jakee 1,528 #1301 February 27 1 hour ago, dogyks said: Thus, if Captain Chaos can roil the waters such that Putin appears to have a 'win,' a Kewpie doll to account for all that has been squandered, that might be the least awful outcome for the time being. And is there any indication that this will be the case? No. So why are we speculating about ‘if’ he will do that? We might as well be talking about how great it would be if he could literally fart sunshine and piss rainbows. As it stands right now Putin is in line to get an actual, genuine massive win. All the territory he possesses. All the natural resource wealth he’s stolen. Access to global markets restored so that he can profit from it. No reparations for his wholesale destruction and heinous war crimes. No security guarantee to stop him reinvading in 4 years time when he’s rebuilt his army. According to Trump, that’s the deal that’s on the table. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
olofscience 485 #1302 February 27 5 hours ago, dogyks said: Thus, if Captain Chaos can roil the waters such that Putin appears to have a 'win,' a Kewpie doll to account for all that has been squandered, that might be the least awful outcome for the time being. I'd rather die free than live under Putin's boot. Looks like your capitulation is complete. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,028 #1303 February 27 Trump caught on a live mic telling FOX News reporter Laurence Jones how to cover him: TRUMP: "Lawrence. Look at Lawrence. This guy’s making a fortune. He never had it so good. He never had it so good." (Trump moves over to Lawrence.) TRUMP: "Lawrence, say we did a great job, please. Okay? Say it was unbelievable." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dogyks 6 #1304 March 1 (edited) There's a lot being done by this administration that is necessary if we are not to crash and burn, and a lot of damage is being undone. Having said that, it is unfortunate that Trump is a truly repellent piece of shit There may be method to the madness regarding the treatment of Ukraine and Zelinskyy - getting European neighbors to replace US aid seems to be working - but the approach taken to do so is completely nauseating. Placing blame on Ukraine for Russia's aggression has all the charm of blaming a victim of gang rape for being too attractive. Insisting that Ukraine is resisting "peace" is like saying said rape victim should have "compromised;" since the offer was made to only include full-patch club members and no prospects or hangers on she was just playing hard to get. It may be by the "Art of the Deal" playbook, but it's disgusting nonetheless. Edited March 1 by dogyks Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,528 #1305 March 1 20 minutes ago, dogyks said: There's a lot being done by this administration that is necessary It isn't. 20 minutes ago, dogyks said: There may be method to the madness regarding the treatment of Ukraine and Zelinskyy There isn't. 20 minutes ago, dogyks said: getting European neighbors to replace US aid seems to be working 1) It can't. Europe is already giving a lot of aid, but it is not capable of replacing US arms supply. Ukraine needs weapons from both sides of the atlantic. 2) That's not the goal. As things currently stand, doing business with Russia is the goal. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,475 #1306 March 1 41 minutes ago, dogyks said: There's a lot being done by this administration that is necessary if we are not to crash and burn, and a lot of damage is being undone. Having said that, it is unfortunate that Trump is a truly repellent piece of shit There may be method to the madness regarding the treatment of Ukraine and Zelinskyy - getting European neighbors to replace US aid seems to be working - but the approach taken to do so is completely nauseating. Placing blame on Ukraine for Russia's aggression has all the charm of blaming a victim of gang rape for being too attractive. Insisting that Ukraine is resisting "peace" is like saying said rape victim should have "compromised;" since the offer was made to only include full-patch club members and no prospects or hangers on she was just playing hard to get. It may be by the "Art of the Deal" playbook, but it's disgusting nonetheless. But he's your guy anyway. Because there is nothing he could do that would cause you to re-think your support of him, and risk potentially having been wrong. I'm sorry, but that's bullshit. I'm assuming that means that your humanity has a price, and so does everyone else's. Wendy P. 