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[Phil1111 1,149]

13 hours ago, nigel99 said:

https://www.timesnownews.com/world/us/us-news/was-donald-trump-affected-by-e-coli-outbreak-mcdonalds-visit-sparks-rumors-article-114481009

Worked at McDonalds for 30 minutes and caused an e-coli outbreak in multiple states.

What ironic timing for poor old Trump. Probably doesn’t want to promote his McDonald stunt too much now

Leaky diapers in the food prep area, like duh!

[JerryBaumchen 1,425]

Hi folks,

Looks like Mitch if finally facing the truth; even as he says he will vote for Trump:  Unfortunately, the Kentucky Republican said, about half of the country's Republicans "believe whatever he says."

Mitch McConnell: MAGA Republican Party would be 'unrecognizable' to Ronald Reagan

Unfortunately, he will not support Harris.  Just another GOP loser.

Jerry Baumchen

 

[nigel99 559]

19 minutes ago, JerryBaumchen said:

Hi folks,

Looks like Mitch if finally facing the truth; even as he says he will vote for Trump:  Unfortunately, the Kentucky Republican said, about half of the country's Republicans "believe whatever he says."

Mitch McConnell: MAGA Republican Party would be 'unrecognizable' to Ronald Reagan

Unfortunately, he will not support Harris.  Just another GOP loser.

Jerry Baumchen

 

I think he’s a slime ball who is covering his arse. The only positive I can take from that is that Mitch is seeing that Donald may lose and wants to make sure he’s on record.

If he was confident of a Trump win he would admit nothing

[Phil1111 1,149]

More testimonials are coming out that sex predator Jeffrey Epstein and trump were best buddies. "Stacey Williams, who worked as a professional model in the 1990s, said she first met Trump in 1992 at a Christmas party after being introduced to him by Epstein, who she believed was a good friend of the then New York real estate developer." Subsequently trump groped her to impress Epstein.

 

[ryoder 1,590]

On 10/20/2024 at 1:32 PM, JerryBaumchen said:

Hi folks,

Time to get out the handcuffs:  Federal law states anyone who "pays or offers to pay or accepts payment either for registration to vote or for voting" faces a potential $10,000 fine or five year prison sentence.

Elon Musk pledges to give away $1m per day to Pennsylvania voters

Jerry Baumchen

Never fear; He found a workaround:

Elon Musk Found A Way To Make His Illegal Voter Drive Legal: Don't Actually Pay Anyone

This likely isn’t an intentional move to skirt the law from Musk — he’s already shown a willingness to brazenly flout regulations — but could instead fall under the general huckster, snake oil salesman approach that he brings to all aspects of his life outside of white supremacy. Think of these $47 payments like the Hyperloop, or self-driving cars, or the Springfield Monorail.

[lippy 918]

7 hours ago, ryoder said:

…..or the Springfield Monorail.

Is there a chance the track could bend?

[billvon 3,063]

17 minutes ago, lippy said:

Is there a chance the track could bend?

Not on your life, my gullible friend!

[ryoder 1,590]

17 hours ago, lippy said:

Is there a chance the track could bend?

When I read that last item, I did not realize what it was referencing. I just assumed it was yet another Elmo flop I had forgotten.

Then googling turned up it was "The Simpsons" S4E12. So I watched it last night. ;-)

[nigel99 559]

How the hell does American politics even give this clown a chance? From the CNN article on the Joe Rogan interview 

“Here is a fact check of 32 false claims Trump made to Rogan. This is not intended as a complete list of the inaccurate statements Trump uttered in the interview; with just over a week to go until Election Day, we were unable to look into every dubious assertion he made.”

[wolfriverjoe 1,523]

21 minutes ago, nigel99 said:

How the hell does American politics even give this clown a chance? From the CNN article on the Joe Rogan interview 

“Here is a fact check of 32 false claims Trump made to Rogan. This is not intended as a complete list of the inaccurate statements Trump uttered in the interview; with just over a week to go until Election Day, we were unable to look into every dubious assertion he made.”

Everything he says is a lie.

 

EVERY SINGLE THING. 

[lippy 918]

6 hours ago, ryoder said:

When I read that last item, I did not realize what it was referencing. I just assumed it was yet another Elmo flop I had forgotten.

Then googling turned up it was "The Simpsons" S4E12. So I watched it last night. ;-)

Okay so I wasn't going to risk derailing the thread asking about Bill's response, but now I'm curious.  The original episode had Apu asking 'Is there a chance the track could bend?' and the huckster replies "not on your life, my Hindu friend"....In Bill's response he said 'my gullible friend'...

A few years back, comedian Hari Kondabolu (who is fucking hilarious and generally brilliant) made a documentary called 'The Problem With Apu' that called out the racist stereotype of the long-time Simpson's character.  He made some really good points about the casual racism that the character was based on, and The Simpsons ultimately got rid of Apu in response to the doc.  I wasn't sure if Bill was quoting a post-Apu edit of the episode or if the original is still playing....By chance do you remember?

****As long as I'm thread-drifting on the Monorail episode; when I was 17, some friends and I got kicked out of a campground because we were next to some Mennonite campers and us, being young dipshit assholes, were around the fire late at night singing a rendition of the Monorail song with 'Mennonite' instead of 'Monorail'....

[billvon 3,063]

27 minutes ago, lippy said:

I wasn't sure if Bill was quoting a post-Apu edit of the episode or if the original is still playing....By chance do you remember?

Nope, just tailoring the lyrics to this situation, specifically a Trump/Musk supporter who believes in his great new monorail.

[ryoder 1,590]

4 hours ago, lippy said:

Okay so I wasn't going to risk derailing the thread asking about Bill's response, but now I'm curious.  The original episode had Apu asking 'Is there a chance the track could bend?' and the huckster replies "not on your life, my Hindu friend"....

That was the line when I streamed it last night via Apple TV.

[billvon 3,063]

At Trump's latest rally, Tucker Carlson gave attendees a vivid Trumpian fantasy.

He talked about "daddy Trump" returning home, where his "hormone-addled 15-year-old daughter” slams the door and gives her mother the finger.

“And when Dad gets home, you know what he says? You’ve been a bad girl. You’ve been a bad little girl and you’re getting a vigorous spanking right now.  And, no, it’s not going to hurt me more than it hurts you. No it’s not. I’m not going to lie. It’s going to hurt you a lot more than it hurts me. And you earned this. You’re getting a vigorous spanking because you’ve been a bad girl, and it has to be this way.”

I'm not sure if it's creepier to think that Trump supporters fantasize about giving liberal women a "vigorous spanking" - or whether they fantasize over doing that to their 15 year old daughters.

[normiss 843]

7 hours ago, billvon said:

At Trump's latest rally, Tucker Carlson gave attendees a vivid Trumpian fantasy.

He talked about "daddy Trump" returning home, where his "hormone-addled 15-year-old daughter” slams the door and gives her mother the finger.

“And when Dad gets home, you know what he says? You’ve been a bad girl. You’ve been a bad little girl and you’re getting a vigorous spanking right now.  And, no, it’s not going to hurt me more than it hurts you. No it’s not. I’m not going to lie. It’s going to hurt you a lot more than it hurts me. And you earned this. You’re getting a vigorous spanking because you’ve been a bad girl, and it has to be this way.”

I'm not sure if it's creepier to think that Trump supporters fantasize about giving liberal women a "vigorous spanking" - or whether they fantasize over doing that to their 15 year old daughters.

Well, if she wasn't his daughter .....

[Phil1111 1,149]

8 hours ago, billvon said:

At Trump's latest rally, Tucker Carlson gave attendees a vivid Trumpian fantasy.

He talked about "daddy Trump" returning home, where his "hormone-addled 15-year-old daughter” slams the door and gives her mother the finger.

“And when Dad gets home, you know what he says? You’ve been a bad girl. You’ve been a bad little girl and you’re getting a vigorous spanking right now.  And, no, it’s not going to hurt me more than it hurts you. No it’s not. I’m not going to lie. It’s going to hurt you a lot more than it hurts me. And you earned this. You’re getting a vigorous spanking because you’ve been a bad girl, and it has to be this way.”

I'm not sure if it's creepier to think that Trump supporters fantasize about giving liberal women a "vigorous spanking" - or whether they fantasize over doing that to their 15 year old daughters.

This is just a segment of the MAGA authoritarian thinking mind. With a leader like trump any democratic ideals will be swept aside. MAGA culture will put submissive women back in the kitchen where they belong.“You will no longer be in danger. … You will no longer have anxiety from all of the problems our country has today. You will be protected, and I will be your protector.”

Your quote deals with the children of the non-college degree white male MAGA subject. Their wives (female only wives) will all be submissive and respectful to the male leader of the family. For the children drugs, social pressures and any forces that cause them to break christian, nuclear family ideals will be gone. If they transgress the state, the church and the submissive wife will all approve a spanking.

Just like the  Catholic priests used to do.

Edited October 28, 2024 by Phil1111

[wmw999 2,517]

An interesting read in the Washington Post today; they interviewed dozens (per the article) of Trump and Harris supporters to gauge their reactions to a possible defeat. The Harris voters would be devastated, the Trump supporters (at least the ones interviewed) would be more resigned. None of the ones they quoted supported the January 6 shenanigans, even though nearly all bought into the big lie that the election was rigged. 

 

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By Colby Itkowitz

 and 

HyoJung Kim

October 28, 2024 at 6:00 a.m. EDT

The American electorate is deeply divided over its choice in this year’s presidential election, with Donald Trump and Kamala Harris both stressing that the fate of American democracy is on the line. No matter who wins, about half the country won’t get its way.

st how upset will the losing side be? Will supporters of the defeated candidate accept the results? Or will they try to overturn them, as Trump and his allies attempted to do in 2020?

 

The Washington Post attended campaign rallies on subsequent days less than 40 miles apart in the battleground state of Michigan this month. We spoke to nearly 60 devoted fans of either Trump or Harris across both events. We asked each person questions about their worst-case scenario — a victory by the other side. While some of the answers were similar across the rival camps, the differences were illuminating.

How would you feel if your candidate lost?

The first question we asked every person was how they would feel if their candidate lost.

Harris voters were visibly shaken by the possibility of a Trump victory, repeatedly using a variation of the word “devastated” to describe their emotional state if she loses. Voters like Cinda Lark, 57, a yoga studio owner, said she would be not only devastated but also “horrified.”

 

“There are no words,” she said. “He can’t win.”

Trump voters said they would be disappointed but also seemed more resigned to a possible loss. Some, like Santiago Zarazua, 70, a former General Motors employee, shrugged when asked about a Trump defeat. “I’ll leave it in God’s hands,” he said.

Will you trust the results of the election?

Although Harris supporters said they couldn’t fathom a Trump victory, most also did not believe that an election in the United States would be stolen. They described a faith in America’s voting systems. One woman, Patrice Stiehl, 71, a retired social worker, said that she works at the polls on Election Day and that “there’s too many checks and balances” for anyone to steal an election.

 

 

By contrast, nearly all of the Trump supporters we spoke with were convinced that the 2020 election had been stolen from Trump and believe, as he has warned, that fraud and cheating could cost him the White House again. (There is no evidence of any significant fraud in the 2020 election or of cheating ahead of this one.) Kourtney Rademacher, 35, a caregiver, said it was “impossible” that the results were accurate in 2020.

She said she believes “they’re plotting to do the same stuff again.”

Do you think Trump or Harris should challenge the result?

Trump supporters largely thought he should challenge the results again if he loses. But many also said the system is so rigged against him that such an effort wouldn’t succeed. His supporters notably did not express interest in a repeat of the heated rhetoric that led to the violent insurrection at the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021. Some, like Arthur Garcia, 68, a retired computer technician, said Trump “can’t do anything about [a loss] because they [stole it] already once.”

Trump has already given so much to the country, he said, that if he loses he should retire and “enjoy his money, go on a beach and have a margarita.”

Harris supporters were unanimous in their belief that Trump would not accept the results if he loses. If Harris were to lose, they thought she would not challenge the outcome because, unlike Trump, she trusts and respects the nation’s elections. Patrick Daniels, 37, a law student, said he doesn’t think Harris should challenge the results and he doesn’t expect that she would. “We can’t move forward as a country if this is how every election is going to be,” he said.

What would you do if Trump or Harris lost?

Supporters of both Trump and Harris described a loss in next month’s presidential election as a threat to American democracy. But Harris voters expressed a deep, existential dread that the country’s future will be imperiled if Trump wins. While some said they would continue to try to stay involved at the local and state level, many others said they would want to leave the country. Many said it lightly, almost as a joke. But Carmalita Brewer, 67, who babysits and works at Target, said she’s “really scared.”

“His people are violent, very violent, and I’m terrified that it’s going to get worse,” she said.

Trump supporters said they worried about the country turning communist or being overrun by illegal immigrants if he lost. But they also seemed to have a less visceral reaction to the notion of his defeat. Several said they would pray for the country. But there was resignation to the idea that there was nothing they could do. Angel Ramirez, 39, a store manager at a gas station, said she didn’t like the way Trump handled the aftermath of the last election.

“I don’t like the country fighting the way it has been,” she said. “It just sucks. It sucks.”

 

Wendy P.

[wolfriverjoe 1,523]

16 minutes ago, wmw999 said:

Trump has already given so much to the country, he said, that if he loses he should retire and “enjoy his money, go on a beach and have a margarita.”

I was unaware that either beaches or margaritas are available in prison.

[normiss 843]

36 minutes ago, Phil1111 said:

This is just a segment of the MAGA authoritarian thinking mind. With a leader like trump any democratic ideals will be swept aside. MAGA culture will put submissive women back in the kitchen where they belong.“You will no longer be in danger. … You will no longer have anxiety from all of the problems our country has today. You will be protected, and I will be your protector.”

Your quote deals with the children of the non-college degree white male MAGA subject. Their wives (female only wives) will all be submissive and respectful to the male leader of the family. For the children drugs, social pressures and any forces that cause them to break christian, nuclear family ideals will be gone. If they transgress the state, the church and the submissive wife will all approve a spanking.

Just like the  Catholic priests used to do.

I tried explaining (mansplaining???) to Skymama this weekend that Trump will win and that she will have to do as I say from now on.

   

We laughed.

[Phil1111 1,149]

1 minute ago, normiss said:

I tried explaining (mansplaining???) to Skymama this weekend that Trump will win and that she will have to do as I say from now on.

   

We laughed.

I'd laugh as well if it wasn't so scary. The trump rally went on after the above "spanking" talk.

"The crowd went wild. And when Donald Trump came to the stage, it greeted him with rapturous cries of “Daddy’s home.” This segment of the nation, it seems, is eager for a spanking. Or at least titillated at the prospect of pain inflicted on others. This is not a new phenomenon within the MAGA movement, which has always been keen on the pain of those it deems wayward — but it is a florid illustration of the way patriarchal family dynamics and punishment stand at the center of contemporary right-wing morality."

Your relationship with Skymama is between the two of you. Just let everyone here know if she has to start calling you 'Daddy".

[normiss 843]

8 minutes ago, Phil1111 said:

I'd laugh as well if it wasn't so scary. The trump rally went on after the above "spanking" talk.

"The crowd went wild. And when Donald Trump came to the stage, it greeted him with rapturous cries of “Daddy’s home.” This segment of the nation, it seems, is eager for a spanking. Or at least titillated at the prospect of pain inflicted on others. This is not a new phenomenon within the MAGA movement, which has always been keen on the pain of those it deems wayward — but it is a florid illustration of the way patriarchal family dynamics and punishment stand at the center of contemporary right-wing morality."

Your relationship with Skymama is between the two of you. Just let everyone here know if she has to start calling you 'Daddy".

ewwww

[ryoder 1,590]

Someone is not impressed with Elmo's (probably empty) latest promise:

Philadelphia DA sues Elon Musk PAC to stop $1 million lottery for voters

[billvon 3,063]

37 minutes ago, Phil1111 said:

I'd laugh as well if it wasn't so scary. The trump rally went on after the above "spanking" talk.

Followed up by this, from speaker Tony Hinchcliffe: "There’s literally a floating island of garbage in the middle of the ocean right now. I think it’s called Puerto Rico.  And these Latinos, they love making babies too. Just know that. They do. They do. There’s no pulling out. They don’t do that. They come inside.  Just like they did to our country.”

 

[ryoder 1,590]

13 minutes ago, billvon said:

Followed up by this, from speaker Tony Hinchcliffe: "There’s literally a floating island of garbage in the middle of the ocean right now. I think it’s called Puerto Rico.  And these Latinos, they love making babies too. Just know that. They do. They do. There’s no pulling out. They don’t do that. They come inside.  Just like they did to our country.”

 

So the fool doesn't know PR is a part of the US?

[Phil1111 1,149]

21 minutes ago, ryoder said:

Someone is not impressed with Elmo's (probably empty) latest promise:

Philadelphia DA sues Elon Musk PAC to stop $1 million lottery for voters

Doesn't worry MAGAs.  DAs and the DOJ is all a part of the Elon Musk $2 trillion dollar cut to government spending.

"Elon Musk claimed he can eliminate at least $2 trillion from the federal budget, laying out his vision for substantial government spending cuts if Donald Trump wins the presidency.

“Your money is being wasted,” Musk said Sunday at a rally for Trump in New York’s Madison Square Garden. “We’re going to get the government off your back and out of your pocket book.”

So for MAGA's that a cut government spending by 1/3.