More Sacrifices to the First Amendment

[normiss 798]

1 hour ago, airdvr said:

I guess I'm not good at defining my meaning.  In my mind sick fuck = pedophile. I know the chances are rare but never zero.

Trans doesn't mean the same thing as pedophile.

[billvon 2,990]

12 minutes ago, normiss said:

Trans doesn't mean the same thing as pedophile.

Remember when the right wing tried to redefine gay as pedophile?  "FAGS IN YOUR SON'S PANTS!" was a right wing rallying cry against gay teachers.

[SkyDekker 1,465]

2 hours ago, airdvr said:

I guess I'm not good at defining my meaning.  In my mind sick fuck = pedophile. I know the chances are rare but never zero.

ok, but that has nothing to do with trans people.

[airdvr 210]

I'm not saying trans = pedo.  I'm saying unisex bathrooms present an opportunity for some SF to pose as one.

[wmw999 2,444]

25 minutes ago, airdvr said:

I'm not saying trans = pedo.  I'm saying unisex bathrooms present an opportunity for some SF to pose as one.

So do regular single-sex bathrooms. All they have to do is burst in. Or wait outside, as though they’re waiting for their girlfriend. If you count the number of rapes from fake trans women vs the number who are given roofies, I’ll bet I can guess which wins. 
And I’ll bet that the number of trans people attacked in women’s rooms (or just outside them) exceeds the number of women attacked in ladies’ rooms. Does that make it OK?

Wendy P. 

[olofscience 480]

36 minutes ago, airdvr said:

I'm not saying trans = pedo.  I'm saying unisex bathrooms present an opportunity for some SF to pose as one.

Why just unisex bathrooms? Should we close skydiving dropzones? Because they also present plenty of opportunities for creeps, and as we all know many of those opportunities are also taken. I don't think they would be deterred by a single-sex bathroom.

Edited December 10, 2024 by olofscience

[normiss 798]

33 minutes ago, airdvr said:

I'm not saying trans = pedo.  I'm saying unisex bathrooms present an opportunity for some SF to pose as one.

Weird. I've only seen pervs in the men's room. Go with coworkers to a gay bar that tolerates anything and you'll get even more confused I expect.

Of course I haven't been in a ladies room, and all of the generic human bathrooms - going back to Germany in the 60's-early 70's, no sick fucks seen at all.

But then I tend to simply go to the bathroom to go to the bathroom. Like all non-MAGAT humanoids do.

[billvon 2,990]

56 minutes ago, airdvr said:

I'm not saying trans = pedo.  I'm saying unisex bathrooms present an opportunity for some SF to pose as one.

Unisex means "both sexes can use it."  I lived in a dorm with unisex bathrooms for four years so I do have some experience with this.  When you are trying to decide which bathroom to use, and you are planning to use a unisex bathroom, follow this guide:

Straight man -> unisex bathroom
Straight woman -> unisex bathroom
Straight man who wants to molest children -> unisex bathroom
Trans woman -> unisex bathroom
Trans woman who wants to molest children -> unisex bathroom
Gay man -> unisex bathroom
Gay woman -> unisex bathroom

If you are indeed a pedophile, being trans or cis does not matter when it comes to unisex bathrooms, because everyone uses the same one.  Unisex bathrooms present no additional barriers or opportunities.

Perhaps the one important thing you could draw from all the above is that it's the pedophiles that are the problem, not the trans people.

[JoeWeber 2,720]

1 hour ago, airdvr said:

I'm not saying trans = pedo.  I'm saying unisex bathrooms present an opportunity for some SF to pose as one.

Just the idea that we live on a planet where people are pretending that they are something or someone they aren’t freaks me out. 

[normiss 798]

16 minutes ago, JoeWeber said:

Just the idea that we live on a planet where people are pretending that they are something or someone they aren’t freaks me out. 

I would suggest you do some research.

Your description is dishonest at best.

[kallend 2,026]

23 minutes ago, JoeWeber said:

Just the idea that we live on a planet where people are pretending that they are something or someone they aren’t freaks me out. 

John Wayne pretending to be a hero in WW2 movies comes to mind.

[normiss 798]

35 minutes ago, JoeWeber said:

Just the idea that we live on a planet where people are pretending that they are something or someone they aren’t freaks me out. 

At what age did you decide to pretend to be who you are?

[tkhayes 348]

2 hours ago, airdvr said:

I'm not saying trans = pedo.  I'm saying unisex bathrooms present an opportunity for some SF to pose as one.

already asked several times and endlessly ignored by you.... what exactly are you afraid of and how d you justify that fear?

