Slowest start to Atlantic hurricane season…

[JoeWeber 2,810]

13 hours ago, billvon said:

people are seeing the results of that climate change firsthand.

What they need to see is the folly of moving onto sea level, reclaimed, swamp land in a hurricane zone and expecting daddy to come save them---again.

[brenthutch 444]

On 6/14/2024 at 10:59 PM, billvon said:

It is worth noting that they currently have a high confidence in climate change increasing the amount of rain in precipitation events.  And with much of south Florida underwater again only a year after the last precipitation disaster, people are seeing the results of that climate change firsthand.

High confidence in rain but no observed increase in flooding. 

[normiss 848]

Beryl is now the earliest Category 4 hurricane on record in the Atlantic Ocean and the only Category 4 storm ever recorded in the month of June.

 

 

[billvon 3,064]

11 minutes ago, normiss said:

Beryl is now the earliest Category 4 hurricane on record in the Atlantic Ocean and the only Category 4 storm ever recorded in the month of June.

 

 

Fastest start to a high intensity Atlantic storm season ever.

[JoeWeber 2,810]

Just now, billvon said:

Fastest start to a high intensity Atlantic storm season ever.

And a very southerly track. Most boat insurance requires 12 degrees or less. Usually that means Grenada is good. Maybe no more after Beryl 

[kallend 2,106]

11 hours ago, JoeWeber said:

And a very southerly track. Most boat insurance requires 12 degrees or less. Usually that means Grenada is good. Maybe no more after Beryl 

Care to explain what that means, to a non boat-owner?

[JoeWeber 2,810]

Just now, kallend said:

Care to explain what that means, to a non boat-owner?

Insurers usually have a hurricane box where no coverage for named storms exist. In the Caribbean it's usually between 29 and 12 degrees latitude +/- a fraction during Hurricane season. So for standard policies that's between Southern Georgia and the Grenadines, generally. You can pay up for coverage in the box and some do, especially charter companies. Consequently, a lot of boats are stored in Grenada in yards or marinas. I think Ivan was the last one to hit Grenada. 

[kallend 2,106]

Beryl is now the earliest Category 5 hurricane on record.  Appears headed for Jamaica.

[Phil1111 1,149]

Unfortunately with two wars going on and a famine in Africa. There will be fewer donations available to rebuild these small Caribbean island nations. Small tourist hotels which is a large part of the income and jobs market will be hard hit. The residents left with few resources to rebuild.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7ce0TUdiGc  Hurricane Beryl Landfall Carriacou

[tkhayes 348]

On 6/16/2024 at 10:21 PM, brenthutch said:

High confidence in rain but no observed increase in flooding. 

cherry picking again.  weather events in Florida are on the rise.... but of course, you found a tidbit about flooding so 'therefore anything and everything claimed about climate change must be false'

https://www.ncei.noaa.gov/access/billions/state-summary/FL

[billvon 3,064]

On 6/12/2024 at 9:30 AM, brenthutch said:

In more than a decade, confounding the experts who predicted we could see our first named storm as early as May.

So once again you posted a gloat to "own the libs" and it ended up backfiring, with a cat-5 that has shattered previous records in terms of how early in the season it came.  (Broke the record by more than two weeks.)  And it happened because sea surface temperatures are also at record highs, which is of course driven by climate change.  

https://bmcnoldy.earth.miami.edu/tropics/ohc/

So the thread that you started to try to deny the effects of climate change - ended up being a very good example of how fast the climate is changing.

There's a lesson here that I am sure you won't learn.

[brenthutch 444]

3 hours ago, billvon said:

So once again you posted a gloat to "own the libs" and it ended up backfiring, with a cat-5 that has shattered previous records in terms of how early in the season it came.  (Broke the record by more than two weeks.)  And it happened because sea surface temperatures are also at record highs, which is of course driven by climate change.  

 

Wrong, watch the video 

https://climatechangedispatch.com/as-hurricane-beryl-swirls-media-push-climate-fueled-nonsense/

[lippy 918]

4 hours ago, brenthutch said:

Wrong, watch the video 

https://climatechangedispatch.com/as-hurricane-beryl-swirls-media-push-climate-fueled-nonsense/

BREAKING NEWS!!!!!! Climate change denial website posts video denying the effects of climate change!

[brenthutch 444]

1 hour ago, lippy said:

BREAKING NEWS!!!!!! Climate change denial website posts video denying the effects of climate change!

What part of the video was wrong?  

[lippy 918]

57 minutes ago, brenthutch said:

What part of the video was wrong?  

I think it all started to go downhill once the first nipple appeared

[billvon 3,064]

7 hours ago, brenthutch said:

Wrong, watch the video 

https://climatechangedispatch.com/as-hurricane-beryl-swirls-media-push-climate-fueled-nonsense/

Thank you for demonstrating what I was talking about above.

[kallend 2,106]

7 hours ago, lippy said:

I think it all started to go downhill once the first nipple appeared

He's on my ignore list.  Did I miss something?  

[olofscience 489]

8 hours ago, brenthutch said:

What part of the video was wrong?  

Burden of proof is on you to prove what the video says is right, not the other way around.

Also, just say what the video is saying because nobody's gonna watch that.

[tkhayes 348]

10 hours ago, brenthutch said:

What part of the video was wrong?  

Your video narrator acknowledged that warmer sea temperatures are fuel for hurricanes and that the oceans are warmer than ever.   and connected that to the current hurricane.  He tried to make like of a current spike in ocean temperature.  You know, cherry picking like you do in an attempt to discredit all climate science with an opinion based on a tidbit.

If that is a denial video, he is doing a pretty shitty job of it.

[tkhayes 348]

4 minutes ago, tkhayes said:

Your video narrator acknowledged that warmer sea temperatures are fuel for hurricanes and that the oceans are warmer than ever.   and connected that to the current hurricane.  He tried to make like of a current spike in ocean temperature.  You know, cherry picking like you do in an attempt to discredit all climate science with an opinion based on a tidbit.

If that is a denial video, he is doing a pretty shitty job of it.

Statewide Temperature Extremes – Chris Martz (chrismartzweather.com) - Chris Martz makes no claim to have any knowledge, background or expertise in climate science.  One would think if you are going to host a web page to deny climate change, you would post your own relevant credentials, if you had any.  He has as much knowledge about climate science as Tucker Carlson and Hannity have about journalism.....

[normiss 848]

3 hours ago, kallend said:

He's on my ignore list.  Did I miss something?  

I like nipples too.

Damn you temptation.

[BIGUN 1,399]

14 hours ago, lippy said:

BREAKING NEWS!!!!!! Climate change denial website posts video denying the effects of climate change!

Yeah, no bias there. That was my take on it also. I made the mistake of watching the first three minutes.  

[kallend 2,106]

Beryl jumped from a Category 1 to a Category 4 hurricane in under 10 hours. That marked the fastest intensification ever recorded before September.

[billvon 3,064]

As of this morning, Beryl will hit Jamaica as a Cat 4 and Belize as a Cat 2 - and it looks likely to hit Texas (around Brownsville) as a Cat 1 or close to it.

[JoeWeber 2,810]

Just now, kallend said:

Beryl jumped from a Category 1 to a Category 4 hurricane in under 10 hours. That marked the fastest intensification ever recorded before September.

Should've nuked it.