AndyMan 7 #26 January 17, 2006 Actually, two of my friends died in colisions. Only in one case was it aparently his fault. My third friend died when he stalled his canopy, causing line twists and a spinning malfunction at an altitude he thought was too low to cutaway. That's just in the last 2 years. None of them were impacts from a deliberate low turn. Skydiving is not safe. Don't kid yourself. _Am__ You put the fun in "funnel" - craichead. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndyMan 7 #27 January 17, 2006 Quote Im not saying its safe, all im saying is that many people percieve skydiving to be far more dangerous than it really is. Actually, the bigger problem is that too many new jumpers perceive skydiving to be far less dangerous than it really is. _Am__ You put the fun in "funnel" - craichead. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,452 #28 January 17, 2006 Quotein my opinion im in a hell of a lot more danger riding my bike to the DZ than I am actually jumping thereI both ride motorcycles and skydive, and with that statement, I sure don't want to ride with you . I'm going to suggest that you only know the safer face of skydiving; the one where everything works the way you planned it, and the winds are consistent, and the other jumpers predictable, and you're always calm. In real life, when things begin to get bad in skydiving, the thing that makes it dangerous is that you have a few seconds or you will die or be seriously injured in a number of different situations. And you can't practice them ahead of time that much. Sometimes you might want to listen before you figure you already know the answer. The folks talking to you have been jumping a lot -- maybe they've seen more situations where things didn't go as planned? Wendy W.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NelKel 0 #29 January 17, 2006 Most of these occur after a deliberate low turn.<<< Not totally true. Sometimes it happens trying to avoid an unforseen obstical._________________________________________ Someone dies, someone says how stupid, someone says it was avoidable, someone says how to avoid it, someone calls them an idiot, someone proposes rule chan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MooChooser 0 #30 January 17, 2006 Yes im a new jumper but ive been a pilot at Drop zones for a few years. At a guess id say ive flown maybe 1200 lifts in that time and had maybe 9000 people jump on them. Add onto that the other many thousands of decents made infront of me whilst other pilots were flying. Out of the whole bunch ive seen two injuries. One was a tandem passenger who put his feet down and broke an ankle and the other was me. I broke my ankle on AFF1. (expecting the manta to flare like an aircraft is what I put that down to.) If I make a conservative guess at a total of 15000 descents, that works out at about 1000 hours of airborn jumper time. If you want to include the climb to altitude and any injuries/deaths related to this, were looking at about 5000 hours of airborn jumper time. thats 2500 hours per broken bone. As a comparrison, ive ridden about 30000 miles at probably an average of 50mph. Thats 600 hours on the bike. Ive crashed it a fair few times but only broken myself once. Thats 600 hours per broken bone. Look at the figures here people, motorcycling is over 4 times more likely to cause a broken bone than skydiving. Seriously though, im only basing my opinion here on my own personal observations. Its just the way it seems to me. Obviously the dangers involved in skydiving vary hugely depending on where youre jumping, what canopy youre jumping, what kind of jump youre making etc. Some people are at a higher risk than others and its the same in everything. edited to add: QuoteI both ride motorcycles and skydive, and with that statement, I sure don't want to ride with you Dont assume the dangers of motorcycles are always because of the rider. Ive been hit by a car through absolutely no fault of my own and lost control on sand in a corner in the past. Im lucky to have escaped with my life let alone uninjured. Just because you dont agree with my point of view shouldnt mean that you need to insult my riding skills which, may I add, are highly developed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MooChooser 0 #31 January 17, 2006 QuoteMost of these occur after a deliberate low turn.<<< Not totally true. Sometimes it happens trying to avoid an unforseen obstical. I know, thats why I used the word most. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,452 #32 January 17, 2006 All I'm saying is that if riding motorcycles with you is more dangerous than skydiving with you, I'd rather not ride motorcycles with you. No matter what the reason -- could be where you ride. I have no doubt that you're a lot more experienced riding. Wendy W.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MooChooser 0 #33 January 17, 2006 My reply was toungue in cheek. You are aware though that an accident that would be nothing more than a pain in the ass in a car can be fatal on a motorcycle right? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