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dogyks 6 #1307 March 1 3 minutes ago, wmw999 said: But he's your guy anyway. Because there is nothing he could do that would cause you to re-think your support of him, and risk potentially having been wrong. I'm sorry, but that's bullshit. I'm assuming that means that your humanity has a price, and so does everyone else's. Wendy P. Careful with the projection. I approve of treating government with the same fiscal responsibility as necessary for a successful business (yeah, I know the dumb sonofabitch has a tendency to bankruptcy). I approve of ripping any woke policies out by the roots. Funding DEI is not an option. I approve of picking an official language. My forebears would have done better with French or German, but we picked up some English along the way. I approve of having a military focused on its primary mission, with no consideration of other agenda. I approve of limiting who can immigrate, and have no problem with flouting the rules being an unacceptable option. Many who got to Ellis Island were sent back, and I've lived many places where being there without authorization was a Really Bad Idea. I approve of Right Back Atcha trade legislation, where our tariffs duplicate those of our trading partners. "Gender Affirming Care" for children is child abuse and should be charged as a felony. If you want surgery to confirm your identity as a penguin once you reach majority - and you pay for it - knock yourself out. Any group should be careful when asking for "Special Treatment," given how that worked out previously. Harris would have done nothing I consider useful, so Trump was operationally preferable. He is, unfortunately, entirely revolting, and by no means "my guy." 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,384 #1308 March 1 1 hour ago, dogyks said: Careful with the projection. I approve of treating government with the same fiscal responsibility as necessary for a successful business (yeah, I know the dumb sonofabitch has a tendency to bankruptcy). I approve of ripping any woke policies out by the roots. Funding DEI is not an option. I approve of picking an official language. My forebears would have done better with French or German, but we picked up some English along the way. I approve of having a military focused on its primary mission, with no consideration of other agenda. I approve of limiting who can immigrate, and have no problem with flouting the rules being an unacceptable option. Many who got to Ellis Island were sent back, and I've lived many places where being there without authorization was a Really Bad Idea. I approve of Right Back Atcha trade legislation, where our tariffs duplicate those of our trading partners. "Gender Affirming Care" for children is child abuse and should be charged as a felony. If you want surgery to confirm your identity as a penguin once you reach majority - and you pay for it - knock yourself out. Any group should be careful when asking for "Special Treatment," given how that worked out previously. Harris would have done nothing I consider useful, so Trump was operationally preferable. He is, unfortunately, entirely revolting, and by no means "my guy." Hi dogyks, Re: Any group should be careful when asking for "Special Treatment," given how that worked out previously. I would guess that you simply do not care for anyone else; yes/no? How about this: Johnson himself might hear from constituents about Medicaid, given his deeply red state holds the nation’s second-highest percentage of residents enrolled in the program. GOP tax cut plans may depend on savings from Medicaid. What is it and who relies on it? • Oregon Capital Chronicle I'm thinking a lot of GOP-types are going to be/are hearing from their constituents about the cuts. IMO it is just beginning. Once again: It is all well & good until it is your ox that is getting gored. Jerry Baumchen PS) I was employed by the federal gov't for 30 yrs; I believe that there are many places to improve. You do not cut a good steak with a machete. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dogyks 6 #1309 March 1 2 hours ago, JerryBaumchen said: Hi dogyks, Re: Any group should be careful when asking for "Special Treatment," given how that worked out previously. I would guess that you simply do not care for anyone else; yes/no? How about this: Johnson himself might hear from constituents about Medicaid, given his deeply red state holds the nation’s second-highest percentage of residents enrolled in the program. GOP tax cut plans may depend on savings from Medicaid. What is it and who relies on it? • Oregon Capital Chronicle I'm thinking a lot of GOP-types are going to be/are hearing from their constituents about the cuts. IMO it is just beginning. Once again: It is all well & good until it is your ox that is getting gored. Jerry Baumchen PS) I was employed by the federal gov't for 30 yrs; I believe that there are many places to improve. You do not cut a good steak with a machete. You appear to think a significant number of my immediate family and friends aren't and weren't civil servants. I didn't know it was that obvious. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,475 #1310 March 2 I'm curious -- which is it you're against -- diversity, equity, or inclusion? Because I knew a manager at the NASA contractor I worked at who would hire Texas Aggies over everyone else if given the option. Yeah, he'd had good luck with them, but good luck with getting any breadth of ideas on solving a problem. Other managers had equal or better work quality with far more diverse workers (just of university, never mind gender and ethnicity). Just because it works in a narrow context doesn't make it the right answer. As far as a national language -- enact it. It would need to be a law, not just a decree. Or is it OK for the president simply to decree things now that it's Trump? As far as the rest? Well, while I'm with you on the need to cut government, I agree with Jerry that a chainsaw isn't exactly the way to go. Just as amputating a leg isn't the best way to lose weight. The military's job isn't the same as it was 80 years ago in WW2, because war isn't the same as it was in WW2. Hand-to-hand combat is a much smaller piece of the pie, and with the increased amount of weight that soldiers now wear with body armor included (average Marine carried 60-120 lbs in Afghanistan and Iraq, over the 50-lb maximum recommended by the Army in 2001), it would seem that individual evaluation would be necessary anyway, not just "male good, female bad." But that's just me; I probably should smile more, huh. I'm not going to go point-by-point, because most of the issues are more nuanced than a one-sentence approach will provide. But it's always more fun simply to give the "easy, obvious" answer to complicated problems, forgetting that it's the very complicated nature that makes them problems. Wendy P. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,760 #1311 March 2 10 hours ago, dogyks said: Careful with the projection. I approve of treating government with the same fiscal responsibility as necessary for a successful business (yeah, I know the dumb sonofabitch has a tendency to bankruptcy). I approve of ripping any woke policies out by the roots. Funding DEI is not an option. I approve of picking an official language. My forebears would have done better with French or German, but we picked up some English along the way. I approve of having a military focused on its primary mission, with no consideration of other agenda. I approve of limiting who can immigrate, and have no problem with flouting the rules being an unacceptable option. Many who got to Ellis Island were sent back, and I've lived many places where being there without authorization was a Really Bad Idea. I approve of Right Back Atcha trade legislation, where our tariffs duplicate those of our trading partners. "Gender Affirming Care" for children is child abuse and should be charged as a felony. If you want surgery to confirm your identity as a penguin once you reach majority - and you pay for it - knock yourself out. Any group should be careful when asking for "Special Treatment," given how that worked out previously. Harris would have done nothing I consider useful, so Trump was operationally preferable. He is, unfortunately, entirely revolting, and by no means "my guy." You are an interesting and curious new addition to the fold, Mr. skygod. Stepping back for a moment, to my eye you aren't much different from what I'd expect from a Russian Bot or apologist. "Oh, yes, Trump is a dildo but I while hate dildo's I totally enjoy what they do and don't worry it's all just fun!" Probably, if you are real, you know that I have had my disagreements with the principals at your DZ. Are you here as their champion? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,528 #1312 March 2 13 hours ago, dogyks said: Careful with the projection. I approve of treating government with the same fiscal responsibility as necessary for a successful business (yeah, I know the dumb sonofabitch has a tendency to bankruptcy). ... Harris would have done nothing I consider useful, so Trump was operationally preferable. He is, unfortunately, entirely revolting, and by no means "my guy." Did you ever think through the implication of the fact that the only President who's ever been willing to do the things you want is a dumb, revolting sonofabitch? Call me crazy but I can't help thinking that might say something about the merits of the policies. Nah, you're right - it's probably just a coincidence. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dogyks 6 #1313 March 2 (edited) I think I had you killfiled on DZ, but you haven't shown the level of abuse I seem to recall. We'll see. My point is that, while Trump himself is loathsome, what his people are doing is an improvement over anything Harris or Biden had to offer. His treatment of Zelinskyy was despicable. Having spent time in the Soviet Union I can assure you that I do not support Russia - particularly as run by a Komitat alumnus. Trump can fuck up a wet dream, and I fully expect him to do so (being a dickhead about Ukraine has him off to a good start) but the playbook he's following for the first 100 days is, by and large, remarkable. The "Gulf of America" bit is retarded, and I think abortion should be free, legal and immediately available in the first trimester. Edited March 2 by dogyks Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIGUN 1,338 #1314 March 2 (edited) 17 hours ago, dogyks said: I approve of treating government with the same fiscal responsibility as necessary for a successful business (yeah, I know the dumb sonofabitch has a tendency to bankruptcy). Your forebears created the House of Representatives for a reason. 17 hours ago, dogyks said: I approve of ripping any woke policies out by the roots. Funding DEI is not an option. So, even Don Lemon stated that DEI became a house of worship and if you didn't sing with the choir; you were out of the church. IMO; it was an enhanced form of race relations. 17 hours ago, dogyks said: I approve of picking an official language. My forebears would have done better with French or German, but we picked up some English along the way. Congress, not EO. 17 hours ago, dogyks said: I approve of having a military focused on its primary mission, with no consideration of other agenda. Agreed. 17 hours ago, dogyks said: I approve of limiting who can immigrate Who or how? My grandfather had to come over twice. First time, he was a WOP. 17 hours ago, dogyks said: Right Back Atcha trade legislation, where our tariffs duplicate those of our trading partners. Congress. Not EO 17 hours ago, dogyks said: "Gender Affirming Care" for children is child abuse and should be charged as a felony. If you want surgery to confirm your identity as a penguin once you reach majority - and you pay for it - knock yourself out. GAC should be between children, parents and doctors and is really none of any one else's business. One of the issues with transitioning in the military is - once hormone treatment started, they were non-deployable for three years. That is the length of an enlistment, so for many they went in just to get the change (affordability). An issue which could be resolved with Universal Healthcare. 15 hours ago, JerryBaumchen said: Any group should be careful when asking for "Special Treatment," given how that worked out previously. Any? How do you feel about the physically disabled? You might want to expand on this. 17 hours ago, dogyks said: Harris would have done nothing I consider useful, so Trump was operationally preferable. He is, unfortunately, entirely revolting, and by no means "my guy." Did you vote FOR the revolting guy? If so; then he is "your guy." Edited March 2 by BIGUN 5 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,528 #1315 March 2 5 hours ago, dogyks said: I think I had you killfiled on DZ, but you haven't shown the level of abuse I seem to recall. We'll see. Interesting. I did think you sounded an awful lot like a Winsor sock puppet for some reason. 5 hours ago, dogyks said: My point is that, while Trump himself is loathsome, what his people are doing is an improvement over anything Harris or Biden had to offer. Thing is, apart from the stuff about making it harder for black people to get an even break, he’s not really doing any of the stuff you want - least of all fiscal responsibility. The damage they’re doing to the government is going to be hugely expensive to repair. As for running it like a business - the 28 year old programmer overseeing the IRS told the staff he’d run it like a tech startup… despite presumably never having worked, much less managed, a tech startup. Still, most startups fail so there’s probably more than a grain of truth to it. His first act? Axing the department in charge of making it easier for people to pay tax because rando on X told Elon it was a hotbed of leftists. I guess tech startups hate revenue? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,056 #1316 March 2 6 hours ago, dogyks said: I My point is that, while Trump himself is loathsome, what his people are doing is an improvement over anything Harris or Biden had to offer. Trump is evil by any definition of the word. Evil, evil, evil. And his people are invariably sycophants and thus enablers of evil, not to mention morons like RFK Jr. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 814 #1317 March 2 23 hours ago, dogyks said: Careful with the projection. I approve of treating government with the same fiscal responsibility as necessary for a successful business (yeah, I know the dumb sonofabitch has a tendency to bankruptcy). I approve of ripping any woke policies out by the roots. Funding DEI is not an option. I approve of picking an official language. My forebears would have done better with French or German, but we picked up some English along the way. I approve of having a military focused on its primary mission, with no consideration of other agenda. I approve of limiting who can immigrate, and have no problem with flouting the rules being an unacceptable option. Many who got to Ellis Island were sent back, and I've lived many places where being there without authorization was a Really Bad Idea. I approve of Right Back Atcha trade legislation, where our tariffs duplicate those of our trading partners. "Gender Affirming Care" for children is child abuse and should be charged as a felony. If you want surgery to confirm your identity as a penguin once you reach majority - and you pay for it - knock yourself out. Any group should be careful when asking for "Special Treatment," given how that worked out previously. Harris would have done nothing I consider useful, so Trump was operationally preferable. He is, unfortunately, entirely revolting, and by no means "my guy." Government isn't and should never be ran as a business. That is not it's function. More so when current leadership has more experience with bankruptcies than with actual successful businesses. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,384 #1318 March 2 18 hours ago, wmw999 said: I'm curious -- which is it you're against -- diversity, equity, or inclusion? Because I knew a manager at the NASA contractor I worked at who would hire Texas Aggies over everyone else if given the option. Yeah, he'd had good luck with them, but good luck with getting any breadth of ideas on solving a problem. Other managers had equal or better work quality with far more diverse workers (just of university, never mind gender and ethnicity). Just because it works in a narrow context doesn't make it the right answer. As far as a national language -- enact it. It would need to be a law, not just a decree. Or is it OK for the president simply to decree things now that it's Trump? As far as the rest? Well, while I'm with you on the need to cut government, I agree with Jerry that a chainsaw isn't exactly the way to go. Just as amputating a leg isn't the best way to lose weight. The military's job isn't the same as it was 80 years ago in WW2, because war isn't the same as it was in WW2. Hand-to-hand combat is a much smaller piece of the pie, and with the increased amount of weight that soldiers now wear with body armor included (average Marine carried 60-120 lbs in Afghanistan and Iraq, over the 50-lb maximum recommended by the Army in 2001), it would seem that individual evaluation would be necessary anyway, not just "male good, female bad." But that's just me; I probably should smile more, huh. I'm not going to go point-by-point, because most of the issues are more nuanced than a one-sentence approach will provide. But it's always more fun simply to give the "easy, obvious" answer to complicated problems, forgetting that it's the very complicated nature that makes them problems. Wendy P. Hi Wendy, Re: while I'm with you on the need to cut government Here is one person's take: Do We Still Have to Pay Taxes With DOGE Running Amok? Jerry Baumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,028 #1319 March 2 On 3/1/2025 at 10:41 AM, dogyks said: I approve of treating government with the same fiscal responsibility as necessary for a successful business (yeah, I know the dumb sonofabitch has a tendency to bankruptcy). I disagree. The measure of success of a government is support of its people's freedoms, providing for essential basic services and defending the country against its enemies. It is not to make a profit. If a company lets itself be taken over by another company, and its shareholders double their money, that company is successful. If Russia took over control of the US and the people here got a hefty payout from Putin - would you consider that a success? Quote I approve of ripping any woke policies out by the roots. Funding DEI is not an option. So you support hiring unqualified white straight men over qualified black, LGBT or female candidates? Because DEI is the opposite of that. DEI is "hire the best candidate REGARDLESS of race or sex or orientation or religion." Quote I approve of having a military focused on its primary mission, with no consideration of other agenda. So no medical facilities in the military? No VA hospitals? No GI bill? No airshows? No recruiting? No on-base housing? Because none of those has anything directly to do with killing people. Quote I approve of limiting who can immigrate, and have no problem with flouting the rules being an unacceptable option OK. So Melania Trump and Elon Musk flouted the rules. Is that acceptable because they are white? Or is it unacceptable, and should be held accountable? Quote "Gender Affirming Care" for children is child abuse and should be charged as a felony. If you want surgery to confirm your identity as a penguin once you reach majority - and you pay for it - knock yourself out. So no breast reduction surgery for female high school swimmers who might have a shot at the Olymics if they get it? No hair transplants for 15 year old boys who are losing all their hair? No breast augmentation for a 17 year old girl who has such lopsided breasts that she is bullied mercilessly? I think that their parents - and not you - are in a better position to decide. Quote Any group should be careful when asking for "Special Treatment," given how that worked out previously. White straight men are all terrified that the special treatment they have gotten for 300 years or so is coming to an end. I can't get too upset about that. Quote Harris would have done nothing I consider useful, so Trump was operationally preferable. A president who does nothing, and lets Congress make all the decisions, is vastly preferable to a president who destroys democracy in the US. Indeed, that is how the Founding Fathers pictured the presidency to work. Harris would have been a president. Trump is working towards being a king. Sad that weak people support kings over presidents. Quote He is, unfortunately, entirely revolting, and by no means "my guy." You chose him. He is your guy, 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
richravizza 28 #1320 March 3 5 hours ago, kallend said: Trump is evil by any definition of the word. Evil, evil, evil. And his people are invariably sycophants and thus enablers of evil, not to mention morons like RFK Jr. LOL that is a good one! The New Left now uses the word unabashedly, ironic,Troll. Aren't you a Professor... ? ..well since we like to do, the flippiddy do, the jokes are on you; and we should suppose Dr.J is evil too. You poor fools. So in the words of a man named phil " your teachers have failed you" but at least you're just a tool. Signed the Cynical Publius Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,028 #1321 March 3 2 hours ago, richravizza said: LOL that is a good one! The New Left now uses the word unabashedly, ironic,Troll. Yes. Rapists are evil. If you don't think so - sad for you and those close to you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
richravizza 28 #1322 Monday at 10:57 PM 2 hours ago, billvon said: So you support hiring unqualified white straight men over qualified black, LGBT or female candidates? Because DEI is the opposite of that. DEI is "hire the best candidate REGARDLESS of race or sex or orientation or religion." Bill you have learned nothing. Why do you assume a default of discrimination, seems to be a default in the religion. Why would you assume his support of hiring anyone unqualified then assume SWM preference? DEI is not the opposite, it inculcates the preference, Ironically described in your assumptive SWM question. 2 hours ago, billvon said: White straight men are all terrified that the special treatment they have gotten for 300 years or so is coming to an end. I can't get too upset about that. OMG like listening to the DNC convention.Raise your hand if you think racism and sexism lead to Harris's defeat.... Good you all passed. Now we will instruct you on who you can vote for. For those interested,we elected two SWM.lol 3 hours ago, billvon said: So no breast reduction surgery for female high school swimmers who might have a shot at the Olymics if they get it? No hair transplants for 15 year old boys who are losing all their hair? No breast augmentation for a 17 year old girl who has such lopsided breasts that she is bullied mercilessly? I think that their parents - and not you - are in a better position to decide. No I think he means no castration,serializations and blockers to confused parents and equally confessed kids.Stop professing what the Cass report refuted what the Wpath files revealed.... acknowledge the injustices done to girls and celebrate in DR.J fashion, a vindication of courage displayed in the likes of Riley Gains.A video interview with Mike Rowe showcased the lack of courage, no the cowardice men showed in protecting girls and women sports.I once told you she was worth more than her weight in gold. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiyfOYjB47g Talk about the emperor having no clothes. Daddy why ... lol . I'll spare you the jokes as I'm sure they'll be lost. It's about parental rights, Now.?... ,rolmao Not during Covid school closures,mandates,passports or lockdowns and but, Now? Not when Porn and Queer books were discovered in our libraries,when parents were stupid and it's was all just a conspiracy and worthy of a watchlist. I suppose some contradictions are not apparent.Luxury beliefs, or a selective amnesia to confirm a immediate political bias and virtue. Your likes have been ruling us, for twelve of the last sixteen years....so it's time to let us govern for a change. Look up the term; Abuse thru neglect, it may give you a better perspective of your electorate. On 3/2/2025 at 2:24 PM, billvon said: You chose him. He is your guy, You mean democracy, Agreed. Ironically, You were told how and who to vote for. I thought you'd appreciate the source https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2024/12/democrats-election-loss-identity/680993/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,475 #1323 Tuesday at 02:15 AM When I was working, and involved with DEI, our mantra was we interviewed at a wide variety of places (including HBCU job fairs), and then picked according to our needs. People pick not only according to pure “qualifications,” but they also use more subjective criteria, like fitting with the team, and whether they dressed like white people How do I know? I was in the discussions, and my manager was the only one who even interviewed the young man from the HBCU with a straight A average with a math degree and a minor in computer science. He hired him, and subsequently did, in fact, counsel him on dressing a little less hiphop. His job performance was just fine; he was a fresh grad of barely 21, so he had some maturing to do, but who doesn’t at 21? Could I find fault? Sure. But there are faults in nearly every employee; it’s all a matter of which ones you accept, and why. Wendy P. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,384 #1324 Tuesday at 02:27 AM 11 minutes ago, wmw999 said: When I was working, and involved with DEI, our mantra was we interviewed at a wide variety of places (including HBCU job fairs), and then picked according to our needs. People pick not only according to pure “qualifications,” but they also use more subjective criteria, like fitting with the team, and whether they dressed like white people How do I know? I was in the discussions, and my manager was the only one who even interviewed the young man from the HBCU with a straight A average with a math degree and a minor in computer science. He hired him, and subsequently did, in fact, counsel him on dressing a little less hiphop. His job performance was just fine; he was a fresh grad of barely 21, so he had some maturing to do, but who doesn’t at 21? Could I find fault? Sure. But there are faults in nearly every employee; it’s all a matter of which ones you accept, and why. Wendy P. Hi Wendy, Based upon my checking; no one is perfect. Jerry Baumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,028 #1325 Tuesday at 02:32 AM 3 hours ago, richravizza said: Why do you assume a default of discrimination, seems to be a default Because it has been the default. To this day, "black sounding" names get interviews less often. That's discrimination. Quote Why would you assume his support of hiring anyone unqualified then assume SWM preference? Because, again, that's been the default. For a simple proof of this, JD Vance was admitted to college under a DEI program. When I pointed this out to conservatives, a good half of them replied with "that's absurd, he's white." Quote DEI is not the opposite, it inculcates the preference, Ironically described in your assumptive SWM question. DEI is indeed the opposite. It means hire anyone if they are qualified, regardless of their race or sex or gender. D. It says hire anyone qualified even if they need a handicapped parking spot. E. It says provide services that some employees need (like mother's rooms) even if they are a small percentage of the workforce. I. Quote No I think he means no castration,serializations and blockers Oh I know what YOU think it means. No gender affirming care for trans kids. But gender affirming care for cis kids? No problem! And if you think that just makes sense - you are the problem. Quote It's about parental rights, Now.? Yes, now AND then. Even if you don't understand the issues. Quote Not when Porn and Queer books were discovered in our libraries,when parents were stupid and it's was all just a conspiracy and worthy of a watchlist. Do you think porn is the same as books about queer kids? How about books about straight kids? Are they OK? Again, if one is OK but not the other - that's homophobia. Quote You mean democracy If you were supporting democracy you would have voted for Harris. You prefer a dictator, as long as the dictator does what you want. Don't feel bad - most US conservatives are like you. https://pro.morningconsult.com/trend-setters/global-right-wing-authoritarian-test 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites