nigel99 471 #126 August 28, 2024 (edited) 42 minutes ago, brenthutch said: I think you might have missed a zero. Seriously? If you divide 3.4 billion by 100 million, you can think of it as a simple way to figure out how many times 100 million fits into 3.4 billion. First, let’s break down the numbers: - 3.4 billion is 3,400,000,000. - 100 million is 100,000,000. Now, imagine you have 3.4 billion in your hand, and you're taking away 100 million each time to see how many times you can do that. So, 3,400,000,000 ÷ 100,000,000 = 34. This means 100 million fits into 3.4 billion exactly 34 times. Edited to add: reminds me of the memes about Americans Edited August 28, 2024 by nigel99 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,444 #127 August 28, 2024 30 minutes ago, brenthutch said: Canada? Our deficit is larger than your entire GDP. 18.9% of not much, is still not that much. Canada? When the U.S. spits, Canada swims. Boy, now there’s a way to treat our closest (physically and culturally) ally. What do you call your wife? Or can she kick your ass, and therefore you’re polite Wendy P. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
winsor 236 #128 August 28, 2024 (edited) 55 minutes ago, brenthutch said: I think you might have missed a zero. Make that three. A billion is only $10/taxpayer, a trillion is $10,000/taxpayer. Edited August 28, 2024 by winsor Slide rule math - lost track of the exponent. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,190 #129 August 28, 2024 21 minutes ago, wmw999 said: Boy, now there’s a way to treat our closest (physically and culturally) ally. What do you call your wife? Or can she kick your ass, and therefore you’re polite Wendy P. The actual saying is that when the US pisses Canada swims. In other words this would be the BH version of restraint and politeness. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 1,149 #130 August 28, 2024 17 minutes ago, gowlerk said: The actual saying is that when the US pisses Canada swims. In other words this would be the BH version of restraint and politeness. Ah! the restrained and polite American. Isn't that how they are known all over the world? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,026 #131 August 28, 2024 5 hours ago, airdvr said: John. That was her proposal Horse dewormer was his. I know which I'd support. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,720 #132 August 28, 2024 1 hour ago, winsor said: Make that three. A billion is only $10/taxpayer, a trillion is $10,000/taxpayer. Happens to the best of us, obviously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,489 #133 August 28, 2024 (edited) . Edited August 28, 2024 by jakee Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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jakee 1,489 #135 August 28, 2024 4 hours ago, brenthutch said: Canada? Our deficit is larger than your entire GDP. 18.9% of not much, is still not that much. Canada? When the U.S. spits, Canada swims. If Canada isn't a country whose economy can be compared to the US, then which ones can? Everyone else except China is far closer to Canada than the US. So, according to you, the guy you quoted who was comparing the US to 'other countries' was talking utter bollocks, you dont actually believe a word he was saying, and you were just trying to fool everyone because you really don't have any reason to think there was a problem with the Biden stimulus package Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
olofscience 480 #136 August 28, 2024 7 hours ago, brenthutch said: I think you might have missed a zero. I really didn't You really want to contest this one, given that I've shown several times how bad you are at maths? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
olofscience 480 #137 August 28, 2024 6 hours ago, winsor said: Make that three. A billion is only $10/taxpayer, a trillion is $10,000/taxpayer. Don't blame your arithmetic errors on me. You missed four zeros to get to that $340,000 figure. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tkhayes 348 #138 August 28, 2024 20 hours ago, brenthutch said: How about casting the tie breaker vote(s) on two trillion dollars of deficit spending, resulting in a 20% increase in prices in just three years. That is the equivalent of a massive regressive tax that hurts all Americans especially the poor. A money party is fun while it lasts but the hangover is atrocious and long lasting. $8-9T under Trump.... according to you, Trump therefore is singlulary responsible for a massive regressive tax that hurts all americans, especially the poor. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tkhayes 348 #139 August 28, 2024 20 hours ago, brenthutch said: How about casting the tie breaker vote(s) on two trillion dollars of deficit spending, resulting in a 20% increase in prices in just three years. That is the equivalent of a massive regressive tax that hurts all Americans especially the poor. A money party is fun while it lasts but the hangover is atrocious and long lasting. $8-9T under Trump.... according to you, Trump therefore is singlulary responsible for a massive regressive tax that hurts all americans, especially the poor. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tkhayes 348 #140 August 28, 2024 9 hours ago, brenthutch said: No it’s the 1.9T on top of the 3T. While I think the 3T was more than adequate, the 1.9T added “gasoline to the fire”. While Trump is morally reprehensible, the average American was better off during the Trump administration than during the Biden administration, and the right track wrong track polling agreed with that assessment. stop pretending that you actually care about deficits ir debts when it is apparent you do not understand debt or how it works. And when you ESPECIALLY only care about deficits when Democrats are running the show. It is the oldest, lamest, weakest, frailest arguments I have ever heard, and it is pretty much ALL WE HEAR from the republicans when democrats are in power. 'the average american was better off....' no they weren't. Because they were living under an administration that was attempting to overthrow the government and install a president outside of the rule of law and the system of elections. In case you forgot, there are at least 2 dozen people serving time for sedition, and hundreds more serving time for other violent acts related to that sedition. If you cannot handle a constitutional republic, then perhaps this country is not for you..... ah but your view of the world is only consumed by the price of gas and groceries..... how broad minded..... Try again with a topic that matters.... BTW when are you getting your bill for that debt? I haven't seen mine yet..... maybe the democrats are clever enough to only send bill collection deficit invoices to republicans? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 444 #141 August 28, 2024 16 hours ago, airdvr said: Every American gets $2,000/month during covid. As it was DC was passing out money like drunken sailors. Not only American citizens. My folks hosted a Nepalese girl while she attended university, she had graduated and was living in Switzerland and she got a check. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 444 #142 August 28, 2024 4 minutes ago, tkhayes said: stop pretending that you actually care about deficits ir debts when it is apparent you do not understand debt or how it works. And when you ESPECIALLY only care about deficits when Democrats are running the show. It is the oldest, lamest, weakest, frailest arguments I have ever heard, and it is pretty much ALL WE HEAR from the republicans when democrats are in power. 'the average american was better off....' no they weren't. Because they were living under an administration that was attempting to overthrow the government and install a president outside of the rule of law and the system of elections. In case you forgot, there are at least 2 dozen people serving time for sedition, and hundreds more serving time for other violent acts related to that sedition. If you cannot handle a constitutional republic, then perhaps this country is not for you..... ah but your view of the world is only consumed by the price of gas and groceries..... how broad minded..... Try again with a topic that matters.... BTW when are you getting your bill for that debt? I haven't seen mine yet..... maybe the democrats are clever enough to only send bill collection deficit invoices to republicans? Two things, first of all you are confusing “attempting” with doing, so that is a big nothingburger. Secondly you are paying the bill for the Democrats money party everytime you get groceries, fill your tank, pay rent or try to buy anything on credit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tkhayes 348 #143 August 28, 2024 (edited) 7 minutes ago, brenthutch said: Two things, first of all you are confusing “attempting” with doing, so that is a big nothingburger. Secondly you are paying the bill for the Democrats money party everytime you get groceries, fill your tank, pay rent or try to buy anything on credit. No I am not.... the national debt does not get 'paid off' when you buy groceries. It is so PAINFULLY obvious that you have little idea about how things actually work, and yet you make continuous outlandish statements like 'wealth tax' when talking about subsidies and link Trump to 'deficit reduction' somehow..... You CONTINUOUSLY ignore everything and anything that the republicans have done, which happens to be IDENTICAL to what you accuse democrats of doing. You do realize we can actually read the bullshit that you write, right? It is painful to try and wade through the crap that you espouse.... Edited August 28, 2024 by tkhayes Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 444 #144 August 28, 2024 1 hour ago, tkhayes said: No I am not.... the national debt does not get 'paid off' when you buy groceries. It is so PAINFULLY obvious that you have little idea about how things actually work, and yet you make continuous outlandish statements like 'wealth tax' when talking about subsidies and link Trump to 'deficit reduction' somehow..... You CONTINUOUSLY ignore everything and anything that the republicans have done, which happens to be IDENTICAL to what you accuse democrats of doing. You do realize we can actually read the bullshit that you write, right? It is painful to try and wade through the crap that you espouse.... We did have deficits under both Democrat and Republican administrations but we did not have generationally high inflation until Bidenomics, which is costing the average American household $10,000+ a year. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 1,149 #145 August 28, 2024 1 hour ago, tkhayes said: No I am not.... the national debt does not get 'paid off' when you buy groceries. It is so PAINFULLY obvious that you have little idea about how things actually work, and yet you make continuous outlandish statements like 'wealth tax' when talking about subsidies and link Trump to 'deficit reduction' somehow..... You CONTINUOUSLY ignore everything and anything that the republicans have done, which happens to be IDENTICAL to what you accuse democrats of doing. You do realize we can actually read the bullshit that you write, right? It is painful to try and wade through the crap that you espouse.... When you only focus on stirring the pot sometimes words get mixed up. Just like when you stir a stew, the ingredients in the stew get mixed up. 1 minute ago, brenthutch said: We did have deficits under both Democrat and Republican administrations but we did not have generationally high inflation until Bidenomics, which is costing the average American household $10,000+ a year. Inflation was caused by trump's mismanagement of Covid. By trump's tax cuts for the wealthy and corporations. Even you know this. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 444 #146 August 28, 2024 (edited) 34 minutes ago, Phil1111 said: When you only focus on stirring the pot sometimes words get mixed up. Just like when you stir a stew, the ingredients in the stew get mixed up. Inflation was caused by trump's mismanagement of Covid. By trump's tax cuts for the wealthy and corporations. Even you know this. Show me where you came up with that fantasy. Trump administration inflation rate was 1.9%, Biden 5.7%. Triple that of Trump. Edited August 28, 2024 by brenthutch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 1,149 #147 August 28, 2024 6 minutes ago, brenthutch said: Show me where you came up with that fantasy. Trump administration inflation rate was 1.9%, Biden 5.7%. Hiring: Three years and five months into Biden’s term, the U.S. economy has created 15.6 million jobs. That compares with job losses totaling 12.6 million for Trump. National debt: Biden has so far added $4.3 trillion to the national debt, while Trump approved twice as much during his full term in office ($8.4 trillion). New jobs = wealth and wealth = more spending. Bideneconomics is just another attempt by republicans to lay blame on someone else. trump outborrowed Biden two to one. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 444 #148 August 28, 2024 6 minutes ago, Phil1111 said: Hiring: Three years and five months into Biden’s term, the U.S. economy has created 15.6 million jobs. That compares with job losses totaling 12.6 million for Trump. National debt: Biden has so far added $4.3 trillion to the national debt, while Trump approved twice as much during his full term in office ($8.4 trillion). New jobs = wealth and wealth = more spending. Bideneconomics is just another attempt by republicans to lay blame on someone else. trump outborrowed Biden two to one. 12.6 million of Biden’s “jobs created” were simply folks returning to work, post COVID. When Trump left office, American’s back accounts were up by a trillion dollars under Biden credit card debt was more than a trillion dollars. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,489 #149 August 28, 2024 2 hours ago, brenthutch said: Two things, first of all you are confusing “attempting” with doing, so that is a big nothingburger. Secondly you are paying the bill for the Democrats money party everytime you get groceries, fill your tank, pay rent or try to buy anything on credit. You mean trump’s money party? You know, the bigger one? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tkhayes 348 #150 August 28, 2024 23 hours ago, brenthutch said: How about casting the tie breaker vote(s) on two trillion dollars of deficit spending, resulting in a 20% increase in prices in just three years. That is the equivalent of a massive regressive tax that hurts all Americans especially the poor. A money party is fun while it lasts but the hangover is atrocious and long lasting. to quote you : "Show me where you came up with that fantasy." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites