Who will replace Biden?

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37 minutes ago, brenthutch said:

If only the popular vote mattered. Getting millions of extra votes in California and New York, doesn’t make up for losing by a few thousand in Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin. End result? President Trump. Consider yourself gotten.

Yeah, if only the corollary for “one person, one vote” weren’t “but some votes matter more than others.”

Wendy P. 

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On 6/28/2024 at 11:58 AM, CygnusX-1 said:

I'm hoping that the DNC will not survive this debate. They were the ones who picked that lame ass person by not allowing for a proper primary.

I'm hoping that the GOP will not survive this election. They were the ones who picked that lame ass person by not allowing for a proper primary.

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6 hours ago, billeisele said:

There's plenty of time for something to happen in the Democratic party yet there may not be enough time to sort through the details and present a slate that can win. I'm sure that the strategists and Democrat leads have all kinds of lists and flow charts doing the what if game. Seems that they will still have to convince Joe to step aside or maybe he knows he's done and has known that for some time, and he's been told to stay in until they can figure it out. Who knows what's really happening.

The Republican convention is in mid-July. Trump will have 30 days of campaigning and poll results prior to the Democratic convention in Mid-August to gain a bigger lead. His biggest decision is the VP choice. Haley would be a great choice. I doubt he would offer it or that she would take it. Crazier things have happened, like Joe and Kamala making up after the things they said about each other. It's politics, anything can happen.

Hi Bill,

This is no surprise to me:  Biden meets family at Camp David as calls to exit the race grow (msn.com)

My son gives Biden until next weekend.  I'm thinking before the 4th.

It's too bad as I really like Joe as a person.

Even a favorite pet has to be put down eventually.

Jerry Baumchen

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34 minutes ago, tkhayes said:

 On 6/28/2024 at 10:58 AM, CygnusX-1 said:

I'm hoping that the DNC will not survive this debate. They were the ones who picked that lame ass person by not allowing for a proper primary.

THEN TK said

I'm hoping that the GOP will not survive this election. They were the ones who picked that lame ass person by not allowing for a proper primary.

  I'm hoping the primary system doesn't survive this election cycle.

I think we got better candidates back in the days of the "smoke filled rooms".

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19 minutes ago, JerryBaumchen said:

Hi Bill,

This is no surprise to me:  Biden meets family at Camp David as calls to exit the race grow (msn.com)

My son gives Biden until next weekend.  I'm thinking before the 4th.

It's too bad as I really like Joe as a person.

Even a favorite pet has to be put down eventually.

Jerry Baumchen

he leaves now and goes down in history as a great president.  Any number of other candidates are capable of beating Trump.

Or he stays in the race and likely comes out as a failed dementia ex-president who could not keep up (or he loses to Trump and all we talk about for the next 50 years is 'that time we coulda got him out')

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Just now, tkhayes said:

he leaves now and goes down in history as a great president.  Any number of other candidates are capable of beating Trump.

Or he stays in the race and likely comes out as a failed dementia ex-president who could not keep up (or he loses to Trump and all we talk about for the next 50 years is 'that time we coulda got him out')

Great. What to do about Kamala?

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1 minute ago, JoeWeber said:

Great. What to do about Kamala?

Hi Joe,

As I have posted before:  She could not win an election for turd catcher.

Her days in the limelight are over.

Maybe she can get appointed Water Commissioner somewhere.

Jerry Baumchen

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Just now, JerryBaumchen said:

Hi Joe,

As I have posted before:  She could not win an election for turd catcher.

Her days in the limelight are over.

Maybe she can get appointed Water Commissioner somewhere.

Jerry Baumchen

But how do you get her to go away quietly?

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1 minute ago, JoeWeber said:

But how do you get her to go away quietly?

Hi Joe,

Just pay no attention to her; she will get the message.

Or, which is the thing that will probably happen, is that no one in the DNC will listen to her.

Jerry Baumchen

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25 minutes ago, tkhayes said:

he leaves now and goes down in history as a great president.  Any number of other candidates are capable of beating Trump.

Or he stays in the race and likely comes out as a failed dementia ex-president who could not keep up (or he loses to Trump and all we talk about for the next 50 years is 'that time we coulda got him out')

Hi tk,

Thank You. 

When Joe Biden starting speaking at the debate, it took me about 1-2 minutes to conclude that he was toast.

Oh, and that cold he had; interestingly how it suddenly cleared up on Friday in Charlotte.

Jerry Baumchen

PS)  OK, who's up next?

PPS)  Looks like he might become the Grand Old Man of the DNC:  Jamie Raskin: DNC needs Biden to play vital role at convention (thehill.com)

 

Edited June 30, 2024 by JerryBaumchen

[JoeWeber 2,808]

Just now, JerryBaumchen said:

Hi Joe,

Just pay no attention to her; she will get the message.

Or, which is the thing that will probably happen, is that no one in the DNC will listen to her.

Jerry Baumchen

She is the Vice President. She has the taste in her mouth. She knows it would be now or never. I don't think just not inviting her to lunch will work. Not to mention just ignoring her might piss off a couple of constituencies who possess 70% of the votes in America; all some would need to do is just not vote. She will need to be brought on board best I can see.

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2 minutes ago, JoeWeber said:

She is the Vice President. She has the taste in her mouth. She knows it would be now or never. I don't think just not inviting her to lunch will work. Not to mention just ignoring her might piss off a couple of constituencies who possess 70% of the votes in America; all some would need to do is just not vote. She will need to be brought on board best I can see.

Hi Joe,

IMO she is one member of the Democratic Party that cannot beat Trump.  Not a snowball's chance in hell.

Forget all the niceties; focus on who can beat Trump in Nov.

The job of POTUS is the most important job in the world.  Does this nation [ and the world ] want to Trump to get it again?

Jerry Baumchen

PS)  One more paper taking a stand:  Atlanta Journal-Constitution editorial board calls for Biden to exit presidential race (thehill.com)

It is NOT going to go away.

[normiss 843]

Philadelphia Enquirer sees it differently.

"Trump is an unserious carnival barker running for the most serious job in the world. During his last term, Trump served himself and not the American people."

 

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1 minute ago, normiss said:

Philadelphia Enquirer sees it differently.

"Trump is an unserious carnival barker running for the most serious job in the world. During his last term, Trump served himself and not the American people."

 

Hi Mark,

That carnival barker only wants that last $5 you have in your wallet.  Trump is far, far more dangerous.

Jerry Baumchen

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On 6/29/2024 at 6:13 AM, BIGUN said:

Morning, Jerry.

From a strategic perspective; I can't help but  wonder ff Newsome, Whitmer would be perceived as more polarizing and push more R's to vote against them. For me; I would again not vote for either. Suggested, Wes Moore as someone I would vote for, a somewhat moderate, but no discussion. Am I missing something about him?

Hi Keith,

Please excuse me for taking so long to respond.

As I see it, people simply do not know who Wes Moore is.

IMO, it is too late in the game for someone who is not a national figure.

Jerry Baumchen

[johnhking1 97]

I don't know how they are going to convince Biden to drop out or how they are going to force him out.  Considering his performance at the debate, he has almost 7 months left in his term.  What will he be like then.  If I were to make a bet, I would bet he is on the ballot in November.

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3 minutes ago, johnhking1 said:

I don't know how they are going to convince Biden to drop out or how they are going to force him out.  Considering his performance at the debate, he has almost 7 months left in his term.  What will he be like then.  If I were to make a bet, I would bet he is on the ballot in November.

Hi John

Some time back, tk hayes said he would bet $500 [ I think that was the amount ] that Biden would beat Trump in Nov.

See Post #55 above.

Jerry Baumchen

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29 minutes ago, JerryBaumchen said:

Please excuse me for taking so long to respond.

As I see it, people simply do not know who Wes Moore is.

IMO, it is too late in the game for someone who is not a national figure.

Afternoon, Jerry

No worries. You're probably right, but I didn't know who Obama was either till late in the game. 

Keith

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Just now, JerryBaumchen said:

Hi Joe,

IMO she is one member of the Democratic Party that cannot beat Trump.  Not a snowball's chance in hell.

Forget all the niceties; focus on who can beat Trump in Nov.

The job of POTUS is the most important job in the world.  Does this nation [ and the world ] want to Trump to get it again?

Jerry Baumchen

PS)  One more paper taking a stand:  Atlanta Journal-Constitution editorial board calls for Biden to exit presidential race (thehill.com)

It is NOT going to go away.

Jerry, again, we agree. But how do you her to go easily? Maybe I am unaware of some super secret get out of the Vice Presidents chair card or some other non-shitshow procedure but if she resists how do you get her gone?

[JoeWeber 2,808]

This sort of polling won't encourage him to go. Strangely enough it's sort of a positive referendum on Harris for President eventually. Biden should have decided on one term. Power and selfishness, same as ever.

 

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1 hour ago, JoeWeber said:

But how do you get her to go away quietly?

Nothing in the rules says she automatically gets the ticket

 

[normiss 843]

Are we not talking about Project 2025?

Sounds terrifying.

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1 hour ago, tkhayes said:

Nothing in the rules says she automatically gets the ticket

 

Hi tk,

In the DNC rule book, I think that is in Section 37.b.6.

And, she will not get on the ticket if they want to defeat Trump.

I would think that somewhere in the DNC rulebook, there is what to do when the s*** hits the fan.  Probably under The Nuclear Option.

Jerry Baumchen

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51 minutes ago, normiss said:

Are we not talking about Project 2025?

Sounds terrifying.

Hi Mark,

I was thinking about something similar earlier today.

If Trump wins & gets the Senate, kiss it all goodby.

This is why this election is so important.

Jerry Baumchen

 

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4 hours ago, JoeWeber said:

But how do you get her to go away quietly?

Hi Joe,

I just read this:   Hold two forums for candidates who meet a threshold, do a straw poll and the delegates pick,” Rybak wrote.

He is:  Former Minneapolis Mayor RT Rybak, a former Democratic National Committee vice chair

Biden speculation swirls as White House, allies fight off calls to drop out (thehill.com)

Jerry Baumchen