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[SkyDekker 1,465]

18 minutes ago, base698 said:

I had not complained.  I asked and you responded with standard NPC about government's definition of free speech.

Not government, your constitution.

Are you suggesting teh US constitution should be abandoned for the thoughts of philosophers and enlightened thinkers. Cause most with a brain seem to understand your gun experiment is working so well. Or now we are back to strictly just being concerned about the constitution?

If your point is that propaganda is bad, yes I agree. If you think you were suffering under liberal propaganda, you are crazy.

[kallend 2,026]

1 hour ago, SkyDekker said:

Doesn't apply anywhere government isn't involved.

Always amazes me how clueless Americans tend to be about what they think are their rights.

 

It always amazes me how so many Americans believe they are the free-est folks on Earth because they have the Bill of Rights, which doesn't even accord a right to privacy according to Alito et al.

Maybe they should look at the rights possessed by citizens of most European countries.

About the only outlier here is the 2nd Amendment, something that results in the early deaths of tens of thousands of Americans annually.

[richravizza 28]

On 11/8/2024 at 3:05 PM, brenthutch said:

“Do not contain oil and/or gas in sufficient quantities to make their extraction economically feasible”

Fixed it for you 

If only “green energy” boondoggles were held to the same standard.

It's amazing the sense of deja, with you and you know who, about you know what, Again.lol

Just check the price of electricity in CA over the the decade. Now, that's the joke, it $elf. 

  I don't know if you have a not so guilty pleasure? lol,I do.Stay to the end  and just take the Win.

I feel sorry for the white guys for Kamala; besides the how and when they were supposed to pronounce her name. Their like minded romantic interests..., May Be  4B... lol. 

Too bad we can't witness that flash, the glaring green glimmer, take the Win.

If the Dems really wanted to "Heal the Country" why didn't they just pardon the Jan 6ers? 

[richravizza 28]

On 11/9/2024 at 6:40 AM, nigel99 said:

You’re beating a dead horse. For some reason this election result has brought out even stronger racist and misogynistic views than 2016. 

A MAGA person shared this ‘joke’ on FB today “I’m not racist my girlfriend has two black eyes” 

I see Your not a fan of Dark humor. Too bad,I think it's hilarious. Your funny too. Do you wake up in the morning looking around waiting to be offended..poor thing. You might not realize it yet, but your type, is what we are laughing at, Sir. Not the violence. The violence and misogyny is your In. Because, no one in their "Right" mind would approve of such behavior.Your "tell".Your reaction and the inference that MAGA approves,ie. we like our women barefoot. 

Your the butt of the joke,you got offended.. exactly what You are supposed to thinKKK.

How about this one.

We've been dismissing Project 2024  for a long time now,all the way up to the elections. Now that it's over? It is, and Was our intentions the whole time. LOL

Edited November 22, 2024 by richravizza

[richravizza 28]

6 hours ago, gowlerk said:

We have long moved past the Enlightenment Era. It's Postmodernism now. 

Hi Ken, if I may.

The abandonment of EE principles, opposed to their incorporation to  Postmodernism has lead us to the perils of RPM,now.  

[richravizza 28]

On 11/22/2024 at 6:40 AM, Phil1111 said:

 

Well whats holding you back like each other up!

 I'm all out! But....I'll be Back! lol

Phill, a heads up!

The wailing and gnashing of the insufferable becomes deafening over the years.A  sorta, NPC white noise that's always maxed in background volume. More irritating than my horrible case of Tinnitus.A Constant irritation.

A true, clean single note I've come relish.

To echo 0bamas sentiments,about Joe "We'll try to not uck it up"

 Just Perhaps, something we can agree on? 

Edited November 23, 2024 by richravizza

[richravizza 28]

On 11/12/2024 at 3:35 PM, tkhayes said:

trust in the media has little to do with facts, truth, or reality.  No one cares about rape?  Well no one cares about what you think about the media.....

 

Trust in, the type consumed is a direct correlation to how you vote, not to mention your/our entire worldview.

[richravizza 28]

23 hours ago, SkyDekker said:

Not government, your constitution.

Are you suggesting teh US constitution should be abandoned for the thoughts of philosophers and enlightened thinkers. Cause most with a brain seem to understand your gun experiment is working so well. Or now we are back to strictly just being concerned about the constitution?

If your point is that propaganda is bad, yes I agree. If you think you were suffering under liberal propaganda, you are crazy.

Can we take this to the 2A topic? 

[JoeWeber 2,720]

On 11/22/2024 at 7:39 AM, base698 said:

I was asking if you had read or were familiar with enlightenment philosophers and their reasoning about what Freedom of Speech is and should be.  You seem very not smart for someone casting aspersions about intelligence.

 

> Society can and does execute its own mandates: and if it issues wrong mandates instead of right, or any mandates at all in things with which it ought not to meddle, it practises a social tyranny more formidable than many kinds of political oppression, since, though not usually upheld by such extreme penalties, it leaves fewer means of escape, penetrating much more deeply into the details of life, and enslaving the soul itself. Protection, therefore, against the tyranny of the magistrate is not enough: there needs protection also against the tyranny of the prevailing opinion and feeling; against the tendency of society to impose, by other means than civil penalties, its own ideas and practices as rules of conduct on those who dissent from them; to fetter the development, and, if possible, prevent the formation, of any individuality not in harmony with its ways, and compel all characters to fashion themselves upon the model of its own. There is a limit to the legitimate interference of collective opinion with individual independence: and to find that limit, and maintain it against encroachment, is as indispensable to a good condition of human affairs, as protection against political despotism.

Well written, Sir. In fairness quotation marks would have been a nice touch.

[richravizza 28]

On 11/22/2024 at 8:24 AM, billvon said:

So can I post some signs in your yard?  I especially like this one, and I found a 4 foot by 8 foot version of it!

Let me know when I can stop by.  (Unless you want to abridge my First Amendment rights of course)

If you have the the courage and the balls to step foot in my yard you'll get a rude  awakening. I'd explain to you that you're a self aggrandizing, virtue signaling, walking  liberal hypocrisy cluess to the fact  you hold  propaganda. I'd suggest a  correction to your sign.

In This House We Believe in Tools  

We identify as a Hammer, a Sickle  and Two 1/2 " wrenches   

We believe!

Double the mask, double the vac.

Double the lock down the fun. 

This message has been approved by GGHA,the green grocers handlers association."

So tolerant so inclusive so much love.

 

 

[billvon 2,990]

4 minutes ago, richravizza said:

If you have the the courage and the balls to step foot in my yard you'll get a rude  awakening.

Great.  So you admit you do not support free speech either, and want to censor my opinions.

[richravizza 28]

40 minutes ago, billvon said:

Great.  So you admit you do not support free speech either, and want to censor my opinions.

 Of course not Bill.

 We have divergent thought processes. Even though I disagree with you on nearly everything.I respect our divergence and I understand your reasoning to ignore the 0bama video. Eating a shit sandwich is disgusting,but his insinuations were worse.

 Like the creators of Libs of tick tock videos, I want you to be honest. An overlooked attribute to the First, the ability to listen and dispel bad ideas.

What's the saying ?"good to have friends close,better to have your enemies closer"

Edited November 24, 2024 by richravizza

[billvon 2,990]

1 hour ago, richravizza said:

 Of course not Bill.

Of course you are.  You are prohibiting my 1A rights on your lawn, thus censoring me.  You are afraid of my ideas and cannot respond intelligently to them; thus the threats of violence (i.e. "you'd get a rude awakening.")

Quote

An overlooked attribute to the First, the ability to listen and dispel bad ideas.

Which, apparently, you cannot stomach on your yard.

[kallend 2,026]

It must be a struggle to be taken seriously when your name rhymes with pizza.  Just think of the potential for Limericks.

[richravizza 28]

11 hours ago, billvon said:

Of course you are.  You are prohibiting my 1A rights on your lawn, thus censoring me.  You are afraid of my ideas and cannot respond intelligently to them; thus the threats of violence (i.e. "you'd get a rude awakening.")

Which, apparently, you cannot stomach on your yard.

 I can appreciate games but Please don't beat around the bush,I think I get your point.

The Queens rules apply,and you're the queen.

"A rude awokening" is not a threat,it's a promise. Neither infers Violence.

 Again, I think I get your drift. My Words are violence and silence is violence.

"Words hurt, jokes hurt, we hurt ya, half the time you don't even know what hurts you but trust me, we heard you"

 

Edited November 25, 2024 by richravizza

[richravizza 28]

10 hours ago, kallend said:

It must be a struggle to be taken seriously when your name rhymes with pizza.  Just think of the potential for Limericks.

Oh you're a riot,I haven't heard that one since grade school. Thanks for showing me your humor and creativity but mostly in the decision to let me back into your life. We should invison Our relationship like a beautiful flower just waiting to bud or like fine wine, it'll take some time.

I'm good with a humors limerick, also in  being equally laughable, so let me have it.

 This one's kinda raunchy and low,I was apprehensive, saving it for the appropriate time like the next time Joe insults. Please don't take offence this not aimed at you. 

The set up is when someone agrees with me and detractors tell us to "get a room." the reply goes like this;

You can always join us, before we get there just know.. only one of us will need to rollover.lol

Peace.... of pizza pie,please.

Edited November 25, 2024 by richravizza
xoxo

[billvon 2,990]

8 hours ago, richravizza said:

I think I get your point.

Great!  So we agree that "free speech" does not include the right for me to say whatever I want on your lawn, and does not include the right to say whatever you want on Willem's forum.

[richravizza 28]

On 11/22/2024 at 7:44 AM, base698 said:

By here do you mean DZ.com?  Did you read or do you remember On Liberty?

Thank you!  A perspective sorely needed. Unfortunately you've been made.lol You've been identified in a true identitarian fashion.

 So when JoeW gives you a backhanded compliment like,"Well written, Sir. In fairness quotation marks would have been a nice touch." know that's the best it gets.You should say thank you....Sir.

I started a thread ,I'd appreciate your input.  

 

[richravizza 28]

On 11/25/2024 at 8:41 AM, billvon said:

Great!  So we agree that "free speech" does not include the right for me to say whatever I want on your lawn, and does not include the right to say whatever you want on Willem's forum.

Kallend's suggestion, Context with a Hiberno slant..

Winsor say'd Joe clueless; I did the same,our abuses fully, duly noted,I think it'ws lame.

Edited November 27, 2024 by richravizza

[SkyDekker 1,465]

On 11/26/2024 at 8:23 PM, richravizza said:

So when JoeW gives you a backhanded compliment like,"Well written, Sir. In fairness quotation marks would have been a nice touch." know that's the best it gets.You should say thank you....Sir.

LMAO

I enjoy how you clearly have no clue why JoeW said that.

[brenthutch 444]

On 11/8/2024 at 6:48 PM, billvon said:

A rule that should be obvious in Speaker's Corner, but perhaps it isn't  - 

No jokes about rape, even if they support your guy, and even if you think they are funny.

Sad that I have to explain this, but here we are.

It was a fifty year old Benny Hill joke but thanks for demonstrating one more that Lefties have no sense of humor.

[wmw999 2,444]

2 hours ago, brenthutch said:

It was a fifty year old Benny Hill joke but thanks for demonstrating one more that Lefties have no sense of humor.

Fifty years ago it didn’t matter if a joke was funny to women, minorities, etc. consider Polack jokes (just an example).

Now they’re not so funny. And if the site owner says that kind of thing isn’t allowed, isn’t it his site?

Wendy P. 

[base698 14]

27 minutes ago, wmw999 said:

Fifty years ago it didn’t matter if a joke was funny to women, minorities, etc. consider Polack jokes (just an example).

Now they’re not so funny. And if the site owner says that kind of thing isn’t allowed, isn’t it his site?

Wendy P. 

There was a time not long ago when the dumbest people in the world were polacks. Do you see any dumb polacks around today? What happened? "Awareness?" Do you think we all just learned "poles are just like us?" You think it was... education? Pole empowerment? Tolerance? The question is not how did we learn to get over that prejudice, but rather what purpose did it serve in the first place, why was it the preferred expression of hate of that time?

[tkhayes 348]

On 11/24/2024 at 2:31 PM, billvon said:

Great.  So you admit you do not support free speech either, and want to censor my opinions.

Wow you found one video of a guy taking down a sign and summarily ignore the 1200 indictments of Jan 6th rioters, and try to compare them as apples to apples.

 

congrats on being a cult member, weak frail arguments when your guy is a convicted felon..... and veiled threats of violence because you fear people who speak differently from you and thus have to suggest violence when they 'step into your yard'

pathetic.  Trump and his minions taught you well. 

[wmw999 2,444]

26 minutes ago, base698 said:

There was a time not long ago when the dumbest people in the world were polacks. Do you see any dumb polacks around today? What happened? "Awareness?" Do you think we all just learned "poles are just like us?" You think it was... education? Pole empowerment? Tolerance? The question is not how did we learn to get over that prejudice, but rather what purpose did it serve in the first place, why was it the preferred expression of hate of that time?

50 years ago you didn't have to respect women (other than in the “sacred womanhood to be protected and shielded like a child” way), or blacks, or Hispanics, or, yes, polacks. Awareness helps — they didn’t get smarter, neither did women or anyone else. Just recognized as actually equal (at least where you can be shamed for that kind of prejudice), rather than ignored as irrelevant to the power structure.

Maybe even considered as individuals, rather than as placeholders for “everyone else like that.”

Wendy P.