ianmdrennan 2 #1 May 9, 2013 STOLEN GEAR - a PDFT rig has been stolen from Skydive City today. Looks like this, cutaway handle says GAGE, contains a Peregrine 67 s/n 18 with PD Optimum 126 and Cypres Speed 2. Thought to be local outsiders but please spread the word and share this ASAP. If you see it or hear of it please contact us at info@flight-1.com or call a team member. Contact details on www.pdfactoryteam.com. Thanks for your help. Please spread the word. IanPerformance Designs Factory Team Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
excaza 1 #2 May 9, 2013 I don't think they could have picked a more recognizable rig to steal Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weaverd 0 #3 May 9, 2013 hopefully the person who stole it jumps it and carves in Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
excaza 1 #4 May 9, 2013 I don't know if I could even get under it without dying. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bignugget 0 #5 May 10, 2013 s/n 18! I would think that would be a pretty tough resale, I saw a video of that thing flying too, looks intense. What kind of dickhead/jackass would steal that? Those are like invitation only canopies too right? Like stealing a one-off painting. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bucketlistpilot 1 #6 May 10, 2013 FOR SALE Great looking rig with Cypres2, PD Optimum 126. NO MAIN but has risers, slider, and spare slightly larger slider.Ian Purvis http://www.loadupsoftware.com LoadUp DZ Management App admin@loadupsoftware.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BeteNoire 0 #7 May 10, 2013 ianmdrennan contains a Peregrine 67 Yeah the resale market for that is huge. NOT! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ianmdrennan 2 #8 May 10, 2013 Facts are a little scarce on this, of course, but it may have been a passer by who stole the gear, not a jumper. If it was a jumper, theres no way they could sell or jump the gear without word getting out (IMO). IanPerformance Designs Factory Team Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
demon4o7 0 #9 May 12, 2013 I'm thinking one of the elders watching the landings mistook it for their fanny pack. In all seriousness tho, if someone purposely took it... Wow... I have a general trust with my skydiving community and it would suck to have to keep a sharper eye on my rig. (and I don't even have embroidery on my rig!) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tristansdad 0 #10 May 12, 2013 I’d bet a weeks wages that it wasn’t a fellow skydiver, or at least one with half a brain. Probably some local non jumper who’s gonna try and hock it at some pawn shop a year from now thinking no one will be the wiser. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ianmdrennan 2 #11 May 12, 2013 Yeah, that's my personal opinion too. Too high profile for a jumper to do, and zero use.Performance Designs Factory Team Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
parachutist 2 #12 May 12, 2013 ianmdrennan Yeah, that's my personal opinion too. Too high profile for a jumper to do, and zero use. I'd love to have that main in my shop to dismantle it and learn what PD is doing with its cutting edge canopy. How's it built, where's it reinforced, what's the shape. So I wouldn't rule out someone from the industry being involved a bit Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SEREJumper 1 #13 May 13, 2013 Quote I'd love to have that main in my shop to dismantle it and learn what PD is doing with its cutting edge canopy. How's it built, where's it reinforced, what's the shape. So I wouldn't rule out someone from the industry being involved a bit +1, you beat me to it. Sad but true, if PD/PD sponsored jumpers are the only jumpers with these canopies, you have to wonder just a little...We're not fucking flying airplanes are we, no we're flying a glorified kite with no power and it should be flown like one! - Stratostar Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 846 #14 May 13, 2013 I was told the Peregrine was a copy of the Petra! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DocPop 1 #15 May 13, 2013 normiss I was told the Peregrine was a copy of the Petra! Stop that right now! "The ground does not care who you are. It will always be tougher than the human behind the controls." ~ CanuckInUSA Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydiverek 63 #16 May 13, 2013 Something tells me this is Reverse Engeenering at work... I wonder if the rig was left unattended and unlocked and any time. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GooniesKid 0 #17 May 13, 2013 Damn, that sucks! In good news, there's not alot of dudes that can fly a Peregrene 67. With that, the owner of the rig is probably sponsored and will most likely get another rig to fly. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tristansdad 0 #18 May 13, 2013 Um yeah cuz it was stolen. How many times have you left your gear unattended or unlocked while at the dz? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GooniesKid 0 #19 May 13, 2013 tristansdad Um yeah cuz it was stolen. How many times have you left your gear unattended or unlocked while at the dz? I never leave my gear unattended or unlocked at the DZ. Got my bag (just a cool bag to keep all my dive accessories and luckily none of that stuff was in the bag at the time) stolen once...ever since I have one of those micro locks on my zipper and another lock that attaches to my bag and rack. Will it stop someone from taking my bag if they really want it? Nope. But it is a deterrent versus a bag that isn't locked up. Just like anywhere else, there are some shady people (both skydivers and visitors ) at a DZ. To the dude who got his rig stolen, you must be sponsored to be flying that rig right? if so, don't worry, most likely you are sponsored and will have a free rig in the near future. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ianmdrennan 2 #20 May 13, 2013 Quote To the dude who got his rig stolen, you must be sponsored to be flying that rig right? if so, don't worry, most likely you are sponsored and will have a free rig in the near future. Why is that relevant? Stolen gear is stolen gear. Someone has to pay to replace it.....Performance Designs Factory Team Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pchapman 279 #21 May 13, 2013 ianmdrennan Quote To the dude who got his rig stolen, you must be sponsored to be flying that rig right? if so, don't worry, most likely you are sponsored and will have a free rig in the near future. Why is that relevant? Stolen gear is stolen gear. Someone has to pay to replace it..... Seinfeld: Kramer: It's a write-off for them. Jerry: How is it a write-off? Kramer: They just write it off. Jerry: Write it off what? Kramer: Jerry, all these big companies, they write off everything. Jerry: You don't even know what a write-off is. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GooniesKid 0 #22 May 13, 2013 ianmdrennan Quote To the dude who got his rig stolen, you must be sponsored to be flying that rig right? if so, don't worry, most likely you are sponsored and will have a free rig in the near future. Why is that relevant? Stolen gear is stolen gear. Someone has to pay to replace it..... From the perspective of the person that got his rig stolen, it doesn't matter...considering the dude (or dudette) is sponsored (which is most likely the case) he doesn't care, will get a new free rig to jump, and case closed. From the perspective of the company that lost the rig, then yeah they need to recoup the cost, which is probably just a fraction of what they make in a fiscal year. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,524 #23 May 13, 2013 Quote From the perspective of the person that got his rig stolen, it doesn't matter...considering the dude (or dudette) is sponsored (which is most likely the case) he doesn't care, will get a new free rig to jump, and case closed. From the perspective of the company that lost the rig, then yeah they need to recoup the cost, which is probably just a fraction of what they make in a fiscal year. Well, no. The PDFT are basically employees of the company, and they hold the health of the company as being important to them (which it is). They're also stand-up guys, which means that they care about the rig. And while a company can probably eat one rig, the profit margin and sales volume on skydiving equipment companies is low enough that it's not like saying Kroger can handle that strawberry you swiped off the produce counter Wendy P.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GooniesKid 0 #24 May 13, 2013 wmw999 Quote From the perspective of the person that got his rig stolen, it doesn't matter...considering the dude (or dudette) is sponsored (which is most likely the case) he doesn't care, will get a new free rig to jump, and case closed. From the perspective of the company that lost the rig, then yeah they need to recoup the cost, which is probably just a fraction of what they make in a fiscal year. Well, no. The PDFT are basically employees of the company, and they hold the health of the company as being important to them (which it is). They're also stand-up guys, which means that they care about the rig. And while a company can probably eat one rig, the profit margin and sales volume on skydiving equipment companies is low enough that it's not like saying Kroger can handle that strawberry you swiped off the produce counter Wendy P. Well then, strictly from a business point of view, the dude/dudette who got their rig stolen should be fired and/or pay for the rig right? Wouldn't it ultimately be their responsibility to take care of the rig; ie not have it stolen? And don't say, "oh, it's not the dude's fault for having it stolen" because at the end of the day, it was issued out to the sponsored person. If a recently graduated student got rental gear stolen the company issuing the gear would IMMEDIATELY charge the student's credit card for the loss. This is no different then. Saying it is no different is now putting sponsored people in a different class above all the rest in terms of "borrowing" gear. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,524 #25 May 13, 2013 Are you always this pleasant? Wendy P. There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites