Harris or Trump in November

[Coreece 190]

14 minutes ago, billvon said:

If you just now decided that this is NOT DEMOCRATIC!!!!!@@!@!!  but all previous nominations were, you're being a bit of a drama queen.

Hmm, calling BLM drama queens?  We never heard that before.

[headoverheels 333]

55 minutes ago, nigel99 said:

the only valid argument I’ve heard - and it’s still a stretch, is that Biden finances shouldn’t be drawn on. The law is odd at times and I can see that being a potential issue. 

My understanding is that the Biden campaign can do absolutely anything they want to with the donations, except use it for personal gain/expenses.  Give it back, give it to charity, use it to support candidates for any office as desired.   I haven't heard whether the same applies for PAC money.

[headoverheels 333]

1 hour ago, Coreece said:

https://x.com/Blklivesmatter/status/1815629502128533647

"Black Lives Matter

Timeline of Events

Sunday

•Kamala Harris says she is going to work hard to earn the nomination.

Monday

•Kamala Harris releases this statement, noting she has worked hard to “go out and earn this nomination” as promised (Monday night).

"A 24-hour process of talking to party bosses is not democratic, nor is it a process Democrats should be proud of. We do not live in a dictatorship. Delegates are not oligarchs. Installing Kamala Harris as the Democratic nominee and an unknown vice president without any public voting process would make the modern Democratic Party a party of hypocrites. We call on the @DNCto create a process that allows for public participation in the nomination process, not just a nomination by party delegates."

For some reason, all of a sudden a bunch of folks who were fond of saying that we are a republic not a democracy have a problem with being a republic not a democracy.

[Coreece 190]

2 minutes ago, headoverheels said:

1 hour ago, Coreece said:

https://x.com/Blklivesmatter/status/1815629502128533647

"Black Lives Matter

Timeline of Events

Sunday

•Kamala Harris says she is going to work hard to earn the nomination.

Monday

•Kamala Harris releases this statement, noting she has worked hard to “go out and earn this nomination” as promised (Monday night).

"A 24-hour process of talking to party bosses is not democratic, nor is it a process Democrats should be proud of. We do not live in a dictatorship. Delegates are not oligarchs. Installing Kamala Harris as the Democratic nominee and an unknown vice president without any public voting process would make the modern Democratic Party a party of hypocrites. We call on the @DNCto create a process that allows for public participation in the nomination process, not just a nomination by party delegates."

For some reason, all of a sudden a bunch of folks who were fond of saying that we are a republic not a democracy have a problem with being a republic not a democracy.

When did BLM ever say that we are a republic and not a democracy?

[Erroll 80]

2 hours ago, nigel99 said:

That’s clutching at straws

As long as they are plastic straws you are good......

[olofscience 480]

On 7/25/2024 at 12:48 AM, Coreece said:

But it's interesting how the minute you disagree with BLM you lash out and call them racists with stupid arguments - funny how that works.

Your one warning

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Remove abusive language

[kallend 2,026]

4 hours ago, Coreece said:

yawn-worthy stuff about BLM

How about a comment on this:

Court records are clear and specific sources.  They indicate that:

Trump is a fraud (3 different courts)

Trump is a liar

Trump is a thief

Trump is a felon

Trump is a sexual predator.

Try to avoid hypocrisy.

[nigel99 471]

1 hour ago, kallend said:

How about a comment on this:

Court records are clear and specific sources.  They indicate that:

Trump is a fraud (3 different courts)

Trump is a liar

Trump is a thief

Trump is a felon

Trump is a sexual predator.

Try to avoid hypocrisy.

The problem with you John is you don’t know your bible! Trump has repented of his old ways and prays regularly for forgiveness.

https://www.tiktok.com/@stewiesaaz/video/7245788154945473818 didn’t family guy teach you anything?

[wmw999 2,444]

6 hours ago, Coreece said:

When did BLM ever say that we are a republic and not a democracy?

No matter what happens, it'll be possible to find a problem with it, and if it's a topic/person/cause you disagree with, you'll work hard to find that problem, and if it's one that you agree with, the problem will be "unimportant" or "unavoidable."

Just like people who favor the Democrats think about things like the completely chickenshit way in which the Republicans both denied a Supreme Court justiceship because "it was too close to the election," and then ramrodded one through seven months later in the next election cycle because they could.

The difference is -- Biden really didn't want to drop out; he was proven wrong in that want, and the circumstances changed. The Republicans in the Senate were consistent in the "whatever it takes" philosophy, including lying and cheating.

Wendy P.

[Phil1111 1,149]

1 hour ago, nigel99 said:

The problem with you John is you don’t know your bible! Trump has repented of his old ways and prays regularly for forgiveness.

https://www.tiktok.com/@stewiesaaz/video/7245788154945473818 didn’t family guy teach you anything?

There are two parts to that. The evangelical side forgives him every day because Trump is their sinner. They are about 18% of his base. Another 18% of his base loves the dirty tricks, loves the lying, adores the pussy grabbing and the debasement of women, Brown, Black people. Because its what they do.

[wolfriverjoe 1,523]

7 hours ago, headoverheels said:

My understanding is that the Biden campaign can do absolutely anything they want to with the donations, except use it for personal gain/expenses.  Give it back, give it to charity, use it to support candidates for any office as desired.   I haven't heard whether the same applies for PAC money.

One thing I've been hearing is that since it was the "Biden/Harris" campaign, Harris and her organization has full use of the money, even the PAC money for the campaign.

[gowlerk 2,190]

12 minutes ago, wolfriverjoe said:

One thing I've been hearing is that since it was the "Biden/Harris" campaign, Harris and her organization has full use of the money, even the PAC money for the campaign.

She will use the Biden/Harris money. The Rs will complain to the FEC who will "investigate". In about a year's time it will issue a ruling that will not matter.

[nigel99 471]

I got curious about the current US demographic as it has been shifting over the years. 
 

I think this raises 2 interesting points. Firstly the whole DEI argument could backfire in a big way as it pits whites against ‘others’. If the entire block of ‘others’ feels alienated they will be driven to Kamilla and more incentivised to vote. 
 

Secondly it explains MAGA. I was born in Rhodesia prior to Independence. The UK had implemented a policy in Rhodesia of qualified majority voting. If you had a certain level of education or wealth you could vote. It was not based on race. The intention was a gradual transition of power. The Rhodesien Government driven largely by the farming and rural white communities saw the transition coming and in the sixties unilaterally declared independence and changed the rules. This whole process triggered the war and ultimately the formation of Zimbabwe and the installation of a dictator Mugabe. 

You can understand why uneducated, rural whites in the US are scared for their future, as the demographics shift and why Trump resonates with them. Unfortunately they are sorely let down by the GOP/MAGA as they feed on the fear and whip up hate. It’s a long term losing strategy and they would be better off fighting to improve the education levels and helping to allay their fears.

[gowlerk 2,190]

14 minutes ago, nigel99 said:

I think this raises 2 interesting points. Firstly the whole DEI argument could backfire in a big way as it pits whites against ‘others’.

Yes, this is the basis of what is called "identity politics". And it has been working and used by both the left and the right in the USA. It is the reason large numbers of Americans vote against their economic interests. 

[Phil1111 1,149]

Just now, gowlerk said:

Yes, this is the basis of what is called "identity politics". And it has been working and used by both the left and the right in the USA. It is the reason large numbers of Americans vote against their economic interests. 

So you're suggesting a bounty of useful idiots all around?

[gowlerk 2,190]

1 minute ago, Phil1111 said:

So you're suggesting a bounty of useful idiots all around?

Half the population is below the median.

[Phil1111 1,149]

11 minutes ago, gowlerk said:

Half the population is below the median.

Sad. As compared to the rest of the world where 1/2 is above!

[winsor 236]

1 hour ago, gowlerk said:

Half the population is below the median.

Some cohorts are a standard deviation above the mean, others a standard deviation below.

All that aside, the level of mediocrity that is put forth by either side is astounding.

[SkyDekker 1,465]

3 hours ago, winsor said:

Some cohorts are a standard deviation above the mean, others a standard deviation below.

All that aside, the level of mediocrity that is put forth by either side is astounding.

Looking down from my cohort everyone is mediocre.

[headoverheels 333]

21 minutes ago, SkyDekker said:

Looking down from my cohort everyone is mediocre.

From mine, most are inferior.  A smaller number rise to mediocrity.

[Coreece 190]

14 hours ago, olofscience said:

Oh look, the troll is back and either thinks he's made a clever "gotcha" or was simply too stupid to understand that nigel99 was referring to him. 

Just because you're afraid to criticize BLM doesn't make it a gotcha. The only gotcha here is you reducing yourself to making unwarranted PA's.  And again, you're the only one here that has publicly admitted that you identify as a troll, and your post supports that fact.

Nigel clearly called the argument stupid and reflects racism, but it's not an argument that I ever made, nor a position I ever held - It was BLM's. Maybe he really thought it was my argument, but I doubt it.  Either way, it was telling to see how he really feels about them.

It's typical that the minute the left disagrees with minorities or no longer has use for them, they just shit all over and forget them, just like the democrats do every 4 years after an election. Which explains why practically every democrat run inner city remains violent, poverty stricken hellholes and have stayed that way since the 60s.

[Coreece 190]

12 hours ago, wmw999 said:

The difference is -- Biden really didn't want to drop out; he was proven wrong in that want, and the circumstances changed.

I figured that Harris would naturally be first on the Dems list for obvious reasons.  It was probably inevitable at that point.  Pelosi basically grabbed Joe by the balls and told him it's only going to get more painful - then they would've 25th'd him if they had to, but that would've made everyone look bad.

 

12 hours ago, wmw999 said:

The Republicans in the Senate were consistent in the "whatever it takes" philosophy, including lying and cheating.

Practically the entire Biden/Harris admin along with the liberal state media lied to your face for at least 1-2 years about Biden's mental condition.  Even weeks before the infamous debate you had people like Harris, Mayorkas, Joe scarborough, etc., telling you guys that he's in control, cogent, beyond cogent, sharp, detailed oriented and probing, the best Joe Biden ever, at his best! 

Then when we tried telling you that he's not, they said oh, it's just a studder, conservatives are manipulating videos, bad angles out of context, they're cheap fakes!  And that cheap fakes one came right from KJP during a press conference. When she was called out on it after the debate, she said that it didn't come from her, not her podium, that was the media, lmao.

And they would've ran with Joe all the way through the election if they could've, but their lies caught up with them on the international stage.

[nigel99 471]

42 minutes ago, Coreece said:

Just because you're afraid to criticize BLM doesn't make it a gotcha. The only gotcha here is you reducing yourself to making unwarranted PA's.  And again, you're the only one here that has publicly admitted that you identify as a troll, and your post supports that fact.

Nigel clearly called the argument stupid and reflects racism, but it's not an argument that I ever made, nor a position I ever held - It was BLM's. Maybe he really thought it was my argument, but I doubt it.  Either way, it was telling to see how he really feels about them.

It's typical that the minute the left disagrees with minorities or no longer has use for them, they just shit all over and forget them, just like the democrats do every 4 years after an election. Which explains why practically every democrat run inner city remains violent, poverty stricken hellholes and have stayed that way since the 60s.

No I am not talking about BLM!

MAGA are the ones pushing that agenda hard. No integrity and no backbone and they almost always hide behind their cult leaders approach of retweet or ‘some people are saying’ as they don’t have the balls to own their racism and bigotry.

I get that you’re right wing, there’s some really good right wing people Liz Cheney for example. Politic leanings should be about policy and beliefs, not a cult of personality and reality tv. I watch what Biden, Harris, Jeffreys say and their actions and for the most part they are people of integrity who talk about policy and vision. I then compare that to Johnson, Trump, Vance, McConnel, Lindsey who spew hatred and fear, and have no recognisable policies. None of them have any backbone or spine just look at their record. Trump is quite literally a felon convicted in court by a jury, his own VP called him America’s hitler.

I don’t know how deep into the MAGA cult you are, but as a proclaimed Christian I would hope that you would ‘see the light’ and put aside the idolatry of Donald. The right needs people with conviction who will stand up to him and MAGA and represent right wing policies and values - because that is good for the country.

[Phil1111 1,149]

2 hours ago, nigel99 said:

....I don’t know how deep into the MAGA cult you are, but as a proclaimed Christian I would hope that you would ‘see the light’ and put aside the idolatry of Donald. The right needs people with conviction who will stand up to him and MAGA and represent right wing policies and values - because that is good for the country.

Deeeeep. The evangelical cult of MAGA involves Trump whoreship. "Whoreship = when you're not only willing to worship something wether it's a cause or an object, but willing to be a whore for the cause/object". In that cult you don't put aside the idols of racism, misogyny, pussy grabbing, lying and the tears of emotion when the image of Trump is shown.

 

[kallend 2,026]

10 hours ago, Coreece said:

 

 

blah

How do you rationalize your support for a convicted felon, proven fraud, pathological liar, self confessed sexual predator and adulterer, who stole from his own foundation, a six time banktrupt who screwed his investors, and who called US military killed or injured in the service of their country "losers" and "suckers"?