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[wmw999 2,514]

2 hours ago, kallend said:

Trump shows he has no conception of service during exploitive Arlington photo-op:

https://www.theatlantic.com/newsletters/archive/2024/08/trump-dishonors-fallen-soldiers-again/679644/

What he also has is no concept of human respect.

Wendy P.

[kallend 2,098]

46 minutes ago, wmw999 said:

What he also has is no concept of human respect.

Wendy P.

Well, in his mind everything, everything is about him.  

He gets more unhinged by the day:

Trump reposts incendiary messages
Blasts shared on Truth Social after new indictment
By Michelle L. Price Associated Press
NEW YORK — Donald Trump shared more than a dozen posts on his social media network Wednesday that call for the trial or jailing of House lawmakers who investigated the attack on the U.S. Capitol, special counsel Jack Smith and others, along with images that reference the QAnon conspiracy theory.
The former president began posting a string of messages Tuesday evening after Smith filed a new indictment against him over his efforts to undo his loss in the 2020 presidential election. The new indictment keeps the same criminal charges but narrows the allegations against Trump following a Supreme Court opinion last month that extended broad immunity to former presidents.
Trump reposted a doctored image that was made to look like President Joe Biden, Vice President Kamala Harris, former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton in orange prison jumpsuits, among other political figures, and a lewd post about Harris and Clinton that referenced a sex act. One post seemed to suggest former President Barack Obama should be tried in a military court.
Trump has long talked about seeking retribution against perceived enemies if he wins a second term. He has publicly bristled in recent weeks at the advice of his campaign advisers to focus his message on policy around the economy and the border rather than indulge in personal attacks that were seen as distracting from the case he’s trying to make to voters.
His campaign did not respond to a message seeking comment Wednesday about the flurry of posts on Truth Social, the former president’s social media network where he communicates primarily to his most devoted base of supporters.
Tuesday night and Wednesday morning, the Republican candidate posted messages in his own words reacting to the indictment and renewing his complaints about the gag order he’s under in his New York hush money criminal case.
Trump then began sharing more than a dozen posts from other users on the network that included the calls for Smith to be prosecuted, the lawmakers on the House committee investigating the Capitol attack to be jailed, and more. One image showed Smith with devil horns and red eyes.
A spokesman for Smith declined to comment Wednesday.
James Singer, a spokesperson for the Harris campaign, said the posts show what Trump is offering the country: “prosecuting political opponents, using dangerous conspiracy theories to justify harmful policies, and dividing Americans against each other.”
One post featured an image of Trump and former President Barack Obama with the words, “All roads lead to Obama... retruth if you want public military tribunals.”
Some of the other posts Trump shared included phrases circulated among followers of QAnon, the pro-Trump conspiracy theory, including “Nothing can stop what is coming,” “Hold the line” and “WWG1WGA” — which is an initialism for “Where we go one, we go all.”
Trump in recent years has openly embraced followers of QAnon after years of winking at the theory, centered on the baseless belief that Trump is waging a secret campaign against enemies in the “deep state” and a child sex trafficking ring run by satanic pedophiles and cannibals.
The former president’s indulgence of the conspiracy theory is among the ways Trump has embraced the far-right fringe of his political movement. Trump has also championed those jailed for their role in the violent Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the U.S. Capitol.
Trump is listed as an invited guest speaker at the J6 Awards Gala fundraiser on Sept. 5 at his golf club in Bedminster, New Jersey, for defendants charged in the insurrection. The event is advertised online as intending to “honor and celebrate the twenty defendants who contributed to the powerful ‘Justice For All’ song.”
Trump has played the song — a version of “The Star-Spangled Banner” sung by a group of defendants jailed over their alleged roles in the 2021 violence and recorded over a jail phone line, overlaid with Trump reciting the Pledge of Allegiance — at some of his campaign rallies in recent years.

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Edited August 29, 2024 by kallend

[ryoder 1,590]

2 hours ago, wmw999 said:

What he also has is no concept of human respect.

Wendy P.

That's the great thing about being a narcissist/psychopath; You don't need to spend any time thinking about others!

[SkyDekker 1,465]

6 hours ago, kallend said:

Trump shows he has no conception of service during exploitive Arlington photo-op:

https://www.theatlantic.com/newsletters/archive/2024/08/trump-dishonors-fallen-soldiers-again/679644/

He doesn't care about service members, soldiers or anything like that. Everything is based on how he can profit from it, or gain a political advantage. That is all he cares about.

The man has zero human decency.

Also why all these attempted equivalencies are so incredibly stupid.

[JerryBaumchen 1,420]

Hi folks,

Looks like J D is learning from his leader:  he argued that the Trump-Vance ticket was the “most pro-worker Republican ticket in history.”  JD Vance draws boos at firefighter union event in Boston (thehill.com)

The amount of horse puckey coming from these two is just getting going.

Jerry Baumchen

PS)  I am the most pro-human, non-candidate in history.

[wolfriverjoe 1,523]

12 hours ago, kallend said:

Trump shows he has no conception of service during exploitive Arlington photo-op:

https://www.theatlantic.com/newsletters/archive/2024/08/trump-dishonors-fallen-soldiers-again/679644/

One of his minions assaulted a worker who tried to stop them.

The little Trumpkins also claimed the worker seemed to be suffering from a mental illness (really).
The worker declined to press charges out of fear of retaliation from the MAGA Morons.

The level of idiocy & disrespect are insane.
The defense of it by the MAGA Morons is pretty awful too.

[Phil1111 1,149]

1 minute ago, wolfriverjoe said:

One of his minions assaulted a worker who tried to stop them.

The little Trumpkins also claimed the worker seemed to be suffering from a mental illness (really).
The worker declined to press charges out of fear of retaliation from the MAGA Morons.

The level of idiocy & disrespect are insane.
The defense of it by the MAGA Morons is pretty awful too.

It won't end on election day. It will continue well past President Harris's inauguration.

J.D. Vance now has an unfavourable rating 10% above his favourable rating. Which is really only one percent worse than trumps!

[wolfriverjoe 1,523]

1 minute ago, Phil1111 said:

It won't end on election day. It will continue well past President Harris's inauguration.

J.D. Vance now has an unfavourable rating 10% above his favourable rating. Which is really only one percent worse than trumps!

Oh yeah. 

Trying to get all the MAGA morons shoved back under their rocks isn't going to happen. 

Part of me hopes they'll try another insurrection. Another thousand or so getting sent to jail & prison would be kinda funny.

I'd only hope (and expect) that they won't be allowed to simply go home at the end of it.
I'd think the security that would be in place would stop them.

[nigel99 556]

ABBA have joined other musicians in telling Trump he is not allowed to use their songs. 
I find it funny how the music industry is constantly hitting him and videos are being forced to be taken down.

[wmw999 2,514]

1 hour ago, wolfriverjoe said:

The worker declined to press charges out of fear of retaliation from the MAGA Morons

Thereby proving that bullying and terrorism work. But I understand it; they really can make life intolerable, especially with threats against family and children

Wendy P. 

[JerryBaumchen 1,420]

Hi folks,

There is an old saying about; If you lay with dogs, you will get fleas.

Looks like another Trump attorney is now worried about his future:  Jeffrey Clark cites Donald Trump indictment removal in bid to keep license (thehill.com)

No tears from me,

Jerry Baumchen

[kallend 2,098]

Still more delying tactics from the adulterer-in-chief.

https://apnews.com/article/trump-hush-money-trial-new-york-conviction-sentencing-8389e21c214b79220e6530a395a61192

I'd love to see him end up in prison.

 

[winsor 236]

29 minutes ago, kallend said:

Still more delying tactics from the adulterer-in-chief.

https://apnews.com/article/trump-hush-money-trial-new-york-conviction-sentencing-8389e21c214b79220e6530a395a61192

I'd love to see him end up in prison.

 

Look up James Michael Curley of Boston.  Part of his last term as mayor was spent in Danbury Federal Prison and, when Truman commuted his sentence, he was given a hero's welcome upon his return.

Of course he was a Boston Irish Democrat so it was completely different.

[tkhayes 348]

1 hour ago, kallend said:

Still more delying tactics from the adulterer-in-chief.

https://apnews.com/article/trump-hush-money-trial-new-york-conviction-sentencing-8389e21c214b79220e6530a395a61192

I'd love to see him end up in prison.

 

I expect there is absolutely ZERO legal basis for any of his pleadings, but of course, it is donald trump, who gets automatic exclusive preferred treatment in the legal system

[wmw999 2,514]

59 minutes ago, winsor said:

Look up James Michael Curley of Boston.  Part of his last term as mayor was spent in Danbury Federal Prison and, when Truman commuted his sentence, he was given a hero's welcome upon his return.

Of course he was a Boston Irish Democrat so it was completely different.

Naw, in retrospect he was a scumbag, too. Too many people are OK with the sliding scale of scumbag sliding further when it’s one of their homeys, and both Curley and Boston were Irish.

No one is perfect, but each of us really gotta try to use the same measuring stick when measuring the same behavior as much as possible — including the consideration of context.

Wendy P. 

[nigel99 556]

52 minutes ago, tkhayes said:

I expect there is absolutely ZERO legal basis for any of his pleadings, but of course, it is donald trump, who gets automatic exclusive preferred treatment in the legal system

The only area where I agree with Trump is that the US justice system is dysfunctional and corrupt. Where I differ from him is that he is being given the royal treatment rather than being victimised.

This has dragged on for far too long and the American public have been denied justice. Trump has a known history of delay tactics, this should have been countered from day 1 by denying him bail and placing him under some form of confinement. 

Edited August 30, 2024 by nigel99

[tkhayes 348]

3 minutes ago, nigel99 said:

The only area where I agree with Trump is that the US justice system is dysfunctional and corrupt.

No it isn't..... broad statements like that offer absolutely NOTHING to the conversation and only offer vague rhetorical division designed to do nothing but continue the conspiracy theories that already exist

there is no perfect justice system but stating that it is corrupt is simply denying any reality that exists in the world today.  The system works most of the time. Prisons are FILLED with convicted criminals.   It takes too long in some cases, and it offers rights to the rich that no one else can afford.  That is not corruption, it may very well be dysfunctional.  Any system that exists has room for improvement. 

I am sure when the guy that rapes your daughter gets 20-25 years in prison, that you would not be clamoring for the dysfunctional and corrupt system that put that person away.

But electing the criminals does nothing to address either of your concerns.

[nigel99 556]

4 minutes ago, tkhayes said:

No it isn't..... broad statements like that offer absolutely NOTHING to the conversation and only offer vague rhetorical division designed to do nothing but continue the conspiracy theories that already exist

there is no perfect justice system but stating that it is corrupt is simply denying any reality that exists in the world today.  The system works most of the time. Prisons are FILLED with convicted criminals.   It takes too long in some cases, and it offers rights to the rich that no one else can afford.  That is not corruption, it may very well be dysfunctional.  Any system that exists has room for improvement. 

I am sure when the guy that rapes your daughter gets 20-25 years in prison, that you would not be clamoring for the dysfunctional and corrupt system that put that person away.

But electing the criminals does nothing to address either of your concerns.

I suspect you’ve misunderstood me. It appears that in the US rich and powerful people are given special dispensation and the poor get treated badly.  How is it justice when the Trumps and Bannons of this world can happily stay free during appeals etc and yet if you’re the wrong demographic you get locked up pending trial? 

My belief is that justice should be blind - obviously that’s idealistic and can never be - hundred percent true. I suspect that if it was you or I with 34 felonies and multiple other pending criminal trials we would be incarcerated already.

[tkhayes 348]

38 minutes ago, nigel99 said:

I suspect you’ve misunderstood me. It appears that in the US rich and powerful people are given special dispensation and the poor get treated badly.  How is it justice when the Trumps and Bannons of this world can happily stay free during appeals etc and yet if you’re the wrong demographic you get locked up pending trial? 

My belief is that justice should be blind - obviously that’s idealistic and can never be - hundred percent true. I suspect that if it was you or I with 34 felonies and multiple other pending criminal trials we would be incarcerated already.

agreed, fair enough.  But I do not think that is corruption, that is just plain dysfunctional and can only be fixed by writing better laws and implementing better policy.  Sadly, those that are the criminals are often in the position to do this, so they have no incentive.

I am not sure there was any time in the history of mankind where the wealthy and powerful did not enjoy greater privilege than others.  Of course, that is not a reason to pursue the utopia....

[jakee 1,554]

1 hour ago, tkhayes said:

The system works most of the time. Prisons are FILLED with convicted criminals.  

Those are two things that have absolutely nothing to do with each other. 

[jakee 1,554]

2 hours ago, winsor said:

Look up James Michael Curley of Boston.  Part of his last term as mayor was spent in Danbury Federal Prison and, when Truman commuted his sentence, he was given a hero's welcome upon his return.

Of course he was a Boston Irish Democrat so it was completely different.

That’s a good point. All that stuff Truman was saying about Trump in the last election was very hypocritical.

[johnhking1 97]

Maybe Vance agreed to be Trump's running mate because he knew Trump was nuts and unhinged and if elected he could become president through the 25th amendment.

[winsor 236]

2 minutes ago, johnhking1 said:

Maybe Vance agreed to be Trump's running mate because he knew Trump was nuts and unhinged and if elected he could become president through the 25th amendment.

I'm cool with Trump being banished to political Siberia and Harris being thwarted.

The problem I have is the same as with the overthrow of every horrible leader, their replacement is often much worse; the veep candidates on both sides are case studies in mediocrity.  The more I know about them, the less I like them.

The current crop of contenders make Tricky Dick Nixon look brilliant, a possibility I didn't consider when I worked for him.

This election consists of trying to pick the least disastrous choice, and I can't see why things will be any better in 4 years.  I think this go around is a reflection of the toxicity of our political system at present.

[tkhayes 348]

11 minutes ago, winsor said:

I'm cool with Trump being banished to political Siberia and Harris being thwarted.

The problem I have is the same as with the overthrow of every horrible leader, their replacement is often much worse; the veep candidates on both sides are case studies in mediocrity.  The more I know about them, the less I like them.

The current crop of contenders make Tricky Dick Nixon look brilliant, a possibility I didn't consider when I worked for him.

This election consists of trying to pick the least disastrous choice, and I can't see why things will be any better in 4 years.  I think this go around is a reflection of the toxicity of our political system at present.

you keep using the word 'disastrous' without providing anything to support such strong language.  fer fuck's sake, GWB took us into two wars based on fucking lies, killed a million civilians and thousands of americans in those wars, which went on for 20+ years and cost us well over $10T.  you survived that and you and the country are still here, functioning. 

I am pretty sure that your morning this morning was the same pretty much as every morning you have had in the past 3 decades.

cry wolf..... if our choices today are 'disastrous', then I expect and ask for some examples that are at least on par with the war crimes of GWB.....

[SkyDekker 1,465]

1 hour ago, winsor said:

This election consists of trying to pick the least disastrous choice,

Except it doesn't.

One side:

• rape
• felony
• ban travel for pregnant women

other side:

• none of the above