Who will replace Biden?

[brenthutch 444]

4 minutes ago, wolfriverjoe said:

Just about all of them are going to vote for Trump.

And that is the problem. The destiny of the republic will be determined by a bunch of knuckle dragging mouth breathers. (On both sides)

The Obama supporters on one side will be canceled out by the Ben Shapiro followers on the other side, leaving the uninformed to fill the gap. It is unfortunate yet it is where we find ourselves.

Edited July 12, 2024 by brenthutch

[JoeWeber 2,720]

Just now, brenthutch said:

I believe that quote was attributed to Chuck Yeager 

He died in bed, right? So it was just talk that he never put to the test by dying in a crash. Certainly he had his share of crazy shit happen, so he must have kept flying the airplane. Clearly this is at best an area of metaphorical expertise for you.

[Phil1111 1,149]

3 minutes ago, wolfriverjoe said:

Just about all of them are going to vote for Trump.

Isn't that the definition of the Trump voter? Even Brent recognizes them for what they are.

[Phil1111 1,149]

4 minutes ago, brenthutch said:

And that is the problem. The destiny of the republic will be determined by a bunch of knuckle dragging mouth breathers. (On both sides)

Wrong. Trump has the gun, the religious, those who believe the state should occupy no more than perhaps 10% of the economy and the ignorant isolationists. Read the 2025 guidebook.

Edited July 12, 2024 by Phil1111

[wolfriverjoe 1,523]

3 minutes ago, Phil1111 said:

Isn't that the definition of the Trump voter? Even Brent recognizes them for what they are.

Pretty much.

They hate who he says he hates.
They want him to be a dictator so that he can do what he wants.

They're just too stupid to understand that a despot doesn't care who he hurts.
And too dumb to remember that.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/1/8/18173678/trump-shutdown-voter-florida

From the link:

"He's not hurting the people he needs to be hurting".

[normiss 798]

12 minutes ago, Phil1111 said:

Agree guaranteed Trump wouldn't have known how many miles of border Finland shares with Russia. Trump would have had no specifics about anything. Biden's answers were intelligent and well conceived.

As are many democrats and those who understand the issues. Unfortunately I have to agree with:

The low information voter is another name for the ignorant voter. There is just not enough margin for error to risk a Trump win. IMO Biden should step down. Too many Americans don't understand what the 2025 plan is about. Too many are busy trying to make tight budgets stretch and falsely believe Trump will improve it.

I think it's too late to swap candidates.

It would create a sickening mess at the very least.

Amazing how ignorant America has become. When did we stop teaching world history?

[wolfriverjoe 1,523]

3 minutes ago, normiss said:

I think it's too late to swap candidates.

It would create a sickening mess at the very least.

Amazing how ignorant America has become. When did we stop teaching world history?

Pfft.

We've NEVER taught accurate history. Either world or US.

Edit to add:

At least not at levels below University.

Edited July 12, 2024 by wolfriverjoe

[headoverheels 333]

3 minutes ago, normiss said:

I think it's too late to swap candidates.

It would create a sickening mess at the very least.

Amazing how ignorant America has become. When did we stop teaching world history?

6th grade.

 

[brenthutch 444]

6 minutes ago, normiss said:

I think it's too late to swap candidates.

It would create a sickening mess at the very least.

Amazing how ignorant America has become. When did we stop teaching world history?

About the same time we stopped doing the pledge of allegiance.

[JerryBaumchen 1,362]

2 minutes ago, normiss said:

I think it's too late to swap candidates.

It would create a sickening mess at the very least.

Amazing how ignorant America has become. When did we stop teaching world history?

Hi Mark,

That is a fair argument.  On the converse, I simply do not believe that Biden can beat Trump.

That leaves the only option of replacing him.

If you take the debate, the Geo S interview & tonite's presser, he is looking old.  I think it is only going to get worse for Biden.

As I have posted before; I like Joe Biden, I think he is a decent person.

My one & only reason for wanting to replace Joe Biden is to defeat Trump in Nov.  

As for supporting Biden:  I've been sending him $500/month for the last 5 months.  No more, it is money wasted.  If there is someone else on the ticket, I'll start sending money.

Jerry Baumchen

[normiss 798]

58 minutes ago, JerryBaumchen said:

Hi Mark,

That is a fair argument.  On the converse, I simply do not believe that Biden can beat Trump.

That leaves the only option of replacing him.

If you take the debate, the Geo S interview & tonite's presser, he is looking old.  I think it is only going to get worse for Biden.

As I have posted before; I like Joe Biden, I think he is a decent person.

My one & only reason for wanting to replace Joe Biden is to defeat Trump in Nov.  

As for supporting Biden:  I've been sending him $500/month for the last 5 months.  No more, it is money wasted.  If there is someone else on the ticket, I'll start sending money.

Jerry Baumchen

 

Jerry, this one's tough. I cannot imagine living in the reality of the death of democracy.

At least if someone else takes the ticket, you'll get your money back.

I don't think the world understands what happens if Trump gets in.

My social security is actually rather nice.....while it still exists.

Maybe it is time to visit Oren!

[nigel99 471]

13 minutes ago, normiss said:

 

Jerry, this one's tough. I cannot imagine living in the reality of the death of democracy.

At least if someone else takes the ticket, you'll get your money back.

I don't think the world understands what happens if Trump gets in.

My social security is actually rather nice.....while it still exists.

Maybe it is time to visit Oren!

I don’t think you have a choice but to change him if America is going to recover.

Biden needs to actively support and promote someone. Sadly I don’t think it’s going to happen. 

[JoeWeber 2,720]

Just now, nigel99 said:

I don’t think you have a choice but to change him if America is going to recover.

Biden needs to actively support and promote someone. Sadly I don’t think it’s going to happen. 

Right, so let’s accept reality and get back on his side.

[JoeWeber 2,720]

Just now, JerryBaumchen said:

Hi Mark,

That is a fair argument.  On the converse, I simply do not believe that Biden can beat Trump.

That leaves the only option of replacing him.

If you take the debate, the Geo S interview & tonite's presser, he is looking old.  I think it is only going to get worse for Biden.

As I have posted before; I like Joe Biden, I think he is a decent person.

My one & only reason for wanting to replace Joe Biden is to defeat Trump in Nov.  

As for supporting Biden:  I've been sending him $500/month for the last 5 months.  No more, it is money wasted.  If there is someone else on the ticket, I'll start sending money.

Jerry Baumchen

You have fought the good fight. Now it’s reality time, Biden will be our candidate. So we need to fight for positive coverage of him and negative coverage of Trump. Thus spoke Joe.

[JoeWeber 2,720]

Just now, JerryBaumchen said:

Hi Mark,

That is a fair argument.  On the converse, I simply do not believe that Biden can beat Trump.

That leaves the only option of replacing him.

If you take the debate, the Geo S interview & tonite's presser, he is looking old.  I think it is only going to get worse for Biden.

As I have posted before; I like Joe Biden, I think he is a decent person.

My one & only reason for wanting to replace Joe Biden is to defeat Trump in Nov.  

As for supporting Biden:  I've been sending him $500/month for the last 5 months.  No more, it is money wasted.  If there is someone else on the ticket, I'll start sending money.

Jerry Baumchen

Where is Trump? He’s doing what is smart. You don’t attack an enemy who is attacking themselves. Just saying.

[nigel99 471]

4 hours ago, JoeWeber said:

Right, so let’s accept reality and get back on his side.

That’s such a defeatist attitude. I believe if Biden had strength of character he could back someone and a viable candidate against Trump could be put in place. 

A lot can be done in 100 days. Rather than polls I quite like watching the betting odds as I think it is a more realistic demographic. 3 months ago Trump was the slight favourite, now it’s a landslide in his favour and odds for Kamila are better than those for Biden. 
If the dems put up Biden Trump will win.

[JoeWeber 2,720]

Just now, nigel99 said:

That’s such a defeatist attitude. I believe if Biden had strength of character he could back someone and a viable candidate against Trump could be put in place. 

A lot can be done in 100 days. Rather than polls I quite like watching the betting odds as I think it is a more realistic demographic. 3 months ago Trump was the slight favourite, now it’s a landslide in his favour and odds for Kamila are better than those for Biden. 
If the dems put up Biden Trump will win.

Sounds good to me. So which private island where you park your super yacht all bought with betting winnings from your magic insight are you currently using as a home base? 

[BIGUN 1,307]

7 hours ago, JerryBaumchen said:

If there is someone else on the ticket, I'll start sending money.

Morning, Jerry

How would you feel if Biden replaced VP Harris with Gov. Wes Moore?

Keith 

[wolfriverjoe 1,523]

7 hours ago, normiss said:

 

...I don't think the world understands what happens if Trump gets in...

 

Much of the rest of the world does.

China and Russia are basically salivating about it.

I've read stories that indicate that some of our NATO allies are making preparations for a future without the US. And are starting to reduce what they share with US intelligence.

So yeah, they understand.

It's so many in the US who don't understand.
Or don't care.

[brenthutch 444]

I’m witnessing a case of mass hysterical amnesia. You guys are forgetting that we survived the first Trump presidency and we will survive the second. This talk about “THE END OF DEMOCRACY!!!”  Is just hyperbolic campaign rhetoric, nothing more. Will it be a bit embarrassing? Yes but no more than Biden calling him self a black women or saying Putin is the president of Ukraine. 

Edited July 12, 2024 by brenthutch

[Stumpy 284]

40 minutes ago, brenthutch said:

I’m witnessing a case of mass hysterical amnesia. You guys are forgetting that we survived the first Trump presidency and we will survive the second. This talk about “THE END OF DEMOCRACY!!!”  Is just hyperbolic campaign rhetoric, nothing more. Will it be a bit embarrassing? Yes but no more than Biden calling him self a black women or saying Putin is the president of Ukraine. 

Speaking of people who don't understand....

[wmw999 2,444]

Same as the stock market; past performance doesn’t guarantee future results. Conditions have changed for the country, the court, and both candidates. Thinking differently is stupid 

Wendy P. 

[kallend 2,026]

18 hours ago, JoeWeber said:

Or maybe we get hit by an asteroid, also an outlier event. But now you have me curious, what expertise or insight do you have that allows you to claim the likelihood? Other than the constant chatter about any and everything by anybody with a keyboard or microphone I've heard nothing serious.

It was in the New York Post, so it must be true.

[brenthutch 444]

19 minutes ago, wmw999 said:

Same as the stock market; past performance doesn’t guarantee future results. Conditions have changed for the country, the court, and both candidates. Thinking differently is stupid 

Wendy P. 

Elaborate

i know that the southern border is out of control, inflation has outpaced wages, interest rates have priced millions out of home ownership but I’m sure that’s not what you meant.

Edited July 12, 2024 by brenthutch

[kallend 2,026]

10 hours ago, normiss said:

 

Amazing how ignorant America has become. When did we stop teaching world history?

Sometime after we stopped teachng physics.