mattyblast 0 #1 January 9, 2006 My instructors don't do this with me anymore--just for the first 3 or 4 AFF levels. But I'm still curious. When I did AFF Level 1, it was a call-and-answer: Me: "CHECK IN!" JM1: "Check in!" Me: "CHECK OUT!" JM2: "Check out!" Me: "READY, SET Gooooaaaaaa......" When I came back for Level 2, it was like this: Me and JM1 together: "Check in!" Me and JM2 together: "Check out!" Me: "Ready, set gooooooo..." So just out of curiosity, which way is the standard? Or is it different for every DZ or even for every JM? (I did a search, and every result pertained to gear checks. :)"DOOR!!!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scoop 0 #2 January 9, 2006 Whilst having 2 instructors mine was... Q - Are you ready to skydive? A - I was born ready! Check in check in Check out check out Up, down, ARCH! Was funny, a bit of humour and also pumps you up a little bit. Now I only do a count (up, down arch) if someone else is coming with me like camera flyer Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mattyblast 0 #3 January 9, 2006 But what would you say if your name wasn't "Arch"? *ducks flying student ripcords*"DOOR!!!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reginald 0 #4 January 9, 2006 Try looking for “hotel check”. It is a pretty standard term/technique used in AFF for two jumpmaster dives. The specifics of the response are not particularly important, just an affirmative response. I’ve been doing a lot of AFF jumps being the outside instructor on an Otter recently. I’m hanging outside of the plane in the wind so the student probably won’t hear me if I say anything. I let the students know on the ground that I will lean over and make eye contact with them and nod."We've been looking for the enemy for some time now. We've finally found him. We're surrounded. That simplifies things." CP Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,990 #5 January 9, 2006 We did: Check out - OK! Check in - OK! Ready - set - go. The details vary from DZ to DZ. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yamtx73 0 #6 January 9, 2006 QuoteWe did: Check out - OK! Check in - OK! Ready - set - go. The details vary from DZ to DZ. This is the way I learned it. Although I think on my first jump it went more like: Check in - OK! Check out - OK! Ready - set - oh shitttttttttttttttttttttttThe only naturals in this sport shit thru feathers... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nate_1979 9 #7 January 10, 2006 We just did "Check In" "Check Out" "Prop" <--- exit dont remember any feedback from the instructors. FGF #??? I miss the sky... There are 10 types of people in the world... those who understand binary and those who don't. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GravityGirl 0 #8 January 10, 2006 My favorite student climbed out and turned to JM1 and said, "FUCK YOU". JM1 replyed, "OKAY", turned to JM2 and said "FUCK YOU". JM2 replyed, "OKAY". Ready, set fuuuuucckkkk! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Peace and Blue Skies! Bonnie ==>Gravity Gear! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mattyblast 0 #9 January 10, 2006 That has to be the loudest I have ever laughed at 6:45am! "DOOR!!!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydiverjerry 0 #10 January 10, 2006 i use all the variations u can think of anything to relax the student/ eg. student called uda (his real name) shouts check in i shout who da man replu u daman outside reply is no UDA MAN! any pulsed controled exit count will worklife is a journey not to arrive at the grave in a pristine condition but to skid in sideways kicking and screaming, shouting "fuck me what a ride!. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 30 #11 January 10, 2006 we tended ti use more relaxing steps. The Reserve side would go outside and motion to the sutend to set up in the door, then once set up, he looks inside and gets a nod from the Main side, deep breath, down, and out. No yelling, no extra tensing up.Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Devious 0 #12 January 10, 2006 QuoteMy favorite student climbed out and turned to JM1 and said, "FUCK YOU". JM1 replyed, "OKAY", turned to JM2 and said "FUCK YOU". JM2 replyed, "OKAY". Ready, set fuuuuucckkkk! That is the funniest thing I have heard today. -------------------------------------------------- May the skys be blue, but never your balls!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydiverjerry 0 #13 January 11, 2006 exactly the object of the exercise is to adapt and adopt a suitable training method. no one way is right, if it helps relax use it,life is a journey not to arrive at the grave in a pristine condition but to skid in sideways kicking and screaming, shouting "fuck me what a ride!. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 30 #14 January 11, 2006 god I cant type..... Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bmcd308 0 #15 January 11, 2006 I witnessed an AFF do CHECKING IN exit. I heard the cursing of the exiting main side JM from inside the plane (KA, so main side was inside during the debacle, which actually wound up going smoothly). ---------------------------------- www.jumpelvis.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AFFI 0 #16 January 12, 2006 Quotegod I cant type..... Try using a word processor like Word that automatically gives spelling and grammer errors then copy/paste. Huked un punix rully wurkd fer me.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 643 #17 January 12, 2006 Quotewe tended to use more relaxing steps. The Reserve side would go outside and motion to the student to set up in the door, then once set up, he looks inside and gets a nod from the Main side, deep breath, down, and out. No yelling, no extra tensing up. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Agreed. We use a similar exit count in Pitt Meadows. outboard instructor: "Are you ready to skydive?" student: "Yes!" outboard instructor: "Follow me out" Once outside the student looks at the inboard instructor, who nods "Okay!" student looks forward, takes a deep breath, looks forward, rocks back (towards tail of airplane), rocks towards propeller and launches sideways. Rocking is done at the same pace as the earlier breath, so that instructors can see and feel a rhythm. We find the fewer words, the better. As to whether a shouted 'challenge and response' is better ... it depends which student you get. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #18 January 12, 2006 A littel off-topic but related... 1977..static line training…T-10s so spotting was a major issue. There were 4 of us in the training course with my brother as JM. He strongly emphasized to us the importance of getting out the door when he said GO. First jump I was second in line out of the C47. Brother spotting…looking...gives direction to Pilot “5 Left!” First guy left the plane. Of course he landed way off. We called him “Lefty” forever after.My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 30 #19 January 12, 2006 QuoteI witnessed an AFF do CHECKING IN exit. I heard the cursing of the exiting main side JM from inside the plane (KA, so main side was inside during the debacle, which actually wound up going smoothly). Thats par for the course! I havent done tons of AFF jumps, but, you'll get the whole gammit of timing issues from falling off as soon as they are in the door, to hesitating after doing whatever count is agreed to.Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
