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[base698 14]

3 minutes ago, billvon said:

It originated from E. Jean Carroll, not a "system."

 

In 1995 with zero physical evidence other than he said she said.  There are more credible complaints against him, I certainly don't believe that one.

[base698 14]

8 minutes ago, jakee said:

Anyway, on another note I'm sure you'd agree that the entire US prison system should be redesigned to be far kinder to prisoners, with shorter sentences, more support and services available to them while inside and no prohibitions on potential employment when released - since most of them are just innocent victims of a dishonest system.

Yes, in particular poor and minorities that are ground into pulp by forcing them to take plea deals for asinine crimes like loitering behind their work place.  Any attorney not helping such people and forcing a plea deal out of laziness or legal inertia can work in the cobalt mines with the IV drug users that assault old ladies.

[jakee 1,489]

2 minutes ago, base698 said:

In 1995 with zero physical evidence other than he said she said.  There are more credible complaints against him, I certainly don't believe that one.

More like she said she said she said (and he said it's exactly what he usually does) vs he said. 

[jakee 1,489]

3 minutes ago, base698 said:

Yes, in particular poor and minorities that are ground into pulp by forcing them to take plea deals for asinine crimes like loitering behind their work place.  Any attorney not helping such people and forcing a plea deal out of laziness or legal inertia can work in the cobalt mines with the IV drug users that assault old ladies.

Cool, but you instead voted for the people who push for doing the absolute opposite. You voted for the person who said the police should first beat the shit out of those people before taking them to court to be ground down even further. 

While whining that it's really the guy who says all other suspects but him should be batoned in the face who is being harshly treated.

Edited November 8, 2024 by jakee

[billvon 2,990]

13 minutes ago, base698 said:

In 1995 with zero physical evidence other than he said she said.

She had the dress she was wearing when she was raped.  Trump was asked for a DNA sample to compare it to.  Not surprisingly, he refused.

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You voted for the person . . . .

Your making excuses for rape is really not a good look.  And no, whatever crazy-straw equivalency you were trying to make doesn't work.

This election has really showed who people are.

[gowlerk 2,190]

7 minutes ago, billvon said:

This election has really showed who people are.

I'm trying hard to understand but even discounting the man's behavior and record I still can't wrap my head around how people can just fall for the simplistic and bound to fail ideas presented as policy. What I do understand is the lack of any anything much beyond carrying on with the status quo presented by the Harris campaign. 

[brenthutch 444]

39 minutes ago, SkyDekker said:

The U.S. has more than 24 million acres under lease to oil and gas companies onshore — close to half are not producing. 

So adding more acres isn't the issue. Approving the drill permits is...which Biden did 50% more of then Trump.

• By a wide margin, according to BLM’s data set, no administration has done less than the Biden Administration to facilitate new American oil and gas production on federal lands.
• The domestic energy production numbers seen today are a reflection of leasing efforts by prior administrations of both parties

https://axpc.org/2024/06/12/a-breakdown-of-permits-vs-leases-and-how-they-impact-energy-development/

[JerryBaumchen 1,362]

24 minutes ago, gowlerk said:

I'm trying hard to understand but even discounting the man's behavior and record I still can't wrap my head around how people can just fall for the simplistic and bound to fail ideas presented as policy. What I do understand is the lack of any anything much beyond carrying on with the status quo presented by the Harris campaign. 

Hi Ken,

I'm with you.  The other day I was reading where NIKE stocks had tanked on fear of tariff increases.

It's all good until it is your ox that is getting gored.

Jerry Baumchen

PS)  People should just really look around & see how many consumer goods that they have that were made in China,

[SkyDekker 1,465]

27 minutes ago, brenthutch said:

 

• By a wide margin, according to BLM’s data set, no administration has done less than the Biden Administration to facilitate new American oil and gas production on federal lands.
• The domestic energy production numbers seen today are a reflection of leasing efforts by prior administrations of both parties

https://axpc.org/2024/06/12/a-breakdown-of-permits-vs-leases-and-how-they-impact-energy-development/

there are approved permits for 12 million acres of land that are currently NOT being drilled.

Making more land available doesn't improve production at this point.

[gowlerk 2,190]

1 minute ago, JerryBaumchen said:

PS)  People should just really look around & see how many consumer goods that they have that were made in China,

They can just look for the made in China label on their smart phone while they are looking it up.

[brenthutch 444]

22 minutes ago, SkyDekker said:

there are approved permits for 12 million acres of land that are currently NOT being drilled.

Making more land available doesn't improve production at this point.

• By a wide margin, according to BLM’s data set, no administration has done less than the Biden Administration to facilitate new American oil and gas production on federal lands.

what part of that did you not understand?

[SkyDekker 1,465]

1 minute ago, brenthutch said:

 

• By a wide margin, according to BLM’s data set, no administration has done less than the Biden Administration to facilitate new American oil and gas production on federal lands.

what part of that did you not understand?

ok. 

How long will it take for the oil companies to implement the 9,000 permits to start drilling on the 12 million acres that are available to them?

[jakee 1,489]

2 minutes ago, brenthutch said:

 

• By a wide margin, according to BLM’s data set, no administration has done less than the Biden Administration to facilitate new American oil and gas production on federal lands.

what part of that did you not understand?

Brent: [Says something].

Other person: That's not directly relevant because of factors a, b, c and z,

Brent: [Says exact same thing again] And checkmate!

[kallend 2,026]

1 hour ago, base698 said:

In 1995 with zero physical evidence other than he said she said.  There are more credible complaints against him, I certainly don't believe that one.

Ah yes, "he said":

 

[wmw999 2,444]

1 hour ago, base698 said:

In 1995 with zero physical evidence other than he said she said.  There are more credible complaints against him, I certainly don't believe that one.

As Bill said, she still has the dress. She also still has the friends she told at the time. 
As part of her testimony, she said that as part of the Silent Generation, she learned just to put with things; it took the Harvey Weinstein affair and the MeToo movement for her to realize she could file and maybe be taken seriously.
Then she waited until he wasn’t President any more, I assume. Probably a good move.

I don’t know if you’ve ever been told you can’t have a job because of your gender (I have). I don’t know if you’ve ever worked in an office where the only women to get promotions dated the (married) managers. I have. I’m told I can have an intimidating presence; that may be part of why I’m not part of the up to 20% of women who’ve had sex without it’s being what they wanted (it’s not always violent rape by a stranger). But we’re brought up to be mild, nice, cooperative, and afraid. It takes brave parents to do otherwise with their daughter, and I’m supremely grateful to mine that they didn’t make me afraid, and taught me to temper the rest. Of course society in general rewards those traits in women, just as it rewards aggressiveness in men.

Is it surprising then that sometimes what the man saw as “I had to talk her into it but she out out in the end” wasn’t really as consensual as that?

Wendy P. 

[base698 14]

1 hour ago, billvon said:

Your making excuses for rape is really not a good look.  And no, whatever crazy-straw equivalency you were trying to make doesn't work.

I don't believe it was rape and my motivation for voting for him did not even consider it.  I voted against the party that tried to get me fired when I was remote and think Vance and Elon have a shot of reform.

Your hall monitor bureaucracy party is done. 

 

[nigel99 471]

2 hours ago, base698 said:

People in power don't get attacked and get 34 legal charges for missing documents (which could easily have been one charge).  Just because someone has money doesn't mean they are powerful.

Trump is powerful today, after the election of 2024.  Given the alliances he picked up this election, it's clear he now formidable.  

Interesting how uninformed you are on Trumps crimes. The 34 felony charges aren’t related to missing document's.

[wmw999 2,444]

20 minutes ago, base698 said:

I don't believe it was rape and my motivation for voting for him did not even consider it.  I voted against the party that tried to get me fired when I was remote and think Vance and Elon have a shot of reform.

Your hall monitor bureaucracy party is done. 

 

Is non-consensual penetration wrong? Because she very clearly said it was non-consensual. I’m assuming you don’t think that as long as she doesn’t claw your eyes out it’s OK (it’s not)

Wendy P. 

[brenthutch 444]

1 hour ago, SkyDekker said:

ok. 

How long will it take for the oil companies to implement the 9,000 permits to start drilling on the 12 million acres that are available to them?

You mean the dry holes that were deemed unproductive?

[brenthutch 444]

14 minutes ago, wmw999 said:

Is non-consensual penetration wrong? Because she very clearly said it was non-consensual. I’m assuming you don’t think that as long as she doesn’t claw your eyes out it’s OK (it’s not)

Wendy P. 

“Don’t stop! Don’t stop! Don’t stop!”

Later…..”I said don’t and stop”

[SkyDekker 1,465]

7 minutes ago, brenthutch said:

You mean the dry holes that were deemed unproductive?

9,000 unused permits. If they found a dry hole, the permit would have been used.

You really are not a serious person and generally have no idea what you are talking about. 

[brenthutch 444]

Just now, SkyDekker said:

9,000 unused permits. If they found a dry hole, the permit would have been used.

You really are not a serious person and generally have no idea what you are talking about. 

Let’s be clear. Is it your contention that the record oil and gas production was a result of the Biden administration’s favorable policies supporting fossil fuel production?

[brenthutch 444]

5 minutes ago, SkyDekker said:

9,000 unused permits. If they found a dry hole, the permit would have been used.

You really are not a serious person and generally have no idea what you are talking about. 

There are other ways to determine if a given site is worthwhile.

Word/s of the day: Seismic Oil Exploration 

[SkyDekker 1,465]

Just now, brenthutch said:

“Don’t stop! Don’t stop! Don’t stop!”

Later…..”I said don’t and stop”

God I hope you don't have a wife or daughters.

If you do, I highly suspect they don't trust you enough to have an honest conversation with you regarding sexual assault.

1 in 6 women in the US have been subject to completed or attempted rape

1 in 4 girls in the US will be sexually abused before they turn 18

 

 

[SkyDekker 1,465]

6 minutes ago, brenthutch said:

Let’s be clear. Is it your contention that the record oil and gas production was a result of the Biden administration’s favorable policies supporting fossil fuel production?

If that is what you got out of this, then you need to learn to read.