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[sundevil777 102]

On 11/14/2024 at 1:42 PM, nigel99 said:

In case there’s any doubt I think DEI is a good thing. I wasn’t implying that it shouldn’t be in place. 

How could a person be against apple pie and baseball?

DEI, as it is in the real world, is awful and will rightly DIE along with other wokeness.  DEI was intended to replace the meritocracy, which is a horrible goal.

Democracy at work, truth to power, elections have consequences.

[billvon 2,990]

20 minutes ago, sundevil777 said:

DEI, as it is in the real world, is awful 

You don't even know what DEI is, and could not define it beyond "that which is bad."  Just like all the other conservatives who have been asked.

Here in the real world, DEI gave us the 13th amendment, and voting for women, and disabled parking, and gay marriage.  No matter what FOX News tells you.

[sundevil777 102]

1 minute ago, billvon said:

You don't even know what DEI is, and could not define it beyond "that which is bad."  Just like all the other conservatives who have been asked.

Here in the real world, DEI gave us the 13th amendment, and voting for women, and disabled parking, and gay marriage.  No matter what FOX News tells you.

DEI is toxic and divisive and a lot of other awful stuff. 

Y'all can't even admit that adult human female is a good definition of a woman.  Too afraid to offend your rabid progressive lunatic fringe base.  

Here in the real world, your disinformation campaign was ignored.  You LOST.

[billvon 2,990]

13 minutes ago, sundevil777 said:

DEI is toxic and divisive and a lot of other awful stuff.

Yes, I know what FOX News told you.  But words mean things.

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Y'all can't even admit that adult human female is a good definition of a woman.

What I find really funny is that, when asked, conservatives could not even define "woman."  

When y'all can figure that out yourselves, get back to us.

[sundevil777 102]

4 minutes ago, billvon said:

Yes, I know what FOX News told you.  But words mean things.

What I find really funny is that, when asked, conservatives could not even define "woman."  

When y'all can figure that out yourselves, get back to us.

I just did. 

A really popular movie was made by conservatives with the title, "What is a Woman".

...get back to us.

[nigel99 471]

14 minutes ago, sundevil777 said:

How could a person be against apple pie and baseball?

DEI, as it is in the real world, is awful and will rightly DIE along with other wokeness.  DEI was intended to replace the meritocracy, which is a horrible goal.

Democracy at work, truth to power, elections have consequences.

At the heart of diversity is exposure to alternative viewpoints and life experiences. 

Bringing it closer to home, some of the loudest complaints about SC is that it’s a left wing echo chamber, that the mods are biased against right wing posters and that regular posters make right wing people feel unwelcome. Sounds a lot like DEI to me :)

Speakers corner has more value when we have diversity of views, the mods are equitable and we are inclusive. 

[billvon 2,990]

2 hours ago, sundevil777 said:

I just did. 

Well then you are doing better than most conservatives.

If a woman is XY, what gender is she?  How about someone who is a 3 on the Prader scale?  What gender are they?

[winsor 236]

11 hours ago, sundevil777 said:

How could a person be against apple pie and baseball?

DEI, as it is in the real world, is awful and will rightly DIE along with other wokeness.  DEI was intended to replace the meritocracy, which is a horrible goal.

Democracy at work, truth to power, elections have consequences.

Mediocracy.

[Phil1111 1,149]

11 hours ago, sundevil777 said:

I just did. 

A really popular movie was made by conservatives with the title, "What is a Woman".

...get back to us.

"Lawfare" 'the hunted are about to become the hunters' This video on Youtube says everything you need to know about the upcoming trump government. Pussy grabbing becomes lawful. Sexual assault is no longer prosecuted. trump starts to "protect women". trump, Steve Bannon, Matt Gaetz, etc. delivering vengeance as promised.

[kallend 2,026]

13 hours ago, nigel99 said:

https://www.cnn.com/2024/10/23/politics/mcconnell-trump-gop-new-book/index.html?cid=ios_app

Looks like Mitch is the latest RINO

Too late to be of any value.

[wmw999 2,442]

I believe the expression “chickenshit motherfucker” was invented for revelations like that

Wendy P. 

[richravizza 28]

On 11/9/2024 at 9:49 AM, base698 said:

Republican candidate gets a highest percentage of women, black, and hispanic vote in decades.

MISOGYNISTIC!

 Oh I wish I had more "Likes" for you, the man with a green hat and the devil tha showed up. Booya!

 Be careful !! don't ever use the word Prejudice or  Clueless when describing Bill or his comrades ideas.You'll be convicted, your 1A will be abridged and you'll receive an  "Abusive Behavior" scarlet letter by your name.It's for life.. LOL .

A rules for thee, thang.

 Thanks for highlighting Karen's incessant "They let you" post. Years ago I, we tried to explain to him that, (R) didn't vote for Trump because of his morales, we voted in spite of them.

 But like that damn video,aroun and around we go. I'm lead to assume he's a Professor. He's ignortat ignoring me.So please explain to him what groopy's are a thang and how some women will simply...Lift a leg. Do Not to mention JFK, Even Tiger the golfer have an entourage?

Some would call it temptation, a concept relegated to a cave.lol 

Enjoy the insight,LOL

His last remarks are what we'll have to deal with in the near future.

Anywho..Enjoy 

The rule of holes.. When you find yourself in one,Stop digging!

[normiss 798]

It still amazes me the number of people who are entirely fucking clueless as to what the 1A actually means.

Your First doesn't apply here. Dummies.

[Phil1111 1,149]

On 11/9/2024 at 11:49 AM, base698 said:

Republican candidate gets a highest percentage of women, black, and hispanic vote in decades.

MISOGYNISTIC!

 

13 hours ago, richravizza said:

 Oh I wish I had more "Likes" for you, the man with a green hat and the devil tha showed up. Booya!

Well whats holding you back like each other up!

[base698 14]

1 hour ago, normiss said:

It still amazes me the number of people who are entirely fucking clueless as to what the 1A actually means.

Your First doesn't apply here. Dummies.

By here do you mean DZ.com?  Did you read or do you remember On Liberty?

[normiss 798]

The First Amendment's constitutional right of free speech, which is applicable to state and local governments under the incorporation doctrine, prevents only government restrictions on speech, not restrictions imposed by private individuals or businesses unless they are acting on behalf of the government. The right of free speech can, however, be lawfully restricted by time, place and manner in limited circumstances. Some laws may restrict the ability of private businesses and individuals from restricting the speech of others, such as employment laws that restrict employers' ability to prevent employees from disclosing their salary to coworkers or attempting to organize a labor union.

 

There's no government entity involved with a foreign owned website or social media websites in general. 

Did you read or do you remember the Terms of Service, AKA the Forum Rules and Policies?

[gowlerk 2,190]

31 minutes ago, base698 said:

By here do you mean DZ.com?  Did you read or do you remember On Liberty?

Free speech generally means freedom from prosecution. Persecution? Well that's a completely different matter. There are things you or I could say that would lead to shunning in society. And rightfully so.

[billvon 2,990]

15 hours ago, richravizza said:

 Be careful !! don't ever use the word Prejudice or  Clueless when describing Bill or his comrades ideas.You'll be convicted, your 1A will be abridged and you'll receive an  "Abusive Behavior" scarlet letter by your name.It's for life..

So can I post some signs in your yard?  I especially like this one, and I found a 4 foot by 8 foot version of it!

Let me know when I can stop by.  (Unless you want to abridge my First Amendment rights of course)

[Phil1111 1,149]

49 minutes ago, billvon said:

Its a sad state of affairs when each of those concepts is under attack and in doubt.

[SkyDekker 1,465]

1 hour ago, base698 said:

By here do you mean DZ.com?  Did you read or do you remember On Liberty?

Doesn't apply anywhere government isn't involved.

Always amazes me how clueless Americans tend to be about what they think are their rights.

What do you call a smart person in America?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

A tourist.

Edited November 22, 2024 by SkyDekker

[base698 14]

4 minutes ago, SkyDekker said:

Doesn't apply anywhere government isn't involved.

Always amazes me how clueless Americans tend to be about what they think are their rights.

What do you call a smart person in America?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

A tourist.

I was asking if you had read or were familiar with enlightenment philosophers and their reasoning about what Freedom of Speech is and should be.  You seem very not smart for someone casting aspersions about intelligence.

 

> Society can and does execute its own mandates: and if it issues wrong mandates instead of right, or any mandates at all in things with which it ought not to meddle, it practises a social tyranny more formidable than many kinds of political oppression, since, though not usually upheld by such extreme penalties, it leaves fewer means of escape, penetrating much more deeply into the details of life, and enslaving the soul itself. Protection, therefore, against the tyranny of the magistrate is not enough: there needs protection also against the tyranny of the prevailing opinion and feeling; against the tendency of society to impose, by other means than civil penalties, its own ideas and practices as rules of conduct on those who dissent from them; to fetter the development, and, if possible, prevent the formation, of any individuality not in harmony with its ways, and compel all characters to fashion themselves upon the model of its own. There is a limit to the legitimate interference of collective opinion with individual independence: and to find that limit, and maintain it against encroachment, is as indispensable to a good condition of human affairs, as protection against political despotism.

[gowlerk 2,190]

1 minute ago, base698 said:

I was asking if you had read or were familiar with enlightenment philosophers and their reasoning about what Freedom of Speech is and should be. 

We have long moved past the Enlightenment Era. It's Postmodernism now. 

[SkyDekker 1,465]

6 minutes ago, base698 said:

I was asking if you had read or were familiar with enlightenment philosophers and their reasoning about what Freedom of Speech is and should be.  You seem very not smart for someone casting aspersions about intelligence.

 

> Society can and does execute its own mandates: and if it issues wrong mandates instead of right, or any mandates at all in things with which it ought not to meddle, it practises a social tyranny more formidable than many kinds of political oppression, since, though not usually upheld by such extreme penalties, it leaves fewer means of escape, penetrating much more deeply into the details of life, and enslaving the soul itself. Protection, therefore, against the tyranny of the magistrate is not enough: there needs protection also against the tyranny of the prevailing opinion and feeling; against the tendency of society to impose, by other means than civil penalties, its own ideas and practices as rules of conduct on those who dissent from them; to fetter the development, and, if possible, prevent the formation, of any individuality not in harmony with its ways, and compel all characters to fashion themselves upon the model of its own. There is a limit to the legitimate interference of collective opinion with individual independence: and to find that limit, and maintain it against encroachment, is as indispensable to a good condition of human affairs, as protection against political despotism.

And you think a ban on making jokes about pedophilia on dz.com is an example of this?

Of course there is only one candidate who has specifically been talking about canceling broadcasting licenses for companies that don't say what he wants.... and you voted for that candidate, while apparently complaining about free speech constraints on dz.com. All without seeing the irony.

[base698 14]

6 minutes ago, SkyDekker said:

And you think a ban on making jokes about pedophilia on dz.com is an example of this?

Of course there is only one candidate who has specifically been talking about canceling broadcasting licenses for companies that don't say what he wants.... and you voted for that candidate, while apparently complaining about free speech constraints on dz.com. All without seeing the irony.

I had not complained.  I asked and you responded with standard NPC about government's definition of free speech.

[jakee 1,489]

31 minutes ago, base698 said:

I was asking if you had read or were familiar with enlightenment philosophers and their reasoning about what Freedom of Speech is and should be.  You seem very not smart for someone casting aspersions about intelligence.

If you're so smart, can you explain how enlightenment philosophy relates to whether First Amendment protections actually apply to whether or not you can be banned on Dz.com?

Edited November 22, 2024 by jakee