billvon 3,070 #1 Posted October 17, 2024 So apparently I am an "enemy from within." According to Trump, the left is "weaponizing elections" like they did in 2020 by not electing him president. This is due to the "enemy from within" the US who won't vote for him. His words: "I think the bigger problem are the people from within,. We have some very bad people. We have some sick people, radical left lunatics. And I think it should be very easily handled by, if necessary, by National Guard or, if really necessary, by the military, because they can’t let that happen." And of course that echoes the rhetoric of another historical figure, who said that "never in our history have we been conquered by the strength of our outside enemies but only through our own failings and the enemy in our own camp." I am proud to be considered enemies by both of them. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #2 October 17, 2024 Heather Cox Richardson talked about this in her Oct 13 letter, and referenced a book by Eric Hoffer. I read this book long ago and consider it possibly the most important book I ever read for understanding how autocrats operate: Heather Cox Richardson: Letters from an American - October 13, 2024 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tkhayes 348 #3 October 17, 2024 1 hour ago, billvon said: So apparently I am an "enemy from within." According to Trump, the left is "weaponizing elections" like they did in 2020 by not electing him president. This is due to the "enemy from within" the US who won't vote for him. His words: "I think the bigger problem are the people from within,. We have some very bad people. We have some sick people, radical left lunatics. And I think it should be very easily handled by, if necessary, by National Guard or, if really necessary, by the military, because they can’t let that happen." And of course that echoes the rhetoric of another historical figure, who said that "never in our history have we been conquered by the strength of our outside enemies but only through our own failings and the enemy in our own camp." I am proud to be considered enemies by both of them. Governor Youngkin spars on CNN over controversial Trump 'enemy within' comments | 13newsnow.com Youngkin making excuses for it. Fuck all of them. If you are defending this in any way shape or form, you are a sad excuse for an American. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,249 #4 October 17, 2024 You are either for us or against us. Sound familiar? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billeisele 130 #5 October 21, 2024 Analogous to Clintons statement, as reported by Time magazine, that half of Trump supporters belong in a basket of deplorables. Both are unacceptable statements. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 851 #6 October 21, 2024 12 minutes ago, billeisele said: Analogous to Clintons statement, as reported by Time magazine, that half of Trump supporters belong in a basket of deplorables. Both are unacceptable statements. Both are accurate statements. Hillary was right. About every thing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 1,149 #7 October 21, 2024 14 minutes ago, billeisele said: Analogous to Clintons statement, as reported by Time magazine, that half of Trump supporters belong in a basket of deplorables. Both are unacceptable statements. Just now, normiss said: Both are accurate statements. Hillary was right. About every thing. Other than if you don't support me you're an enemy. As compared to being a deplorable person. Other than everyone is an enemy v. 1/2 of trump supporters. Other than trump wants to use the state to punish his enemies, v. there are constitutional rights protecting individuals from the actions of the state. But for trump supporters nuances don't exist. If you call lies, corruption, felony convictions, etc. nuances. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,249 #8 October 21, 2024 36 minutes ago, Phil1111 said: But for trump supporters nuances don't exist. If you call lies, corruption, felony convictions, etc. nuances. They all have to find some way to justify what they must know is an immoral posistion. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,523 #9 October 21, 2024 2 hours ago, billeisele said: Analogous to Clintons statement, as reported by Time magazine, that half of Trump supporters belong in a basket of deplorables. Both are unacceptable statements. How is calling Trump supporters 'Deplorables' unacceptable? It was those people who tried to run a Biden campaign bus off the road in Texas. The sheriff who didn't respond to calls for help settled a lawsuit. The participants are facing one. It was those people who made death threats against the poll workers Trumpty Dumpty and his minions claimed falsified ballots. Giuliani lost a large lawsuit over that. And it was 'baskets of deplorables' who stormed the Capitol on Jan 6. What in those people's (and a LOT of others) behavior doesn't constitute 'deplorable'? It's one thing to point out behaviors that are not acceptable. It's 'a whole 'nother thing' to accuse people who don't agree with you of being 'enemies' and to threaten to send the military to kill them. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,563 #10 October 21, 2024 3 hours ago, billeisele said: Analogous to Clintons statement, as reported by Time magazine, that half of Trump supporters belong in a basket of deplorables. Both are unacceptable statements. In what way exactly is that analogous to Trump threatening to deploy the army against his domestic political enemies? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,070 #11 October 21, 2024 3 hours ago, billeisele said: Analogous to Clintons statement, as reported by Time magazine, that half of Trump supporters belong in a basket of deplorables. Both are unacceptable statements. Skipping right to step 3! Something of a faux pas. 1) He didn't say that! 2) OK he said that but what he really meant was X. 3) Clinton did it first. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,106 #12 October 21, 2024 7 hours ago, billeisele said: Analogous to Clintons statement, as reported by Time magazine, that half of Trump supporters belong in a basket of deplorables. Both are unacceptable statements. She was correct, as it happens. Supporting a convicted criminal, a rapist, a fraud, a thief, an admitted sexual predator, a serial liar . . . . . IS deplorable. I hope you're not one of them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites