high school physics. Really, Bill, discovery isn't invention. Einstein's letter didn't invent anything either. How can you omit the Frisch- Peierls memorandum? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frisch–Peierls_memorandum Outlined the design of a practical gun bomb and showed how it would work. "Little Boy". THAT was invention. Tolman and Neddermeyer can be said to have invented the implosion bomb ("Fat Man". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #1007 November 5, 2024 13 minutes ago, kallend said: Really, Bill, discovery isn't invention. Einstein's letter didn't invent anything either. How can you omit the Frisch- Peierls memorandum? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frisch–Peierls_memorandum Outlined the design of a practical gun bomb and showed how it would work. "Little Boy". THAT was invention. Tolman and Neddermeyer can be said to have invented the implosion bomb ("Fat Man". see, you can't isolate it, so it must be aliens...or demons. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,363 #1008 November 5, 2024 2 hours ago, Phil1111 said: trump's bestie president Putin is now the chief suspect in a aircraft bombing plot. "Russia behind plot to plant bombs on cargo planes, Western official says The case is the latest example of a wider Russian sabotage campaign to disrupt Western support for Ukraine, officials say." "Russia was responsible for sending two incendiary devices to DHL logistics hubs in Germany and the United Kingdom in July as part of a wider sabotage campaign to possibly start fires aboard aircraft bound for North America, a Western security official told NBC News....Polish authorities have arrested four people and are searching for two more in connection with the case, according to government officials and Polish media." There is no word yet as to why Canada was singled out. Canada sent several WW2 .303 bolt action rifles to Ukraine and some worn out clothing from the Korean war. Which is all that Canada had to send after the budget cuts to the military. Hi Phil, Re: start fires aboard aircraft bound for North America Like the Lockerbie aircraft bombing, they want them to go off over the Atlantic Ocean. Due to some delays, after loading, the Lockerbie bomb went off over land, allowing the investigation to begin. Jerry Baumchen 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,991 #1009 November 5, 2024 22 minutes ago, kallend said: Really, Bill, discovery isn't invention. In nuclear weapons development, discovery is most of the innovation that allowed the weapon to be built. We didn't build the first successful nuclear weapon by trying dozens of designs until one worked - we worked at the science until we could be 99% sure the first one worked. In fact, we never even tested the gun design; we were so sure it would work that the first and second ones ever tested were the ones dropped on Japan. In terms of technological development, you could point to the Krytron triggers, which allowed implosion weapons to work - but that's not even nuclear technology. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,363 #1010 November 5, 2024 Hi folks, Hm, usually, you cannot shut him up: Donald Trump is refusing to say how he voted on Florida’s abortion measure — and getting testy about it. In the words of Jack Nickolson: You can't handle the truth. Trump refuses to divulge abortion vote, snaps at reporter - oregonlive.com It must be something about that comment regarding women: Like it or not. A real man - NOT. Jerry Baumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #1011 November 5, 2024 6 minutes ago, JerryBaumchen said: Hi folks, Hm, usually, you cannot shut him up: Donald Trump is refusing to say how he voted on Florida’s abortion measure — and getting testy about it. In the words of Jack Nickolson: You can't handle the truth. Trump refuses to divulge abortion vote, snaps at reporter - oregonlive.com It must be something about that comment regarding women: Like it or not. A real man - NOT. Jerry Baumchen Well, that is easy: a) If he says he voted against it, the women are outraged. b) If he says he voted for it, the American Taliban are outraged. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 643 #1012 November 5, 2024 On 9/22/2024 at 3:48 PM, nigel99 said: Obviously the Rhodesian situation was not right, but it is long and complicated and it’s far from black and white. The point was the West Interfered and installed Mugabe - less than 3 years later there was genocide - which got ignored. 20 years later the country was on its knees. Now poverty is rampant, and the country is stuffed. The main point is that foreign interference often (usually?) does more harm than good. I picked on the US, but I was brought up with the belief that the British Empire had brought civilisation and salvation to the savages around the globe. If they didn’t learn about Jesus they were doomed. My impression - during the 1970s - was that Western pressure to eliminate apartheid in Rhodesia and South Africa was more about domestic politics in the USA. Kennedy and Johnson were trying to encourage American blacks to lift themselves out of poverty and become tax-paying middle-class workers. They failed on all three counts. Rhodesia was a net agricultural exporter in 1970, but now they have to import food. South Africa has a prosperous, advanced economy - the most technologically advanced in Africa - but now it is a poor Third-World country with a high crime rate. Granted, some American blacks have moved up into the middle class, but there are still millions stuck in poverty ... on the dole .... in prison ..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 643 #1013 November 5, 2024 48 minutes ago, JerryBaumchen said: Hi Phil, Re: start fires aboard aircraft bound for North America Like the Lockerbie aircraft bombing, they want them to go off over the Atlantic Ocean. Due to some delays, after loading, the Lockerbie bomb went off over land, allowing the investigation to begin. Jerry Baumchen 30 years ago, I retired USAF Combat Controller told me that he and his buddies had been surveying airstrips in North Africa. They sent one CC home with the survey results. He was travelling in that 747 that exploded over Lockerbie, Scotland. A couple of Libyan military intelligence officers were eventually arrested and jailed, but released early. Lockbie was a military hit .... with 300 collateral casualties. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,363 #1014 November 5, 2024 27 minutes ago, riggerrob said: 30 years ago, I retired USAF Combat Controller told me that he and his buddies had been surveying airstrips in North Africa. They sent one CC home with the survey results. He was travelling in that 747 that exploded over Lockerbie, Scotland. A couple of Libyan military intelligence officers were eventually arrested and jailed, but released early. Lockbie was a military hit .... with 300 collateral casualties. Hi Rob, My personal take on the US military when it is personnel vs mission; the mission comes first. I would expect that any info they were carrying would have been with some other military personnel, also; on a different flight. Jerry Baumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,523 #1015 November 5, 2024 4 hours ago, Phil1111 said: Do you think that Tucker is angling for a job in a possible trump administration? One next to Kennedy? How about an insanity defense for a defamation case. Smartmatic is still pending. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 1,149 #1016 November 5, 2024 12 minutes ago, wolfriverjoe said: How about an insanity defense for a defamation case. Smartmatic is still pending. Tucker is capable of long term strategic thinking. Damn... I never thought of that one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 643 #1017 November 6, 2024 (edited) 20 hours ago, JerryBaumchen said: Hi Rob, My personal take on the US military when it is personnel vs mission; the mission comes first. I would expect that any info they were carrying would have been with some other military personnel, also; on a different flight. Jerry Baumchen Yes Gerry, Any information that time-sensitive would have been sent via three couriers ... on three different routes. Edited November 6, 2024 by riggerrob Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #1018 November 6, 2024 On 10/28/2024 at 10:31 AM, ryoder said: Someone needs to remind the cult that being US citizens, there is nothing preventing Puerto Ricans from moving to swing states where they immediately have the right to vote in presidential elections. They voted in larger numbers for Trump. What's your point? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,447 #1019 November 6, 2024 17 minutes ago, rushmc said: They voted in larger numbers for Trump. What's your point? Do you have any actual sources for saying that more Puerto Rica s voted for Trump? Wendy P. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,720 #1020 November 6, 2024 10 minutes ago, rushmc said: They voted in larger numbers for Trump. What's your point? The point is that we on the left didn't believe the cash for character carry trade would be successful amongst people who suffer the reality of racism on a daily basis. Too many Latino men, and black men for that matter, decided that voting for an avowed racist was an acceptable trade for a few more coins in the purse. We also didn't fully recognize that too many Latino men and white women would choose a slightly elevated feeling of superiority over the betterment of their fellows and sisters and daughters. Trumps team clearly saw our disconnect and used it to win. If nothing else, we now know with absolute clarity who and what we are as a people. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,027 #1021 November 6, 2024 23 minutes ago, JoeWeber said: If nothing else, we now know with absolute clarity who and what we are as a people. Self serving lying foul-mouthed bigots, apparently. “The government you elect is the government you deserve.” — Thomas Jefferson 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,447 #1022 November 6, 2024 2 hours ago, JoeWeber said: Too many Latino men, and black men for that matter, decided that voting for an avowed racist was an acceptable trade for a few more coins in the purse. That probably reflects their need for that money. Many, if not most, minorities get the short end of the financial stick. While money in the US isn’t a zero sum game, with our rather limited manufacturing sector now, it’s much closer than it was in the 1950’s. And wealth concentration in the financial elites is far more significant than it was in the 1950’s. Wendy P. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 210 #1023 November 6, 2024 Let me help you to understand what happened last night. 1. It’s the economy stupid. Folks have watched their paychecks shrink. They don’t respond well to that. 2. Wokeness. Every time I hear someone say there are more than 2 genders I chuckle a bit. DEI hurt you. Most sane individuals know you should hire the most qualified person for the job. 3. Policy. Sex change operations for inmates at no cost. $25 grand for everyone to buy a house. No fracking (or yes fracking) depending on location. 4. The border. Nuff said. Add all these together and you have a candidate who had no clear message. BTW I thought the Rs would take it on the chin over abortion. At the end of the day I feel bad for Kamala. She was in a no win situation. After the drooling fool exposed himself at the debate she had roughly 6 months to get her message across. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,447 #1024 November 6, 2024 8 minutes ago, airdvr said: Wokeness. Every time I hear someone say there are more than 2 genders I chuckle a bit. DEI hurt you. Most sane individuals know you should hire the most qualified person for the job. DEI means mor points of view; it includes the ability to identify with other customers as a qualification, and it means that “good fit with a bunch of yahoos who are OK with squeezing titties” isn’t a qualification. Of course it can be misapplied, just as “best fit” can be. How many jobs have you been denied solely because of your gender or color? I can name at least two (they told me). That’s true of LOTS of women and minorities. DEI brought us medical trials being run on both men and women; it brought us female and minority suffrage. At the time, it brought us suffrage for men who didn’t own land. Which of those do you disagree with? Just because you’re happy with how things are doesn’t make them perfect Wendy P. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #1025 November 6, 2024 14 minutes ago, airdvr said: It’s the economy stupid. Folks have watched their paychecks shrink. They don’t respond well to that. Wages have been outgrowing inflation for the last 18 months. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites