brenthutch 444 #26 September 14, 2024 6 hours ago, jakee said: You post constantly about global average temperatures that are only the third or fourth or fifth or sixth highest in recorded history, not the absolute highest ever, in threads where you deny that global warming is happening. Apologise to Wendy for lying about her lying. I only relay what the NOAA reports. That said the NOAA reports that this is the hottest year ever (at least in the geologically insignificant 150 years), blowing right past the “danger level” and guess what? There was no KABOOM. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 444 #27 September 14, 2024 6 hours ago, olofscience said: You're forgetting Putin's invasion of Ukraine, spiking up energy prices, wheat prices and adding more misery to the supply chain disruption COVID caused. What part of “As far as inflation is concerned the I agree that supply chain disruptions were a contributing factor.” did you not comprehend? Not to mention our disastrous withdrawal from Afghanistan revealed weakness in the Biden administration and emboldened Putin. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,720 #28 September 14, 2024 33 minutes ago, brenthutch said: What part of “As far as inflation is concerned the I agree that supply chain disruptions were a contributing factor.” did you not comprehend? Not to mention our disastrous withdrawal from Afghanistan revealed weakness in the Biden administration and emboldened Putin. How would you have executed that withdrawal that was negotiated by Trump? Helicopters off the roof of the US Embassy? Like the retreat from Chosin? Mao's Long March? Or would you have emulated Leonidas at Thermopylae? There was no good option and no way to control every nasty variable. If you want someone to blame for those soldiers deaths blame George W. Bush and yourself if you voted for him. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 444 #29 September 14, 2024 (edited) 44 minutes ago, JoeWeber said: How would you have executed that withdrawal that was negotiated by Trump? Helicopters off the roof of the US Embassy? Like the retreat from Chosin? Mao's Long March? Or would you have emulated Leonidas at Thermopylae? There was no good option and no way to control every nasty variable. If you want someone to blame for those soldiers deaths blame George W. Bush and yourself if you voted for him. I agree 100% that we NEVER should have gone all in on Afghanistan and 110% on Iraq. That said once we broke it we owned it and the Afghanistan conflict had settled in to a low intensity conflict with minimal casualties. As long as we had the backs of the ANA things were in a stalemate. Women could work and be educated and things were fairly stable. It could have been managed like Korea. Edited September 14, 2024 by brenthutch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,447 #30 September 14, 2024 22 minutes ago, brenthutch said: As long as we had the backs of the ANA things were in a stalemate. Women could work and be educated and things were fairly stable. It could have been managed like Korea. So then Biden just says "ha ha fooled you, Trump's treaty is worthless and I'm going to do whatever I want." That'd go over big. Wendy P. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lippy 918 #31 September 14, 2024 10 minutes ago, wmw999 said: That'd go over big Bigly, even Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,192 #32 September 14, 2024 1 hour ago, wmw999 said: So then Biden just says "ha ha fooled you, Trump's treaty is worthless and I'm going to do whatever I want." That'd go over big. Wendy P. Isn’t that what happened to the Iran deal? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,720 #33 September 14, 2024 2 hours ago, brenthutch said: I agree 100% that we NEVER should have gone all in on Afghanistan and 110% on Iraq. That said once we broke it we owned it and the Afghanistan conflict had settled in to a low intensity conflict with minimal casualties. As long as we had the backs of the ANA things were in a stalemate. Women could work and be educated and things were fairly stable. It could have been managed like Korea. That's ridiculous. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,489 #34 September 14, 2024 5 hours ago, brenthutch said: I only relay what the NOAA reports. That is also a lie. 5 hours ago, brenthutch said: and guess what? There was no KABOOM See? The NOAA didn’t say that, you did. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,489 #35 September 14, 2024 5 hours ago, brenthutch said: What part of “As far as inflation is concerned the I agree that supply chain disruptions were a contributing factor.” The bit where it doesn’t stop you blaming it all on the democrats over and over and over again. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,489 #36 September 14, 2024 4 hours ago, brenthutch said: things were fairly stable. It could have been managed like Korea. So Trump fucked it up and emboldened Putin, then? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 444 #37 September 14, 2024 6 hours ago, jakee said: The bit where it doesn’t stop you blaming it all on the democrats over and over and over again. We could have done little with regard to the supply chain issues, we could have avoided the trillion dollar money party, passed solely by Democrats over bipartisan opposition. So yeah, the Ds own inflation. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,720 #38 September 14, 2024 3 hours ago, brenthutch said: We could have done little with regard to the supply chain issues, we could have avoided the trillion dollar money party, passed solely by Democrats over bipartisan opposition. So yeah, the Ds own inflation. They own that portion of inflation that can reasonably be attributed to the stimulus, maybe 30% depending on whose lies you believe. But then they also own any societal benefits that can be attributed to the stimulus. No matter, it is apparently the case that our increasing national debt is as salubrious, at least until those nasty economic feed back loops kick in, as increasing levels of CO2: more food, more jobs, higher wages and so on. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 444 #39 September 15, 2024 9 hours ago, JoeWeber said: They own that portion of inflation that can reasonably be attributed to the stimulus, maybe 30% depending on whose lies you believe. But then they also own any societal benefits that can be attributed to the stimulus. No matter, it is apparently the case that our increasing national debt is as salubrious, at least until those nasty economic feed back loops kick in, as increasing levels of CO2: more food, more jobs, higher wages and so on. Not when our deficit exceeds our GDP. At least that is what the head of the Fed said. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,720 #40 September 15, 2024 52 minutes ago, brenthutch said: Not when our deficit exceeds our GDP. At least that is what the head of the Fed said. Please direct my attention to where Jerome Powell stated that my positions were false. Not yours, mine. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,489 #41 September 15, 2024 4 hours ago, brenthutch said: Not when our deficit exceeds our GDP. At least that is what the head of the Fed said. The deficit last year was about 6% of GDP, so what are you moaning about? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
olofscience 480 #42 September 15, 2024 On 9/14/2024 at 1:22 AM, brenthutch said: did you not comprehend? Not to mention our disastrous withdrawal from Afghanistan revealed weakness in the Biden administration and emboldened Putin. Did you see Trump in 2018 in Helsinki? He was practically Putin's quivering simp Same with Xi Jinping's visit You're just parroting Trump's claims. No, Putin was hoping for Trump to win in 2020, but as soon as he lost because of his COVID stupidity, Putin started building up his forces at the Ukrainian border because his asset Trump couldn't blackmail/abandon them any more. If Putin captured Kyiv in 3 days, as he thought he could, it wouldn't have mattered whether or not Biden supported Ukraine. From Wikipedia: Quote In March and April 2021, prior to the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine, the Russian Armed Forces began massing thousands of personnel and military equipment near Russia's border with Ukraine The Afghanistan withdrawal started in May 2021. The Taliban seized Kabul in August 2021. Putin couldn't have known in March or April how disastrous the Afghan withdrawal, negotiated by Trump, would be. Despite your military experience I'm not surprised, you were probably just like that dog photo you keep posting - attacking mindlessly. It's OK though - even in the military, everybody has a different job to do, and the thinking job clearly wasn't yours. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 444 #43 September 15, 2024 (edited) 8 hours ago, jakee said: The deficit last year was about 6% of GDP, so what are you moaning about? I meant to say, the growth of GDP. When the debt growth outpaces economic growth, it is unsustainable. Edited September 15, 2024 by brenthutch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,720 #44 September 15, 2024 12 minutes ago, brenthutch said: I meant to say, the growth of GDP. When the debt growth outpaces economic growth, it is unsustainable. This isn't like your etch-a-sketch; what you write here lives on. You don't need to remanufacture truths and self justify anything anymore: just vote Trump and sleep soundly. Biden caused world inflation and Covid, the Afghanistan war from start to awful finish is Biden's fault, Harris is a giggling idiot, whatever gays are doing to you won't stop without republican intervention, and you need a closet full of the kid killers gun of choice for when the transgender medical police come for your children. And to top it off, the world economy will blow momentarily but not until we get a rare historical two-fer: massive CO2 induced food production which, oddly, has failed to lower prices as some would predict and runaway world hunger that goes uncured because in turns out that corporate interests really don't give a fuck. And again it is all caused by that scheming, but still a dumb ass, Biden and his bobble headed marionette. No worries, you're good. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,489 #45 September 15, 2024 2 hours ago, brenthutch said: I meant to say, the growth of GDP. When the debt growth outpaces economic growth, it is unsustainable. And what is the magical reason why this caveat does not apply to Trump's presidency? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,192 #46 September 15, 2024 2 hours ago, JoeWeber said: This isn't like your etch-a-sketch; what you write here lives on. You don't need to remanufacture truths and self justify anything anymore: just vote Trump and sleep soundly. Biden caused world inflation and Covid, the Afghanistan war from start to awful finish is Biden's fault, Harris is a giggling idiot, whatever gays are doing to you won't stop without republican intervention, and you need a closet full of the kid killers gun of choice for when the transgender medical police come for your children. And to top it off, the world economy will blow momentarily but not until we get a rare historical two-fer: massive CO2 induced food production which, oddly, has failed to lower prices as some would predict and runaway world hunger that goes uncured because in turns out that corporate interests really don't give a fuck. And again it is all caused by that scheming, but still a dumb ass, Biden and his bobble headed marionette. No worries, you're good. Now you’re getting it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,991 #47 September 15, 2024 2 hours ago, JoeWeber said: This isn't like your etch-a-sketch; what you write here lives on. You don't need to remanufacture truths and self justify anything anymore: just vote Trump and sleep soundly. Biden caused world inflation and Covid, the Afghanistan war from start to awful finish is Biden's fault, Harris is a giggling idiot, whatever gays are doing to you won't stop without republican intervention, and you need a closet full of the kid killers gun of choice for when the transgender medical police come for your children. And to top it off, the world economy will blow momentarily but not until we get a rare historical two-fer: massive CO2 induced food production which, oddly, has failed to lower prices as some would predict and runaway world hunger that goes uncured because in turns out that corporate interests really don't give a fuck. And again it is all caused by that scheming, but still a dumb ass, Biden and his bobble headed marionette. No worries, you're good. You forgot to mention Obama, DEI, critical race theory and the female cartoon M+M character that now has sneakers instead of high heels because woke. Other than that, spot on. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,447 #48 September 16, 2024 On 9/13/2024 at 8:22 PM, brenthutch said: What part of “As far as inflation is concerned the I agree that supply chain disruptions were a contributing factor.” did you not comprehend? Not to mention our disastrous withdrawal from Afghanistan revealed weakness in the Biden administration and emboldened Putin. The picture can construed as a personal attack. Your one warning. Wendy P. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #49 September 16, 2024 On 9/14/2024 at 7:07 PM, brenthutch said: Not when our deficit exceeds our GDP. At least that is what the head of the Fed said. Another one who doesn't understand the difference between deficit and debt, but is full of stories about how they know macro-economics, who is to blame for inflation and how they would fix it all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #50 September 16, 2024 On 9/15/2024 at 7:30 AM, brenthutch said: I meant to say, the growth of GDP. When the debt growth outpaces economic growth, it is unsustainable. If you are worried about that, why would you vote for Trump? Trump added more debt during his presidency than Biden will. Those tax cuts for rich people are expensive and they don't stimulate the economy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites