Who will replace Biden?

[Phil1111 1,149]

1 hour ago, brenthutch said:

Looks like Biden is staying and in a fighting mood. He was feisty on Morning Joe this AM. Confused, nonsensical and unable to form a cogent sentence but still very feisty 

So akin to yourself then?

[JerryBaumchen 1,422]

5 minutes ago, billvon said:

Well, he is; he's just not an MD.  

Hi Bill,

And, so is a faith healer.

Jerry Baumchen

[BIGUN 1,395]

38 minutes ago, JoeWeber said:

Between the two Biden is the clear choice.  In the voting booth it’s a no brainer. 

Yet, your own posts for the past few days lay considerable doubt. Course, I understand to certain extent. The left would vote for a potato on a stick to vote against Trump. Which makes my point. Mr. Potato head fans will vote against Mr. Shit Head and vice versa. I rest my case. 

[billvon 3,058]

15 minutes ago, JerryBaumchen said:

And, so is a faith healer.

I'd disagree.

Chiropractor - phlebotomist - phyiscal therapist - nurse - physician's assistant - psychologist - pharmacist - all medical people who have medical roles to play in healthcare.  But not doctors.

Insurance adjuster - hospital admin - hospital security guard - non-medical people who work in the healthcare industry.

Faith healer - non-medical person who doesn't work in the healthcare industry.

[BIGUN 1,395]

10 minutes ago, billvon said:

Chiropractor - phlebotomist - phyiscal therapist - nurse - physician's assistant - psychologist - pharmacist - all medical people who have medical roles to play in healthcare.  But not doctors.

Except only one uses the term Doctor. I get where Jerry's coming from. Not long ago; Chiropractors went off the rails with claims of curing cancer, using homeopathic & naturopathic remedies and making "faith healer" type promises.  

[headoverheels 333]

16 minutes ago, BIGUN said:

The left would vote for a potato on a stick to vote against Trump. Which makes my point. Mr. Potato head fans will vote against Mr. Shit Head and vice versa. I rest my case. 

This was 2004, but it could be 2024.

 

[JerryBaumchen 1,422]

6 minutes ago, BIGUN said:

Except only one uses the term Doctor. I get where Jerry's coming from. Not long ago; Chiropractors went off the rails with claims of curing cancer, using homeopathic & naturopathic remedies and making "faith healer" type promises.  

Hi Keith,

This reply to you is only because you are a veteran.

I worked in three different Air Force hospitals during my 4-yr hitch.  Not one had a chiropractor on staff.  Every doctor, and I mean EVERY, always said that a chiropractor was a nothing more than a charlatan.

Jerry Baumchen

[JerryBaumchen 1,422]

Hi folks,

This is very interesting:  [White House]  visitor logs showed a neurologist specializing in Parkinson’s disease was at the White House eight times over an eight month period

White House spars with reporters over Joe Biden's health (thehill.com)

Joe can wish it away; but, it is not going to happen.

Jerry Baumchen

[gowlerk 2,245]

1 hour ago, billvon said:

Well, he is; he's just not an MD.  

Disagree. Strongly. 

[JerryBaumchen 1,422]

1 hour ago, billvon said:

I'd disagree.

Chiropractor - phlebotomist - phyiscal therapist - nurse - physician's assistant - psychologist - pharmacist - all medical people who have medical roles to play in healthcare.  But not doctors.

Insurance adjuster - hospital admin - hospital security guard - non-medical people who work in the healthcare industry.

Faith healer - non-medical person who doesn't work in the healthcare industry.

Hi Bill,

My medical provider is Kaiser-Permanente NW.  I am very sure that they employe everyone on your list except for chiropractor.

How about your medical provider?

Jerry Baumchen

[JoeWeber 2,810]

Just now, BIGUN said:

Yet, your own posts for the past few days lay considerable doubt. Course, I understand to certain extent. The left would vote for a potato on a stick to vote against Trump. Which makes my point. Mr. Potato head fans will vote against Mr. Shit Head and vice versa. I rest my case. 

If that were my case I'd rest it, too. Please show where I indicated that I wouldn't vote for a potato on a stick over Trump. And that would be for. Elections between two candidates one doesn't like much are normal worldwide. Unlike you, and that's according to you, I'm not one to avoid the putrid nastiness of that reality by just not voting while pretending I am also performing my civic responsibility like those who do. Yes Biden is awful and getting awfuller but if he is on the ticket he'll get my vote. 

[SCS422 30]

4 hours ago, SkyDekker said:

Family that lives together. Family with two moms or family with two dads. Very successful single parents as well.

 

This idea that a Christian, married couple with children is the only way a society can be built is....well religious crap.

 

4 hours ago, SkyDekker said:

Family that lives together. Family with two moms or family with two dads. Very successful single parents as well.

 

This idea that a Christian, married couple with children is the only way a society can be built is....well religious crap.

That statement is either ignorant or stupid, explain to me how a society can be built with a two mom or dad family (if you wish to call it that)

[johnhking1 97]

3 hours ago, brenthutch said:

Looks like Biden is staying and in a fighting mood. He was feisty on Morning Joe this AM. Confused, nonsensical and unable to form a cogent sentence but still very feisty 

The President doth protest too much, methinks"

[johnhking1 97]

1 hour ago, JerryBaumchen said:

Hi folks,

This is very interesting:  [White House]  visitor logs showed a neurologist specializing in Parkinson’s disease was at the White House eight times over an eight month period

White House spars with reporters over Joe Biden's health (thehill.com)

Joe can wish it away; but, it is not going to happen.

Jerry Baumchen

I wish one of the reporters at the Whitehouse briefing would ask Karine Jean-Pierre if she has sent out any resumes.

[brenthutch 444]

7 minutes ago, johnhking1 said:

I wish one of the reporters at the Whitehouse briefing would ask Karine Jean-Pierre if she has sent out any resumes.

She,like VP Harris,is a DEI hire and can not be fired .

[johnhking1 97]

5 minutes ago, brenthutch said:

She,like VP Harris,is a DEI hire and can not be fired .

I am not saying she should be fired but may be out of a job come November.

[JoeWeber 2,810]

Just now, brenthutch said:

She,like VP Harris,is a DEI hire and can not be fired .

Wasn't Mary, of William and Mary where your kid wants to go, a DEI hire in her day?

[JerryBaumchen 1,422]

1 hour ago, JoeWeber said:

If that were my case I'd rest it, too. Please show where I indicated that I wouldn't vote for a potato on a stick over Trump. And that would be for. Elections between two candidates one doesn't like much are normal worldwide. Unlike you, and that's according to you, I'm not one to avoid the putrid nastiness of that reality by just not voting while pretending I am also performing my civic responsibility like those who do. Yes Biden is awful and getting awfuller but if he is on the ticket he'll get my vote. 

Hi Joe,

That is what I have posted before.

However, the truth is that our votes [ yours & mine ] simply do not count much at all.

Oregon is a solid blue state; Oregon would give Biden it's electoral votes even if you & I did not vote.

It is those 'undecided' in the toss-up states that will determine this election.

I don't like it; but, it is what it is.

Jerry Baumchen

[JoeWeber 2,810]

Just now, JerryBaumchen said:

Hi Joe,

That is what I have posted before.

However, the truth is that our votes [ yours & mine ] simply do not count much at all.

Oregon is a solid blue state; Oregon would give Biden it's electoral votes even if you & I did not vote.

It is those 'undecided' in the toss-up states that will determine this election.

I don't like it; but, it is what it is.

Jerry Baumchen

But we still vote for someone. There is no "against" box to check on the ballot. In my silly opinion using the against argument is just positioning oneself halfway out the door to not voting. Interestingly, Allen Lichtman, who has a decent track record, is saying Biden will win: https://politicalpulse.net/us-politics/alan-lichtmans-prediction-for-2024/

 

[JerryBaumchen 1,422]

Hi folks,

Biden allies have expressed exasperation about the criticism he is facing

White House fights back against doubts on Biden fitness (bbc.com)

Harry Truman said, 'If you cannot stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.'

Oh, how I wish Harry were in this race.

Jerry Baumchen

[kallend 2,104]

2 hours ago, BIGUN said:

Except only one uses the term Doctor. I get where Jerry's coming from. Not long ago; Chiropractors went off the rails with claims of curing cancer, using homeopathic & naturopathic remedies and making "faith healer" type promises.  

I'm a doctor.

"Doctor" is a title going back to 1213 and is a license to teach, originally authorized by the pope.  The PhD dates back to 1652.  

Sometime in the 19th Century medical people (mostly barbers and quacks in the USA in those days) did a pretty good job of appropriating the title to describe their occupation.

In, for example, the UK, the more advanced physicians and surgeons (FRCS, FRCP) generally return to the old ways and do not call themselves "doctor" unless they actually have a genuine research degree.

[billvon 3,058]

2 hours ago, gowlerk said:

Disagree. Strongly. 

OK.  

To be clear, I think chiropractors are NOT quacks and can provide real relief to people.  But so can acupuncturists and herbalists, neither of which are medical doctors either.

[gowlerk 2,245]

Just now, billvon said:

OK.  

To be clear, I think chiropractors are NOT quacks and can provide real relief to people.  But so can acupuncturists and herbalists, neither of which are medical doctors either.

Their business model is to develop you into a client who depends on them and schedules regular treatments. Preferably for life. A qualified physiotherapist gives you a treatment plan designed to help you move along. The ones I know personally are also antivaxxers and see real doctors and medical practitioners as enemies.

[billvon 3,058]

8 minutes ago, gowlerk said:

Their business model is to develop you into a client who depends on them and schedules regular treatments.

For some that's true.  I have used two so far who were not like that, and who helped with whatever problem I was having.

[brenthutch 444]

1 hour ago, JoeWeber said:

Wasn't Mary, of William and Mary where your kid wants to go, a DEI hire in her day?

It was on her list. As an upcoming junior she is required to tour prospective schools as part of her curriculum. Now that you mention it, there was no talk of either William or Mary. Lots of discussion about the founding father alumni though.