daniel_owen_uk 0 #20 January 12, 2006 Have done AFF1 twice (because of currency not cause I suck ). Did it at two places Hib in Uk and Zhills in Florida. Hib taugh; Check In "OK" Check Out "OK" Up Down Arch Zhills taugh; Check In "OK" Check Out "OK" Out In Arch All actions were clear and done with nods (at both DZs) as you probably aware, "Ready Set Go" sound very much like "I don't want to Go" Only reason for difference was because of door size on plane (was sat at hib).__________________ BOOM Headshot Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Silverchic 0 #21 January 12, 2006 We did: Check in - ok from JM Horizon Up Down ARCH! And I found on the weekend when I'm doing a solo standard exit like that I STILL say to myself horizon, up, down ARCH! Sad isn't it? How is it that we put man on the moon before we figured out it would be a good idea to put wheels on luggage? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jumpah 0 #22 January 13, 2006 The fine AFF instructors at Skydive New England taught the following for the twin otter: Check in Check out Prop Out In Out Arch Arch Arch Arch.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
superman0710 0 #23 January 14, 2006 "Check In" OK! "Propeller!" "Ready, Set, LET'S FUCKING DO ITTTTTTTtttttttt!!!!!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Johnsisland 0 #24 January 14, 2006 QuoteQuoteWe did: Pretty funny, and very similar to what I did. I was on static line for my first jump, and I didn't have any problem out on the step-even though I am usually thought of as scared of heights. However, after I stepped off the plane, and I was in my few seconds of falling, I was thinking, Oh S**T, I am falling. I really laugh when I think of that now, I mean what did I think I was going to do? Not fall? I heard a story of a lady who worked as a labor and delivery nurse for quite some time, then had her first child. I heard something to the effect of wow, her delivery was work, painful, or something like that and I thought, well what did you think? You had seen a few babies being delivered before, right? Back to me, Scared Of Heights...maybe the falling part was not something I had thought about...I had thought about being on the outside of the plane, and wondering (hoping) that I wouldn't lock my hands on the strut. Thought about being on the step, but not the falling part? Who knows...but my thought of "Oh S**T, I am falling" is soooooooo funny to me. Blue skies, Jeff This is the way I learned it. Although I think on my first jump it went more like: Check in - OK! Check out - OK! Ready - set - oh shitttttttttttttttttttttttArch? I can arch just fine with my back to the ground. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites yamtx73 0 #25 January 14, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuoteWe did: Pretty funny, and very similar to what I did. I was on static line for my first jump, and I didn't have any problem out on the step-even though I am usually thought of as scared of heights. However, after I stepped off the plane, and I was in my few seconds of falling, I was thinking, Oh S**T, I am falling. I really laugh when I think of that now, I mean what did I think I was going to do? Not fall? I heard a story of a lady who worked as a labor and delivery nurse for quite some time, then had her first child. I heard something to the effect of wow, her delivery was work, painful, or something like that and I thought, well what did you think? You had seen a few babies being delivered before, right? Back to me, Scared Of Heights...maybe the falling part was not something I had thought about...I had thought about being on the outside of the plane, and wondering (hoping) that I wouldn't lock my hands on the strut. Thought about being on the step, but not the falling part? Who knows...but my thought of "Oh S**T, I am falling" is soooooooo funny to me. Blue skies, Jeff This is the way I learned it. Although I think on my first jump it went more like: Check in - OK! Check out - OK! Ready - set - oh shittttttttttttttttttttttt Actually I'm surprised the 'oh shit' response isn't more common.The only naturals in this sport shit thru feathers... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0 Go To Topic Listing
yamtx73 0 #25 January 14, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuoteWe did: Pretty funny, and very similar to what I did. I was on static line for my first jump, and I didn't have any problem out on the step-even though I am usually thought of as scared of heights. However, after I stepped off the plane, and I was in my few seconds of falling, I was thinking, Oh S**T, I am falling. I really laugh when I think of that now, I mean what did I think I was going to do? Not fall? I heard a story of a lady who worked as a labor and delivery nurse for quite some time, then had her first child. I heard something to the effect of wow, her delivery was work, painful, or something like that and I thought, well what did you think? You had seen a few babies being delivered before, right? Back to me, Scared Of Heights...maybe the falling part was not something I had thought about...I had thought about being on the outside of the plane, and wondering (hoping) that I wouldn't lock my hands on the strut. Thought about being on the step, but not the falling part? Who knows...but my thought of "Oh S**T, I am falling" is soooooooo funny to me. Blue skies, Jeff This is the way I learned it. Although I think on my first jump it went more like: Check in - OK! Check out - OK! Ready - set - oh shittttttttttttttttttttttt Actually I'm surprised the 'oh shit' response isn't more common.The only naturals in this sport shit thru feathers... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0