Go ahead, ignore it again..... we are asking you WHY you believe what you believe, you don't help yourself by continuously repeating it..... yes, we get it, you hate the idea of trans people in bathrooms and you think they might be 'sick fucks', whatever that is.

What is the fear.....?  How do you justify that fear?  What is the methodology you use to come to your beliefs?  I mean if trans does not mean 'pedo' then what does it mean?

[billvon 2,990]

1 hour ago, JoeWeber said:

Just the idea that we live on a planet where people are pretending that they are something or someone they aren’t freaks me out. 

I pretend to be a pilot!  That should definitely freak people out.

[JoeWeber 2,720]

1 hour ago, normiss said:

At what age did you decide to pretend to be who you are?

I am always reinventing myself, or so it seems.

[winsor 236]

2 hours ago, kallend said:

John Wayne pretending to be a hero in WW2 movies comes to mind.

My father, who spearheaded numerous invasions in the Pacific, would leave the room if Marion Morrison came on.

Not that he claimed to be heroic - he greatly disliked having things go bang all around, and not everything missed - but even Dick Nixon was a Naval Officer in a theater of war.

Loathe Tricky Dick though he might, the contempt my father had for John Wayne ("that fucking draft dodger") was unmatched.

[JerryBaumchen 1,362]

4 hours ago, normiss said:

Weird. I've only seen pervs in the men's room. Go with coworkers to a gay bar that tolerates anything and you'll get even more confused I expect.

Of course I haven't been in a ladies room, and all of the generic human bathrooms - going back to Germany in the 60's-early 70's, no sick fucks seen at all.

But then I tend to simply go to the bathroom to go to the bathroom. Like all non-MAGAT humanoids do.

Hi Mark,

About 40 yrs ago, somewhat drunk, I walked into one, by mistake.  Wasn't there to use a urinal & no women around; just did my thing & got out as quick as I could.

No harm - no foul,

Jerry Baumchen

[JerryBaumchen 1,362]

3 hours ago, kallend said:

John Wayne pretending to be a hero in WW2 movies comes to mind.

Hi John,

The only major movie star, that I know of, who actively petitioned his draft board to not take him.

IMO a total coward.

Jerry Baumchen

[airdvr 210]

3 hours ago, tkhayes said:

already asked several times and endlessly ignored by you.... what exactly are you afraid of and how d you justify that fear?

Go ahead, ignore it again..... we are asking you WHY you believe what you believe, you don't help yourself by continuously repeating it..... yes, we get it, you hate the idea of trans people in bathrooms and you think they might be 'sick fucks', whatever that is.

What is the fear.....?  How do you justify that fear?  What is the methodology you use to come to your beliefs?  I mean if trans does not mean 'pedo' then what does it mean?

Do you have daughters?

[wmw999 2,444]

8 hours ago, airdvr said:

Do you have daughters?

I am a daughter. Does that give me standing?

Wendy P. 

[airdvr 210]

2 hours ago, wmw999 said:

I am a daughter. Does that give me standing?

Wendy P. 

If course. I’m sure your father would understand the desire to keep you safe. I know the chances are slim that a child molester could pose as trans to gain access early but It’s never zero

[wmw999 2,444]

It’s also never zero whenever he allows her to step outside the house, especially in a city (or any place with lots of man-oriented jobs, like oilfields and places with lots of construction). The way to absolutely protect your daughter is never to let her leave the house, and maybe make her wear lots of clothing when she does.

You can also teach her to advocate for herself, and to protect herself. Learn her surroundings, and know where she’s going. Instead of being in charge of her protection forever, give her the tools to protect herself. She can use those for a lifetime, and rely on herself, rather than a series of men whose motives she’s always going to question if she’s always “needed protection.”

You can’t control men — that doesn’t make it OK to control women. And it doesn’t make it reasonable to trample all over one person’s feelings to protect your own. I think you said your daughter went into the military. She’s far more vulnerable there to assault than in a ladies’s room with a transgender person. Look at the numbers  

Wendy P  

 

 

[BIGUN 1,306]

1 hour ago, wmw999 said:

The way to absolutely protect your daughter is never to let her leave the house, and maybe make her wear lots of clothing when she does.

 . . . taking notes :)

[tkhayes 348]

13 hours ago, airdvr said:

Do you have daughters?

Not actually relevant. I have women in my life. I have nieces that I care about. Go ahead… Don’t answer the questions, don’t explain your rationale, don’t explain your fears, don’t justify your fears, just continue your status quo of being filled with fucking hate for people who will happen to be different than you

[SkyDekker 1,465]

14 hours ago, airdvr said:

Do you have daughters?

I do. And if I spoke like you did, she would disown me.