Slowest start to Atlantic hurricane season…

[brenthutch 444]

5 minutes ago, tkhayes said:

Biden is not a climate scientist, and you have yet to acknowledge that the vast majority of climate scientists think your view of the world is incorrect.

Biden is advised by climate scientists and parrots them. Clearly he is unable to form a cogent thought on his own. Michael Mann being one of them and he predicted thirty+ named storms. BTW science is not a democracy.

 

“No amount of climate scientists can ever prove me right; a single observation can prove me wrong". This quote reflects the idea that a single experiment can disprove a theory, but no amount of success can prove it right.”

To paraphrase AE

Edited October 11, 2024 by brenthutch

[tkhayes 348]

 

Just now, brenthutch said:

Biden is advised by climate scientists and parrots them. Clearly he is unable to form a cogent thought on his own.

Milton breaks records (wral.com) - your claim of overestimating is patently false.  We accept your apology

[brenthutch 444]

6 minutes ago, tkhayes said:

 

Milton breaks records (wral.com) - your claim of overestimating is patently false.  We accept your apology

Strongest hurricane to hit at the evening of October 9 south of Tampa FL is hardly a record of note. To paraphrase Redskins legend, Joe Riggins, if a record takes more than three words, it’s not worth much.

[tkhayes 348]

7 minutes ago, brenthutch said:

Strongest hurricane to hit at the evening of October 9 south of Tampa FL is hardly a record of note. To paraphrase Redskins legend, Joe Riggins, if a record takes more than three words, it’s not worth much.

So because “your record” was not broken, that negates any other multiple records that were broken?

You do realize that I can hear you right?

We have already posted the absolute overwhelming plethora of data that demonstrates that current trends of weather over the last few decades are at historic levels outside of any singularity that you try to pin it to…

As I posted earlier in this thread… There are 1000 year rain events and there are 10,000-year-old glaciers’s that are melting…

 and there are 10,000 year-old glaciers that are melting…

Explain how a 10,000 year old glacier melts in a normal non-human influenced weather pattern that you claim is cycling every few decades?

oh wait… I’ve just offered you a digression away from the subject of hand.

You have provided nothing to back up any claim that you are trying to make

[jakee 1,489]

4 hours ago, brenthutch said:

Look at what President Biden said would happen vs what actually happened.

Individual hurricanes are incredibly difficult to predict. Milton went from a Cat 5 to a Cat 3 in less than a day before making landfall - but it easily might not have done that. Do you want politicians to prep for disasters based on best case scenarios? 
 

Frankly, it’s incredibly small minded that you’d minimise the suffering of Floridians right now just to make a partisan political dig.

[lippy 918]

4 hours ago, jakee said:

Frankly, it’s incredibly small minded that you’d minimise the suffering of Floridians right now just to make a partisan political dig.

It's also incredibly laughable that Brent ---FUCKING BRENT!!!--- is talking shit about the predictive ability of others....

[kallend 2,026]

1 hour ago, lippy said:

It's also incredibly laughable that Brent ---FUCKING BRENT!!!--- is talking shit about the predictive ability of others....

Brent is simply a troll, and he's sucked many of you in.

[Phil1111 1,149]

59 minutes ago, kallend said:

Brent is simply a troll, and he's sucked many of you in.

Or is he a symptom of the American underbelly of MAGA. Science doesn't matter, facts don't matter, instead the leaders that your tribe has selected tell you what to think.

If trump is elected the department of education will be eliminated. Instead private religious schools will hold sway. trump wants to cut education funding in half. The national hurricane centre is really unnecessary because the government controls the weather. Project 2025 plan calls for demolition of NOAA and National Weather Service 

“Break up NOAA,” the document says, referring to the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration and its six main offices, including the 154-year-old National Weather Service.

“Together, these form a colossal operation that has become one of the main drivers of the climate change alarm industry and, as such, is harmful to future U.S. prosperity,” the document says.

"Donald Trump and conservatives with Project 2025 say the Department of Education is an ineffective bastion of progressivism."... right Brent.?

John, you're an old dinosaur be thankful for the ride you had and the life you lived. Now the new right and hundreds of millions of Brents are taking over. Science is dead. Long live ignorance.

    ^^^^^^JOHN^^^^^^^

Edited October 11, 2024 by Phil1111

[olofscience 480]

13 hours ago, tkhayes said:

So because “your record” was not broken, that negates any other multiple records that were broken?

Brent sets the goalpost, then moves it when it turns out that he's wrong (again), then declares victory and pats himself on the back.

He'll even keep doing that to an empty room, like how Trump waves to nonexistent audiences.

[SkyDekker 1,465]

15 hours ago, brenthutch said:

Biden is advised by climate scientists and parrots them.

I'll take that over parroting to inject bleach.

[billvon 2,990]

On 10/11/2024 at 6:05 AM, Phil1111 said:

“Together, these form a colossal operation that has become one of the main drivers of the climate change alarm industry and, as such, is harmful to future U.S. prosperity,” the document says.

 

[billvon 2,990]

On 9/3/2024 at 7:26 AM, brenthutch said:

And they predicted a very active season in the Atlantic. It would seem the science is far from settled.

NOAA predicted an active season; between 17 and 24 named storms.  We just hit #17, with three weeks to go in the season.

Sounds like more evidence that this particular branch of science is fairly settled.

[JoeWeber 2,720]

On 10/10/2024 at 7:06 PM, brenthutch said:

Strongest hurricane to hit at the evening of October 9 south of Tampa FL is hardly a record of note. To paraphrase Redskins legend, Joe Riggins, if a record takes more than three words, it’s not worth much.

Might be you could use your skills in another scientific domain that would compliment your expertise in climate science and economics. Virginia Tech’s College of Agriculture and Life Sciences is working to make language sense out of cow moo's. Surely there's a Phd to add to your MBA there. 

[brenthutch 444]

9 hours ago, billvon said:

NOAA predicted an active season; between 17 and 24 named storms.  We just hit #17, with three weeks to go in the season.

Sounds like more evidence that this particular branch of science is fairly settled.

So we just hit the low end of a very wide window predicted by the weather guys and far below the 30+ predicted by M. Mann and company (the climate crisis guys)

[billvon 2,990]

7 hours ago, brenthutch said:

So we just hit the low end of a very wide window predicted by the weather guys and far below the 30+ predicted by M. Mann and company (the climate crisis guys)

We hit the predicted range from NOAA, an organization that is stating very plainly that the climate change crisis is here and is negatively affecting Americans.

Sounds like the science is pretty settled.

[kallend 2,026]

1 minute ago, billvon said:

We hit the predicted range from NOAA, an organization that is stating very plainly that the climate change crisis is here and is negatively affecting Americans.

Sounds like the science is pretty settled.

Isn't it officially a hoax again, as of this morning.

[brenthutch 444]

29 minutes ago, billvon said:

We hit the predicted range from NOAA, an organization that is stating very plainly that the climate change crisis is here and is negatively affecting Americans.

Sounds like the science is pretty settled.

So why did hurricane season fall within historical ranges?  Al Gore told us we would have more hurricanes not the same amount.

[SkyDekker 1,465]

40 minutes ago, brenthutch said:

So why did hurricane season fall within historical ranges?  Al Gore told us we would have more hurricanes not the same amount.

You keep saying that, thinking you have a point.

But just scroll down the following and even without math and percentages you should be able to pick up on a trend........

 

From https://www.stormfax.com/huryear.htm

 

Year	Named Storms	Hurricanes	Major Hurricanes
1851	6	3	1
1852	5	5	1
1853	8	4	2
1854	5	3	1
1855	5	4	1
1856	6	4	2
1857	4	3	0
1858	6	6	0
1859	8	7	1
1860	7	6	1
1861	8	6	0
1862	6	3	0
1863	9	5	0
1864	5	3	0
1865	7	3	0
1866	7	6	1
1867	9	7	1
1868	4	3	0
1869	10	7	1
1870	11	10	2
1871	8	6	2
1872	5	4	0
1873	5	3	2
1874	7	4	0
1875	6	5	1
1876	5	4	2
1877	8	3	1
1878	12	10	2
1879	8	6	2
1880	11	9	2
1881	7	4	0
1882	6	4	2
1883	4	3	2
1884	4	4	1
1885	8	6	0
1886	12	10	4
1887	19	11	2
1888	9	6	2
1889	9	6	0
1890	4	2	1
1891	10	7	1
1892	9	5	0
1893	12	10	5
1894	7	5	4
1895	6	2	0
1896	7	6	2
1897	6	3	0
1898	11	5	1
1899	10	5	2
1900	7	3	2
1901	13	6	0
1902	5	3	0
1903	10	7	1
1904	6	4	0
1905	5	1	1
1906	11	6	3
1907	5	0	0
1908	10	6	1
1909	12	6	4
1910	5	3	1
1911	6	3	0
1912	7	4	1
1913	6	4	0
1914	1	0	0
1915	6	5	3
1916	15	10	5
1917	4	2	2
1918	6	4	1
1919	5	2	1
1920	5	4	0
1921	7	5	2
1922	5	3	1
1923	9	4	1
1924	11	5	2
1925	4	1	0
1926	11	8	6
1927	8	4	1
1928	6	4	1
1929	5	3	1
1930	3	2	2
1931	13	3	1
1932	15	6	4
1933	20	11	6
1934	13	7	1
1935	8	5	3
1936	17	7	1
1937	11	4	1
1938	9	4	2
1939	6	3	1
1940	9	6	0
1941	6	4	3
1942	11	4	1
1943	10	5	2
1944	14	8	3
1945	11	5	2
1946	6	3	1
1947	9	5	2
1948	9	6	4
1949	13	7	3
1950	13	11	8
1951	10	8	5
1952	7	6	3
1953	14	6	4
1954	11	8	2
1955	12	9	6
1956	8	4	2
1957	8	3	2
1958	10	7	5
1959	11	7	2
1960	7	4	2
1961	11	8	7
1962	5	3	1
1963	9	7	2
1964	12	6	6
1965	6	4	1
1966	11	7	3
1967	8	6	1
1968	8	4	0
1969	18	12	5
1970	10	5	2
1971	13	6	1
1972	7	3	0
1973	8	4	1
1974	11	4	2
1975	9	6	3
1976	10	6	2
1977	6	5	1
1978	12	5	2
1979	9	5	2
1980	11	9	2
1981	12	7	3
1982	6	2	1
1983	4	3	1
1984	13	5	1
1985	11	7	3
1986	6	4	0
1987	7	3	1
1988	12	5	3
1989	11	7	2
1990	14	8	1
1991	8	4	2
1992	7	4	1
1993	8	4	1
1994	7	3	0
1995	19	11	5
1996	13	9	6
1997	8	3	1
1998	14	10	3
1999	12	8	5
2000	15	8	3
2001	15	9	4
2002	12	4	2
2003	16	7	3
2004	15	9	6
2005	28	15	7
2006	10	5	2
2007	15	6	2
2008	16	8	5
2009	9	3	2
2010	19	12	5
2011	19	7	4
2012	19	10	2
2013	14	2	0
2014	8	6	2
2015	11	4	2
2016	15	7	4
2017	17	10	6
2018	15	8	2
2019	18	6	3
2020	30	14	7
2021	21	7	4
2022	14	8	2
2023	20	7	3
Average 1991-2020	14	7	3

[brenthutch 444]

Funny how the number of storms increased after the satellite era

[SkyDekker 1,465]

57 minutes ago, brenthutch said:

Funny how the number of storms increased after the satellite era

yeah, I noticed the numbers started increasing after Pearl Harbor too.

[billvon 2,990]

5 minutes ago, SkyDekker said:

yeah, I noticed the numbers started increasing after Pearl Harbor too.

And after Sept 11th.  It's the MUSLIMS!

[kallend 2,026]

Tropical storm Sara, which formed yesterday afternoon near the Honduras-Nicaragua border, is the 18th named storm of the 2024 Atlantic hurricane season and the third this month.

[Phil1111 1,149]

Perhaps with another 4 degrees in global warming we can put the hurricane seasons to rest. Because there would be hurricanes all year long.