Who will replace Biden?

[Phil1111 1,149]

  On 7/5/2024 at 1:33 AM, JoeWeber said:

When Obama tells him it's time, probably. 

When big Dem. $$$ donors tell him its time to ride into the sunset.

[JerryBaumchen 1,434]

Hi folks,

I do not need the WSJ to tell me this:  Mr. Biden’s best bet for survival, bizarrely, is to keep warning Democrats that his withdrawal will simply force them to confront other notable mistakes—crowning a barely qualified and unpopular vice president

Opinion | About the Democratic Panic (msn.com)

IMO that is a very poor argument.  IMO she is not the heir apparent; far too many others more qualified.

Jerry Baumchen

[gowlerk 2,249]

  On 7/5/2024 at 3:24 AM, JerryBaumchen said:

IMO that is a very poor argument.  IMO she is not the heir apparent; far too many others more qualified.

Agreed. If Biden were to resign as POTUS she would get the job for the remainder of his term. If he drops out as a contender for the nomination then she is still his VP, but that is all she is. She was his choice and she goes down with him when he drops out.

[ryoder 1,590]

  On 7/5/2024 at 3:30 AM, gowlerk said:

Agreed. If Biden were to resign as POTUS she would get the job for the remainder of his term. If he drops out as a contender for the nomination then she is still his VP, but that is all she is. She was his choice and she goes down with him when he drops out.

But remember that SCOTUS has annointed POTUS as king. So if he abdicates the throne, Hunter is next in the line of succession.

[JoeWeber 2,822]

  On 7/5/2024 at 3:30 AM, gowlerk said:

Agreed. If Biden were to resign as POTUS she would get the job for the remainder of his term. If he drops out as a contender for the nomination then she is still his VP, but that is all she is. She was his choice and she goes down with him when he drops out.

Any replacement needs to deal with the Biden/Harris war chest. That is, they'll need a shit bag of money, like hundreds of millions if it's a cat and dog fight, unless Harris is brought into the solution from the start. That is and has been my concern with the Joe needs to go argument. Yes, he needs to go on the merits. But the thing is more complicated that just that.

[kallend 2,106]

Fact is, we're fucked.

[brenthutch 444]

It’s funny to watch all of the folks who defend Biden and Harris in the past (“He just has a stutter” and “She is an accomplished and successful attorney/ DA/Senator”) now soiling their panties when they finally wake up and see what has been right in front of their faces for years.

That said IT IS GOING TO BE OK! We survived one Trump term, we will survive another. The administrative state might take a bit of a haircut but it was getting shaggy and needed one anyway.

Edited July 5, 2024 by brenthutch

[nigel99 568]

  On 7/5/2024 at 11:32 AM, brenthutch said:

It’s funny to watch all of the folks who defend Biden and Harris in the past (“He just has a stutter” and “She is an accomplished and successful attorney/ DA/Senator”) now soiling their panties when they finally wake up and see what has been right in their faces for years.

That said IT IS GOING TO BE OK! We survived one Trump term, we will survive another. The administrative state might take a bit of a haircut but it was getting shaggy and needed one anyway.

If you think you survived one Trump term you’re dreaming. The damage and fallout from Trump on the justice system and rule of law continues every day.

A second term will be significantly worse, King Trump will probably crown Don Junior to continue the royal legacy.

[Phil1111 1,149]

  On 7/5/2024 at 11:32 AM, brenthutch said:

......That said IT IS GOING TO BE OK! We survived one Trump term, we will survive another. The administrative state might take a bit of a haircut but it was getting shaggy and needed one anyway.

Regulations on dumping pollution, keeping bankers from making foolish loans to deadbeat friends, corruption of the state and anti-competitive behavior. None of that is necessary in a dictatorship after all, it works so well in Russia and China.

[brenthutch 444]

  On 7/5/2024 at 12:04 PM, Phil1111 said:

Regulations on dumping pollution, keeping bankers from making foolish loans to deadbeat friends, corruption of the state and anti-competitive behavior. None of that is necessary in a dictatorship after all, it works so well in Russia and China.

Sorry Phil, but when the state requires a boat captain to pay the salary of a bureaucrat to supervise him, and when mud puddles fall under the jurisdiction of the EPA, things have gone to far.

[lippy 918]

  On 7/5/2024 at 12:19 PM, brenthutch said:

when the state requires a boat captain to pay the salary of a bureaucrat to supervise him, and when mud puddles fall under the jurisdiction of the EPA, things have gone to far.

When lax government oversight leads to a degradation of quality in the name of profit, resulting in 737's pounding in and jettisoning doors mid-flight, things have gone too far.

 

  On 7/5/2024 at 11:32 AM, brenthutch said:

It’s funny to watch all of the folks who defend Biden and Harris in the past (“He just has a stutter” and “She is an accomplished and successful attorney/ DA/Senator”) now soiling their panties when they finally wake up and see what has been right in front of their faces for years.

My panties are unsoiled, thank you very much...they're also lacy, but it's strictly a comfort thing!

[Phil1111 1,149]

  On 7/5/2024 at 12:19 PM, brenthutch said:

Sorry Phil, but when the state requires a boat captain to pay the salary of a bureaucrat to supervise him, and when mud puddles fall under the jurisdiction of the EPA, things have gone to far.

Commercial boat captains don't need licenses or oversight. Wetlands should be all paved over or sold to unsuspecting homeowners. Got it.

[winsor 236]

  On 7/5/2024 at 12:19 PM, brenthutch said:

Sorry Phil, but when the state requires a boat captain to pay the salary of a bureaucrat to supervise him, and when mud puddles fall under the jurisdiction of the EPA, things have gone to far.

All a matter of which poison is preferable.

[johnhking1 97]

  On 7/5/2024 at 1:28 AM, JerryBaumchen said:

Hi Joe,

And, even deeper with this:  Biden said that he was in good shape but then quipped, "It's just my brain."

Biden may still decide to exit race, Hawaii governor says : NPR

OK, when do you folks out there think when he will toss in the towel?

Jerry Baumchen

PS)  Can you not just see the saliv

  Biden said that he was in good shape but then quipped, "It's just my brain."

Sometimes there is more to a joke.

[SkyDekker 1,465]

  On 7/4/2024 at 9:45 PM, BIGUN said:

No. Our friends on the left here discussed how racism is pretty pervasive in the military.

Right, backed by studies and stats. Then we had a bunch of right wing white men say how all that was malarkey.

 

We now see the same with the MAGA crowd. Doesn't matter what lies are told, the important part is if the libs get owned.

Edited July 5, 2024 by SkyDekker

[johnhking1 97]

  On 7/5/2024 at 1:33 AM, JoeWeber said:

When Obama tells him it's time, probably. 

Obama may not to pass up a fourth term.

[brenthutch 444]

  On 7/3/2024 at 5:14 PM, SkyDekker said:

Disagree:

Restore the family as the centerpiece of American life

 

 

What would you recommend? The government?

[SkyDekker 1,465]

  On 7/5/2024 at 11:14 PM, brenthutch said:

What would you recommend? The government?

People. I don't think it needs to be Christian, married, Mom, Dad and their two kids.

[brenthutch 444]

  On 7/5/2024 at 11:48 PM, SkyDekker said:

People. I don't think it needs to be Christian, married, Mom, Dad and their two kids.

I didn’t say Christian, married, Mom, Dad and their two kids, I said family. The family unit has been the fundamental building block for society for millennia.

[BIGUN 1,402]

  On 7/5/2024 at 4:13 PM, SkyDekker said:

Right, backed by studies and stats. Then we had a bunch of right wing white men say how all that was malarkey.

What observations did you make from your time in the military?  

[SkyDekker 1,465]

  On 7/5/2024 at 11:58 PM, brenthutch said:

I didn’t say Christian, married, Mom, Dad and their two kids, I said family. The family unit has been the fundamental building block for society for millennia.

Maybe you didn't, but project 2025 certainly does, which is what the question was about.

 

And forced, cheap, sometimes enslaved labour has been the fundamental building block for society for millennia.

 

There is nothing to suggest that if mom and dad aren't married anything fundamentally changes.

Edited July 6, 2024 by SkyDekker

[nigel99 568]

applicable to both candidates

[JerryBaumchen 1,434]

Hi folks,

Apparently, it is not a lock for Biden:  delegates could choose not to cast their ballots for him at the nominating convention.

California Democrat reminds delegates party rules don’t require them to vote for Biden at DNC (msn.com)

There is still hope.

Jerry Baumchen

[JoeWeber 2,822]

  On 7/6/2024 at 12:41 AM, JerryBaumchen said:

Hi folks,

Apparently, it is not a lock for Biden:  delegates could choose not to cast their ballots for him at the nominating convention.

California Democrat reminds delegates party rules don’t require them to vote for Biden at DNC (msn.com)

There is still hope.

Jerry Baumchen

It's great seeing you this fired up. Maybe we'll nominate you. I think that's not as clear cut as that but unless he does something big and bold and fast I'll be thinking he missed his cjance.

[JerryBaumchen 1,434]

  On 7/6/2024 at 12:53 AM, JoeWeber said:

It's great seeing you this fired up. Maybe we'll nominate you. I think that's not as clear cut as that but unless he does something big and bold and fast I'll be thinking he missed his cjance.

Hi Joe,

For only one reason:  I DO NOT WANT DONALD TRUMP TO WIN.

If I thought Joe could beat him, I would stay silent.

Jerry Baumchen