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13 hours ago, wolfriverjoe said:

In what way do you think he is "quite smart"?

Please provide examples of actual intelligence, not just a rich guy doing whatever he wants.

He has street smarts with regards to white collar thuggery. He has yet to face any jail time. He turned what $10-40 million into billions. He screwed every bank over that he ever dealt with. Grabbed pussy and raped many women. Yet still was elected president. Do you recognize facts? He knows the psychology of marks. How to do the con and the long con. He got several lieutenants appointed to the USSC.

None of this is to be admired unless you're a Hells Angel, a MAGA devotee, etc. But his con of the GOP is masterful in itself. Do you think rich people get away with whatever they want because they are rich?

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5 minutes ago, Phil1111 said:

He has street smarts with regards to white collar thuggery. He has yet to face any jail time. He turned what $10-40 million into billions. He screwed every bank over that he ever dealt with. Grabbed pussy and raped many women. Yet still was elected president. Do you recognize facts? He knows the psychology of marks. How to do the con and the long con. He got several lieutenants appointed to the USSC.

None of this is to be admired unless you're a Hells Angel, a MAGA devotee, etc. But his con of the GOP is masterful in itself. Do you think rich people get away with whatever they want because they are rich?

Those don't make him 'smart'. Not really

He's really good at telling people what they want to hear, reading a 'mark' and pulling off a con.

I don't think he 'turned $40 million into billions'.
He lost most of it.
He's declared bankruptcy several times.

He screws over EVERYONE who is stupid enough to do business with him.

He was so bad at repaying loans that he mortgaged his soul to Russia.

He couldn't even come up with the $200k bail when he was arrested in Georgia.

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1 minute ago, wolfriverjoe said:

Those don't make him 'smart'. Not really

He's really good at telling people what they want to hear, reading a 'mark' and pulling off a con.

I don't think he 'turned $40 million into billions'.
He lost most of it.
He's declared bankruptcy several times.

He screws over EVERYONE who is stupid enough to do business with him.

He was so bad at repaying loans that he mortgaged his soul to Russia.

He couldn't even come up with the $200k bail when he was arrested in Georgia.

"What’s Donald Trump really worth? People have been asking the question for decades, though never with as much urgency as they are today. The answer: $7.5 billion, according to our most recent tally, last updated on May 2, 2024. Below, Forbes offers an asset-by-asset breakdown of the Trump fortune."

Agree "He's really good at telling people what they want to hear, reading a 'mark' and pulling off a con."

Agree absolutely "He screws over EVERYONE who is stupid enough to do business with him."

Since Forbes is one of the largest donors to democrat causes, its likely accurate. We will have to agree to disagree.

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On 8/3/2024 at 5:08 PM, ryoder said:

How would we detect the difference?

Undetectable.

 

“Google, nobody called from Google. one of the things like doing a show like yours, your show, you know, you see it on Fox, but when you really see it is all over the place, they take clips of your show that you’re doing right now with me and if I do a good job, they’re gonna vote for me, they're gonna vote for me because it’s not just on Fox, it’s on Fox is a smaller part of it. you’re on all over this, those little beautiful cell phones you’re on, you’re all over the place. you have a product, you have a great product. you have a great brand. so you have to get out, you have to get out, you have to do things like your show and other shows and Google has been very bad. they’ve been very irresponsible and I have a feeling that Google is gonna be close to shut down.”

 

 

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On 8/4/2024 at 4:54 AM, obelixtim said:

Here is the full quote:

“Why do some British people not like Donald Trump?” Nate White, an articulate and witty writer from England wrote the following response:

A few things spring to mind. Trump lacks certain qualities which the British traditionally esteem. For instance, he has no class, no charm, no coolness, no credibility, no compassion, no wit, no warmth, no wisdom, no subtlety, no sensitivity, no self-awareness, no humility, no honour and no grace – all qualities, funnily enough, with which his predecessor Mr. Obama was generously blessed. So for us, the stark contrast does rather throw Trump’s limitations into embarrassingly sharp relief.

Plus, we like a laugh. And while Trump may be laughable, he has never once said anything wry, witty or even faintly amusing – not once, ever. I don’t say that rhetorically, I mean it quite literally: not once, not ever. And that fact is particularly disturbing to the British sensibility – for us, to lack humour is almost inhuman. But with Trump, it’s a fact. He doesn’t even seem to understand what a joke is – his idea of a joke is a crass comment, an illiterate insult, a casual act of cruelty.

Trump is a troll. And like all trolls, he is never funny and he never laughs; he only crows or jeers. And scarily, he doesn’t just talk in crude, witless insults – he actually thinks in them. His mind is a simple bot-like algorithm of petty prejudices and knee-jerk nastiness.

There is never any under-layer of irony, complexity, nuance or depth. It’s all surface. Some Americans might see this as refreshingly upfront. Well, we don’t. We see it as having no inner world, no soul. And in Britain we traditionally side with David, not Goliath. All our heroes are plucky underdogs: Robin Hood, Dick Whittington, Oliver Twist. Trump is neither plucky, nor an underdog. He is the exact opposite of that. He’s not even a spoiled rich-boy, or a greedy fat-cat. He’s more a fat white slug. A Jabba the Hutt of privilege.

And worse, he is that most unforgivable of all things to the British: a bully. That is, except when he is among bullies; then he suddenly transforms into a snivelling sidekick instead. There are unspoken rules to this stuff – the Queensberry rules of basic decency – and he breaks them all. He punches downwards – which a gentleman should, would, could never do – and every blow he aims is below the belt. He particularly likes to kick the vulnerable or voiceless – and he kicks them when they are down.

So the fact that a significant minority – perhaps a third – of Americans look at what he does, listen to what he says, and then think ‘Yeah, he seems like my kind of guy’ is a matter of some confusion and no little distress to British people, given that:
• Americans are supposed to be nicer than us, and mostly are.
• You don’t need a particularly keen eye for detail to spot a few flaws in the man.

This last point is what especially confuses and dismays British people, and many other people too; his faults seem pretty bloody hard to miss. After all, it’s impossible to read a single tweet, or hear him speak a sentence or two, without staring deep into the abyss. He turns being artless into an art form; he is a Picasso of pettiness; a Shakespeare of shit. His faults are fractal: even his flaws have flaws, and so on ad infinitum. God knows there have always been stupid people in the world, and plenty of nasty people too. But rarely has stupidity been so nasty, or nastiness so stupid. He makes Nixon look trustworthy and George W look smart. In fact, if Frankenstein decided to make a monster assembled entirely from human flaws – he would make a Trump.

And a remorseful Doctor Frankenstein would clutch out big clumpfuls of hair and scream in anguish: ‘My God… what… have… I… created?' If being a twat was a TV show, Trump would be the boxed set. 

not even a dog.....

 

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On 8/4/2024 at 6:20 PM, ryoder said:

I was just going from memory; I do prefer the phrasing of what you presented.

How about this one: Tim Walz “Because we’re good Minnesota Lutherans, we have a rule: if you do something good and talk about it, it no longer counts,” Walz joked during a speech last spring. “So what you have to do is to get someone else to talk about you.”

Donald Trump " I have done more for everyone than anyone else including Mother Teresa" paraphrasing here.

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53 minutes ago, Phil1111 said:

How about this one: Tim Walz “Because we’re good Minnesota Lutherans, we have a rule: if you do something good and talk about it, it no longer counts,” Walz joked during a speech last spring. “So what you have to do is to get someone else to talk about you.”

Donald Trump " I have done more for everyone than anyone else including Mother Teresa" paraphrasing here.

Hi Phil,

He does live in a strange world.  All of his own making.

Jerry Baumchen

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4) Harris made the stock market tank.

“Of course there is a massive market downturn. Kamala is even worse than Crooked Joe . . . STOCK MARKETS CRASHING. I TOLD YOU SO!!! KAMALA DOESN’T HAVE A CLUE. BIDEN IS SOUND ASLEEP. ALL CAUSED BY INEPT U.S. LEADERSHIP!”

“THIS IS THE TRUMP STOCK MARKET BECAUSE MY POLLS AGAINST BIDEN ARE SO GOOD!"

Ooops, that was a few months ago.

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5) Trump is better looking than Harris.

A republican reporter "said that Kamala has one big advantage, that she's a very beautiful woman.  I say that I am much better looking. I'm a better looking person than Kamala." 

What I want to know is - what happened to Kamabla?  Gone already?

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20 minutes ago, billvon said:

5) Trump is better looking than Harris.

A republican reporter "said that Kamala has one big advantage, that she's a very beautiful woman.  I say that I am much better looking. I'm a better looking person than Kamala." 

What I want to know is - what happened to Kamabla?  Gone already?

Yep. Now it's Comrade Kamala. Two days into the DNC and I have to say it feels durable. A nice poll bump post DNC and another round of money coming in could be significant if not decisive. 

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2 hours ago, billvon said:

5) Trump is better looking than Harris.

A republican reporter "said that Kamala has one big advantage, that she's a very beautiful woman.  I say that I am much better looking. I'm a better looking person than Kamala." 

Well, he does have larger boobs.

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